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    DDR2/DDR in Z71v

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Puggy, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. Puggy

    Puggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Even though this may sound like a dumb question to some... I've recently come to ponder whether or not the Z71v can support DDR(1) as well as DDR2.
    Before doing anything stupid, could somebody let me know if it's possible to put a DDR PC3200 sodimm stick into this notebook?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    Yes.... you can't mix and match (ddr1 and ddr2) and unless you already own the ddr, it doesn't make any sense to use it. I'd only use this if you're using a 400mhz dothan and not the new 533's.
     
  3. Puggy

    Puggy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Here's the issue at hand... I ordered my own barebone notebook as well as all the parts needed to be self-assembled. However, I have received everything except for the memory as there's a backorder for it.

    So now I'm stuck with this nice new laptop, which is inoperable because it doesn't have it's DDR2 PC2-4200 memory yet.
    But, I have another laptop in the house which has 2x256 PC3200 DDR sodimm sticks in it, and I'm thinking I could temporarily use one just to finally get to play with this thing.

    So to confirm what you said... I can or can't use 1 DDR stick in this notebook?
     
  4. smilepak

    smilepak Notebook Deity

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    Here is the issue....

    DDR and DDR2 are two different breed. Though they have the same pin, their voltage is different. Due to this the manufacturer will make the niche in the board in different location, preventing people from mistakenly put in DDR in the DDR2 slot, vice versa.

    In a DDR2 slot, most cases you could put in DDR2-3200 or DDR2-4200 in there. It is the intel chipset supporting that speed.

    On the Z71V, you have to use DDR2. You could either DDR2-3200 or DDR2-4200. You might be able to have one of each, but that will not be a good idea as you are forcing the faster one to go down to the speed of the slower one.

    Also, the DDR2-3200 will prevent you from using the faster dothan processor with 533 mhz bus speed.

    These days, the price between them are so small and often time zero. So it is better to get DDR2-4200. The benefit of the DDR2-3200 is the latency timing on it is better than the DDR2-4200.
     
  5. bugmenot

    bugmenot Notebook Evangelist

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    No, it won't. Unless ASUS has done something uniquely stupid when designing their models, the memory clock and FSB clock should be totally separate. The chipset is fully capable of running asynchronous memory clocks. You’ll loose some performance compared to an optimum configuration, that’s all. Memory bandwidth really isn’t the most limiting factor on the Sonoma-platform anyways.

    On the other hand I'd get 533MHz DDR2 also, if only because there's not a huge price difference these days.
     
  6. smilepak

    smilepak Notebook Deity

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    I think you're right. Oops. totally forgot about that one.

    I think the system will downclock itself on the memory so it wont kill the memory.
     
  7. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    You hit it right on the head smilepak.

    The other thing to consider is that to get the advantage of Dual Channel memory operation where the bandwidth is doubled (PC4200 goes to PC8400), you will need to use two pieces of memory. The memory itself is not "Dual Channel", it is just when you use two pieces, the Intel 915 chipset will then support the Dual Channel operation.

    We have Corsair VS PC4200 DDR2/533 memory in stock at http://www.powernotebooks.com/category.php?catId=3
     
  8. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    You cannot use ddr1 ram in the z71v. The modules arew different size and the older one will not even fit in there. DDr2 is about a mm longer or something like that. Forget about dual channel in centrino. It has as much kick to it as a turbo exaust on a honda civic.