Bwah??!! The c90p is for sale on gentech!

http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=C90P&Category_Code=

This...that was a fastball personally. The mxm is type II so if this get's any GPU upgrades, us c90s might get them as well. Yummy. The only card offered though is the 8600m GT DDR3....

 

Interesting turn of events...

 

yeah, I've saw it a couple of daze ago.....nothing that wowed me though...hope it ushers in some kind of an upgrade

 

Yeah, it would be nice to have upgrades. At least the GPU so I can replace my 8600 when it dies. I'm guessing the 8600 in the C90P is not going to be defective like the ones available for the C90S

 

C90P is not what we wanted sorry guys. Thats why it sort of came in unannounced. Does not even have the PM45 chipset like promised, let alone gpu upgrades. I was told the 8600gt is the highest card.

Im not sure the PM35 even supports 4gb of ram.

Best to move on to the G50 or G71 or something along those lines if you can.

 

I heard The 8700m gt was the highest, not that much better but still at least an upgrade, and the chipset supports 4gbs 800mhz ram. still not some crazy upgrade worth getting a whole new computer for. Pisses me off that they made a c90p with such minimum upgrades. I would think a "custom built gaming laptop with desktop CPU" would at least use 9 series cards.

G50 would be my choice for sure if i were to get a new laptop

 

its also on sale on excaliberpc.com.... one year wait and we got the 8600gt gddr3. lol. at least we got somethin....

 

Haha, this, imo, was just a total waste of engineering manpower. I don't think any of the c90s fans are going to get this. ever. Might buy the copper heatsinks if they fit, but that's about it.

 

I got that card one year ago.....time to move on, but I'm keeping the S....

 

When did they promiss the P45 chipset, as far as I can remember its always been the P35. I remember that there were even comments about the P35 when the C90P was first announced. As for the video card Asus is screwing the pooch, I'm calling Gentech and Asus first thing Monday morning...mainly for the video car, but also inquiring about a C90P mobo.

Thanx for the link, this is from Jan8:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/510/5

Yes the P35 supports 4GB ram and it was one of the first chipsets to support the 45nm chips, its reliable and would of been the alternative to my x38 for my desktop. The P35 has been around for quite some time unlike the P45 which is fairly new.

 

Yeah, I mostly agree with what Ranger just said in ^ post.

EDIT: Oh yeah, there was an ATI card for the c90s, forgot what it was, but it wasn't put forth to the consumers (publicized) at all. If I find the link, I'll post it.

 

Was it the AMD 3650? I was looking it up last night and found out it was MXM-II as well... Was thinking of getting one as backup if the 8600 failed.

 

It could be, but I remember something about an ati 2600 xt or something. It'd be great, imo, if it were the 3650.

 

The only thing I saw in this version is the Processor Power and XP compability.

The C90s owners. Do you see other new extra feature/spec/port from in this version compare to yours?

 

Just the ability to use up to 4gb of RAM. They might have improved stuff like fan control, RAM compatibility, etc. but I doubt any of us are going to get one and be guinea pigs especially after the experience of the earlier adopters.

 

I would not get the C90P I like Asus, usually the have the best products for the $$$ but this cost to much for what you get and is not offering anything to keep up with other models like the G series, the C90P was and now still is mostly good for heavy CPU tasks.

But the 2.8ghz mobile cpu in the G50 (when in overclock mode) is almost just as fast within 5% I would say and uses so much less power and generates so much less heat.

I did the power draw tests for the C90S & the G50V and it was crazy how huge the difference was, its actually possible to detach the electrical umbilical cord on the G50V and do things for awhile, and the time I notice it most is when packing up, the power brick is not hot on the G50V while the C90S was on the verge of nuclear meltdown.

On a separate note tho, moving from the C90S --> G50V-A1 it was not a huge gain.

The CPU is roughly equal
The Size is Bigger
Its much more "flashy"
The GPU IS better, but not hugly so, people had overclocked the 8600GT to nearly the same level the 9700GT is at stock, and for now nobody has managed to overclock the 9700GT.
Double HDD is super nice, double the space and option for raid.
4gb ram vs 3gb is nice also but no noticeable performance differences (thank god no memory computability issues tho)

If you were a non owner and were buying one or the other, definitely the G50V is better but if you own the C90S the cost to upgrade probably is not worth it (depending on your budget/needs and how much you can sell the C90S for)

 

Im also not sure, but while searching thru ebay, i found this :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-AMD-HD-3650...9060831QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116


Anyone know if this is compatible with the c90s ? this could be a very good option especially to those who are cautious of the nvidia problem...

