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    Can we install Battery Life Extender?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by reddd123, Jun 21, 2012.

  1. reddd123

    reddd123 Notebook Consultant

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    Samsung has the feature 'Battery Life Extender' is there another program where we can also have this feature where we only charge up to 80% instead of 100% so we can prolong the battery?

    I found the program but it isn't letting me install on my Asus zenbook because it requires a Samsung specific PC.

    So my question is there anyway for us to bypass the program or another program where we can get this awesome feature!?!?
     
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    reddd123 Notebook Consultant

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    bump!!! help me i already got 3% wear on my new ux31a only week old!
     
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    Battery charge limiters are dependent on the firmware of the notebook, and there aren't any for ASUS machines. :-/
     
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    I have read though your manual and it does not mention such a setting, does the Power4Gear Hybrid Utility have a setting have you looked.

    You will not know your battery`s wear level until you do a calibration, you fully charge your battery and then uses it until you get a battery low warning, then i boot into the bios and leave the notebook till it shuts itself down when the battery is empty, then wait 30mins for the battery to cool and then charge your notebook fully without tuning it on, then you can check the battery wear, but the wear level can go up or down, a calibrate will show you the true wear level.

    Normal under 10% wear in the first year is fine, if it goes over that get a replacment battery.

    John.
     
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    While there may not be one for Asus, there are alternatives. You can find software that will underclock/lower the voltage of your CPU, for example.

    A calibration (as mentioned by Tinderbox (UK)) is ideal in fully assessing your battery's wear, as well. Battery wear level indication will vary by a small margin as well, in any case.
     
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    I currently says I have a 3% battery wear, I have played maybe 2 hours of skyrim which heats it up to 70C-80C, but I will stop playing that! Currently the system runs at around 45C-50C when in battery saving mode either with or without it being plugged into the AC adapter, I also have a cooling pad which connects via usb port which cools it down like 3C, would it be wise to use it or no because it also uses the battery to cool it? Also is 3% wear normal for just over a week's use since I have received it? I will also perform a battery calibration in a few days.
     
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    Also up to what percentage should I charge it to before unplugging from the power? 80%? from all the way from 10 - 15%?
     
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    It's a tradeoff. USB powered devices really don't use much power, so the cooling might be worth it. The drain on the battery having it connected probably won't even be very noticeable, but it WILL drain it.
     
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    From about 10 - 15% when I do charge it, when should I take it out of the plug? At 80% like the Samsung? or fully charged?
     
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    You should be fine charging it to 100%. The most followed school of thought is that - as long as the unit manages electricity properly - then the battery does not immediately become "overcharged" while it's still receiving AC power at 100% (it should only receive a trickle charge at that point, to prevent excess strain on the capacitors).

    This guide might be of some use to you: BatteryCare - Proper laptop battery usage guide
     
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    Ok I will try that Prostar. Also I read somewhere if I do decide to play a videogame like skyrim on my zenbook prime, downloading a program which increases the fan speed to maximum will efficiently cool my laptop so it wouldn't heat up as much? What would be a temperature that is suitable that wouldn't harm the battery.

    I just deeply thought about it, was looking for cooling pads without usb to usb, but after deep thought! I took my phone charger and connected it to my cooling pad now it runs without the laptop, so I will always use the cooling pad now at home. I also see temperatures now stabling at 40C instead of more. But my wear level has now increased from 3% to 4%, haven't calibrated yet.
     
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    I don't know that this helps much if you can't get an add-on app to limit the charge on your Asus, but I will say that both of my Sony Z's and my Samsung 9 had such features built in as options and in 2 years my Z1 has 98% capacity and in 9 months my Z2 has 100% on both the internal and the sheet battery (which is always on). So I think there is something to this, but I don't know how you do it without having the software/firmware built in to do so. Worth looking for, though, if you lost 3% in such a short time. In the good old pre-ultrabook days you could just charge the battery to 80% and take it out until you need to run on battery again. I don't know how hard it is to get the battery out of your machine, but it's another approach, if a bit kludgey.
     
