C90S QVL lists 5 MXM VGA Cards

http://www.asus.com/999/download/products/1641/1641_10.pdf

The product numbers are vague, but it does list 5 MXM VGA Cards, one being ATI.

So one is ATI, but here is what confuses me. The ASUS website says you can use a 256mb 8600M GT, and a 512mb 8600M GT, but many resellers are listing th options as 8600 512mb and 8500 256mb and such.

So, an ATI card, at least two NVIDIA cards, possibly three if 8500 is different form 8600, But then what are the last one or two? I'm guessing the NV / C473 and NV / P555 are the 256mb and 512mb ones we know about, and the rest are upcoming ones we don't. Here's to hoping 8700M and 8800M!

 

The ATI is a 2600 HD 512MB that Asus already has shown
Hopefully one of those NV will include the lowest model of NB8E. Maybe NB8E-SE.
There is most likely no chance of NB8E-GTX or NB8E-GT being one them as both are above 25W thermal.

 

Nice find. As to the 8800 heres to hopin!!

 

Yay CMO screen!

 

Awesome find! I wonder what the difference in the cameras is?

EDIT: I wanted to rep you up twice, once for the link and another for publicising project offset, but the forums will only let me do once a day =P

 

Doesn't the 8700m use MXM IV?

 

I wanted to wait untill you could buy the ATI card I have a feeling that the 2600xt will be stronger than the 8600gt. or atleast offer better performance on heat/power use or overclocking due to its 65nm process.

I gave in and will buy now with the 8600gt tho.

 

I'm amazed no one saw this earlier. I had known it was there for a while, but had forgoten to post it. I'm going to go ahead and guess:

8500/8600 256mb
8600M GT 512mb
8700M GT
8800M GS
HD2600

Great array of selections for a brand-new concept. Looks like ASUS is making them all too. I hope when people start getting their C90Ss, the drivers will reveal more.

 

well originally they were planning for 8500, 8600gt 256, 8600gt 512, 8600gs 256/512. there there are 4 or 5. you guys are reading to much into this. dont hope too much. asus may let you down and any other c90 buyer hoping for a super future upgrade. If an upgrade past 8600 comes out it may bee at a time when it is already too little and too late and inpractical. honestly i dont know, but i am sceptical for reasons that may be flawed due to changing times where my exprience may not apply any more. i am not a psychic but i just wanted to warn anyone hoping for an 8800 in their c90s. dont get your hopes up

 

Well, I'm not even considering a purchase until much later this year. How come there isn't any "8500" anything on the NVIDIA website? I guess Asus are also like the only ones with Go 7700, and that doesn't even have a GT or GS or anything with it, so maybe they just make up names? I dunno.

I hope, if anything, DIY notebook GPUs catches on. I still doubt Asus will go over mid-range. They talk like the 8600M GT is the ultimate best thing ever, and they never had anything higher than 7700 last generation. But I really hope the new standard at least gets sold by other companies.

 

atm 8600 is the best mobile card. mobile and dtr are very different. a dtr can have higher then 7700. 7700 was the last and best MOBILE out. Now 8600 is and i am pretty sure that will be refreshed to 8700. Not too sure what the last mobile model to be released by nvidia but i think they will stick with the same denomination.

 

Funny thing is this is what milestone said. By January 2008 there should be 5 different cards available for the c90. So they were right about that part and they also said that an 8800 would come out for it. Need I say more?

 

just wandering who is milestone? can you send me a link to the info about th 8800 coming out for the c90

 

I have my doubts about the 8800 on the C90 except for a very choped down GS type version.

the 8600gt is at 22w, the C90 handles 25w max..

that only gives them 3w to work with for an upgrade from a 8600gt --> 8800m

Not much you can do with that, because the only difference between low side cards and high side cards are usually the ram and number of processors and the energy used to run them. Wich all equates into more heat.

You cant just plop a 8800 in there and magically have it perform better than the 8600gt with the same thermal disipation.

There is only one logical solution, and thats a die shrink. The 8600gt is built on the 80nm process. While some other cards like the 2600 are built on the newer 65nm process.