 

Hehe, that's what I was looking at too. I'd probably buy it in an instant if it were compatible.

 

Wow, huge FAIL, and I didn't see this coming.

With the C90P I was at least expecting a 9700GT to fit into the MXM-II slot, with only the 8600 GT DDR3 (remind you, some of us lucky ones had them). This doesn't even classify as an upgrade compared to the C90S in my opinion. With only the chipset upgraded to the P35, but still limited to 3.16Ghz(from what I can tell), there's not a huge difference compared to the previous Conroe C2Ds at the same speed. In other words, little to no gain in performance compared to the C90S.

I'm glad I moved to my F8, and I'm sure Vicious is also glad he moved to the G50V instead. Which are both better performers compared to the c90P. My F8 does 4600 on 3Dmark06, not a great number and likely might edge out the 8600GT DDR3 by a tiny bit. Considering that it's substantially smaller and more portable than the C90P, its a win. I also have an x9000 in my F8, and it can do 3.08Ghz overclocked via SetFSB, so I'm not loosing out on the processor power either, and overall it's a lot cooler and quieter.

 

It's not worth it to me to get a new laptop for little gain. It is worth it to me to get a better videocard for better gain. I won't be getting rid of my c90s until two things happen. Battlefield 3 comes out or the c90s craps out on me.

I'm not a big gamer, but I'm a huge Battlefield fan. Using this laptop is fine, but I would like Asus to hold up their end of the deal and get us some new cards that are worth a ****.

 

Just got off the phone with Asus, the C90S is dead to me and I will never consider the C90P. The S and P are treated like separate notebooks, hence C90P part are not supported in the C90S, like say the video card, because of firmware and bios issues. As far as I care that the last straw, the camel is laying on its side unable to feel its little camel toes, twitching. Bye, bye Asus. It was not a pleasant time knowing you.

 

thats it ? an empty promise and we can do nothin about it. Lifes not fair. lol.

 

Wow, life is not fair indeed. I'm going to just keep my c90s until it craps out on me entirely. *sigh*

 

Same here. I'll just keep mine until it's dead then switch back to desktops for anything but light gaming.

 

c90p is the same thing with a new chipset. the new chipset does offer some things that the c90s was not capable off. like 4gb of ram. Other then that the whole asus barebone business was and is still a complete failure. I dont know why they brought this back from the dead. it is not even worth the money they are trying to charge for it. we will not be adding this to our catalog. Oficially asus has stated they will no longer make any barebones. I guess they had some parts left over and figured "what the heck lets try to sell this garbage to some poor sap"

 

Hi Eddie I still have a 2 year warranty with you

I filed a official complaint with Asus, plus looking into any wrong doings on their part with the upgradeability claims.

 

well if they have some spare parts they should sell me that new motherboard so i can at least upgrade something haha.

 

Hey, Ranger, if you need more complaints filed in towards Asus, or heck, even just to make a petition for something, let us know.

 

I agree....think I'll go with a Sager 9262 with a single 9800 GT and Quad CPU for now....I KNOW I can upgrade to SLI down the road with this one....

 

Im building a desktop next time, you can basically always upgrade them and they are just sooo much faster. I thought i needed a notebook for school and everything but turns out I would be fine with a desktop and a cheap notebook.

 

can you get the sager 9262 barebone and use the e6600 and 3gig of memory from the c90s?

 

Anyone on this?

 

Yeah you can buy the clevo D901C barebone (its the same computer) with just the GPU. Its pricey as hell though.
http://www.rjtech.com/miva/merchant...Code=R&Product_Code=D901C&Category_Code=CLEVO

 

is it backwards compatible with the e6600 cpu ?

 

Yeah it is
http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo_2.asp?productid=19

Well actually I think it is? Im a little confused now because rjtech shows that you can equip the newer cpu's and clevos site says that it uses Conroe, so ???

 

Well heck..maybe it's time for a phone call ....great concept !!

 

So if Asus is completely scrapping their "barebones" program, that pretty much means that the highest card that the C90P will get as well is going to be the 8600m GT DDR3 version, right? And if that happens, then there's nothing at all for the c90s now.

Hum....we all got screwed in totality by this.

 

You know though, I never really expected anything anyway really....figured I'd buy a new laptop before then anyway. But yes, screwed in totality.

 

Don't give up hope just yet! Trust me!!

 

Some insider info eh?