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    The battery is replaceable, it is easily taken out with a few screws here and there, but ASUS itself doesn't sell the battery, so I would have to purchase from a third party seller which would be love-battery.net or something like that and it is around $110 which is expensive! Also I do not know why my battery is now 4% wear, though I haven't calibrated yet, and will definitely charge it when Windows says it is low and charge to around 70 - 80% then unplug.

    Also I would of bought the Series 9 if it came with a 1080p screen, as it is also lighter, wouldn't mind paying the extra hundred or two hundred!
     
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    You can try that! Just remember that the increased fan speed will drain the battery slightly faster as well. I think you should weigh this decision on how hot your system gets when playing the game. If it gets to an unstable temperature (say, 90 degrees Celsius or more), then consider it. But if you're within the 70-80 range - maybe 85 tops - then you should be okay. :)

    Just be sure that your phone charger's output meets what the cooling pad normally requires from it's stock power source. If your charger puts out more power, it will probably damage the pad; if it's too little, well... it probably wouldn't run at all. Play it safe and double check.
     
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    Ahh I had this pad for over 2 years I think now? Plus only the fans would break they are removable from the laptop stand.

    Also I have a question, my advanced battery options keep resetting, I try to change power management to 30 - 40% minimum when unplugged and maximum to 60% when plugged in but it keeps on resetting back to 100%. I also clicked on the UAC (blue link or whatever above before changing).
     
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    Isn't Windows WONDERFUL? :p

    Try switching to a completely different profile, or make a new one, and then customize it. And your Windows is up to date, yes? (New updates were released earlier this week.)
     
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    Since your online Prostar, so if I am getting this right I should charge my battery up to 100% or 95% every time then unplug it and let it drain until Windows warns me to plug it back in on normal daily useage (like 10 - 15%)? I am doing a battery calibration right now still gotta run it down.
     
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    That's acceptable for battery calibration, but the full charge/full drain routine puts more strain on it if you do it on every cycle like you're mentioning. Generally, it's fine to discharge it some, then recharge it some, lather, rinse, repeat; then after x amount of cycles, fully drain it and fully charge it.

    The battery guide I posted on the previous page elaborates on this. :D
     
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    Okay cause I see the full battery capacity depleting a lot its still 4% but its increasing and will be 5% soon, I will charge up to 100% (Full Charged) the do the full battery calibration test. I don't think this is good!

    Ive decided to charge it back all way to 100% Fully Charged from 50% as before it wasn't fully charged, now doing the battery test.
     
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    OMG I just did the battery calibration where I charged it to fully 100% then discharged til 5% then I went into BIOS until it shut off and even tried pressing the power button numerous times to see if the battery is fully discharged and was, now charged all the way up and now it says my wear level is 5% from 4%!!!

    EDIT: it just dropped back to 4% HWMONITOR showing and HWNFO64 shows 3.4%

    EDIT: it now shows 3.3% on HWNFO64. Looks like HWMONITOR only shows to the whole number! Seems like it is going down, maybe I will just keep it plugged it as it idles and uses around 45C.

    EDIT: now 2.9% in HWNFO, seems like I am just keeping it plugged in and cooled
     
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    Sounds like it's okay, then. If it peaks at 5%, I think you're okay. If it jumps beyond that, and is consistent, then consider replacing it while it's under warranty.
     
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    Im currently just exercising the battery by letting it drop from 100% to about 80% the most, and then charging it back in until its fully charged and still leaving it in there, seems like the wear is going back down to 2.6% now the lowest I have seen.
    I seen it go from 2.9% to 3.0% before but now its down to 2.6%.

    EDIT: now it went up to like 3.7% wear. Damn what is going on with this battery first it goes down and now goes up, I have only exercised battery a couple times down to 80% and then charge it fully and kept it charged for about an hour or two the most a few times.
     
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    It was at 2.6% wear and it was plugged in all the time, then I took it out and drained it to about 75% and the wear went up to 5.2%. now I left it at 75% and turned it off now it says 4.6% wear. now I am charging it all the way back up and keeping it plugged in. Is this normal?