If they do a shrink on the 8 series, they can then get the same performance out of the card but it will use less power and also produce less heat. Its enough to definitly show, but not enough to make a huge jump from a 8600gt into a 8800gt type of performance and only gain at max 3w of power. But a 8800gs low end version is very possibly within reach.

Even just a refresh of the 8600gt on 65nm would be great as it will allow you to overclock it much more. This would be better for us probably. Save us some money and I have a feeling that a 8800gs would be a flop and nvidia wont do it because everybody wants the top end performance card like the 8800gtx and thats just not going to happen in a MXMII module. If they do come out with it, its going to be a bigger/hotter card that will be in a diffrent notebook.

 

The NB8E is supposed to have a 22W power consumption, which leaves it in as a possibility for the C90.

 

Yeah I already read that, long time ago and in the thread it was mentioned in, I pretty much said the same. Its most definitly going to be like a "GS" type with low clocks and cut down on the number of processors.

Word is around now, be it rumor or not that the 8800m is not even going to see the light of day.

 

I agree with Eddie, don't buy this notebook if you want an 8800M, while it isn't impossible it IS highly improbable. I mean signs are looking decent, but don't be surprised if it is like the 8600GTX or 8650GT or something, which would still be sweet, but not an 8800 model. (I have to believe that of the two models not known, one of them has to be better than the stock ones. Otherwise calling it "upgradible" would be a bust.)

 

The way I see it, there are two possible explainations for the 8800M GS.

1) It's just the old intenal name for the 8700M GT.

2) It's a mobile version of the long-rumored 8600 Ultra, which is basically an 8600 GT with a 256-bit interface.

We've seen that the "8800M GS" is a G84 in leaked drivers, so that supports both theories.

Everyone, let's not forget that the graphics market move forwards in generations every year. You buy a C90 now, even though we may never see anythign higher than an 8600M GT in the GeForce 8 series, by this time next year, you'll probably be able to get a 9600M GT or something along those lines. But, I agree, that if their advertising upgradability, they're going to come out with SOMETHING better soon. 8650GT sounds fine to me.

 

Only problem with upgrading the C90 is that for sombody who already owns one with a 8600gt wich is 150-200$ needs a very significant upgrade to justify another card because it will be nearly impossible to sell the 8600gt because nobody will need/want it. Then you have to pay the price probably 200$+ for the new card.

Unlike selling old desktop cards (wich is already pretty hard...) not many people will be able to even use a MXMII card, and most that could will already have the 8600gt as it was the standard card at launch.

A better card will only really benifit those who wait to buy and get a c90 with no card in it. Just hope your best friend does somthing dumb and fries his 8600gt so you can sell yours for 1/2 price to him

Wich EVGA was in on this, they offer the step up program with there video cards. send in your old card and get full retial value for it twords purcase of a better card....

 

www.mxm-upgrade.com
They will buy em, for cheap, but they will buy them. Better than nothing.

 

I found more evidence of the C90S getting the 8700M GT.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2109259#post2109259

 

The C90 can not physically handle the 8700M. It is literally impossible. Now an actual 8800GS, may be a different story. If they made drivers for it, then that means they aren't using codenames for it any more.

 

No, I saw NB8P (8600M) in official Asus drivers long before 8600M release, so it's possible that this isn't the right name. If they're not the same thing, how else would you explain this:

NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0409.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GS"
NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0409.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT"

The first one is from a few month-old Asus driverm, and the second is from the recent Clevo ones. But here's the deal. Those opening numbers only mean what chip it is, not what card. This is why there are so many variations of desktop cards that can all fall under one name driver-wise. Even though the 8700M GT in the Clevo, who doesn't usually use 100% standard MXM cards, says MXM-III, the chip itself could end up on a MXM-II card and work in the C90S. I THINK. I don't know anything.

It just bothers me. This is ASUS's performance notebook. If it doesn't use the "NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0409.1", which one will?

 

I think the 8500 is what became the 8600 gs when it reached market.

 

Okay. Yeah, that fits. The Asus site says 8600M GT 256mb/512mb, and all the resellers say 8500 256mb and 8600 512mb. Okay, so that's two of the five, and of course the ATI one is Mobility HD 2600 XT. I think the other two NVIDIAs are 8600M GTS and 8700M GT. Anything else is too low, too high, or unheard of.