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    Dell 1520 vs Asus V1S

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Xerxes, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    The V1S isn't out yet but it's assumed to be close to these settings. Much like how you can make a 1520 that's like the G1S already. The big thing about the V1S is the departure of the gaming tailorings for business class quality build. I was able to make the 1520 I would have wanted for $1700, cheaper when coupons hit. But Asus has caught my attention and I'm not sure. First laptop purchase jitters. Especially when you can get them the same with different specs.

    Basically, do you think the V1S will out quality the Dell offering? Why?
     
  2. taelrak

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    The V1S will by FAR out-quality the Dell Inspiron, just as a Dell Latitude would outclass the Dell Inspiron. As you said, one is a business laptop, one is a consumer laptop.

    Like all business laptops, the V1S will be built better, will be more durable, will have TPM, spill-resistant keyboard, HDD shock protection, biometric fingerprint reader, a business-class keyboard, Intel virtualization support, and more.

    The biggest difference though, is the build quality.

    However, depending on what you want in a laptop, everything just listed above may or may not matter to you at all. If they don't, then go with the 1520, which will be by far the cheaper machine.
     
  3. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    I loves the quality. I didn't know how dell organized there laptop hierarchy actually.
     
  4. taelrak

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    Inspiron - budget laptops. Low-end to high-mid specs. Lowest build quality possibly. Lowest level of customer service and warranty support. But very very cheap.

    XPS - enthusiast laptops, differing by size. Each of the 3 in here offers some options you won't be able to find in the competition (LED screens or 200GB 7200RPM HDD, SSD, etc.), although 2 of the 3 are outdated now. M1330 is arguably THE premier laptop in the 13.3" category now with its specs. M1710 was at one point a very capable gaming machine. M2010 was one of the 1st media centers to come out. Build-quality similar or slightly better than Inspirons, but specs are far better. All 3 models in this line are EXTREMELY expensive compared to the competition.

    Latitude - business lineup. Not quite as legendary as the Thinkpads, but these are pretty sturdy. Good battery life, very good build quality. Dedicated GPU is a bit weak compared to say, the T61p or the HP 8510w. More expensive than Inspiron, but very good value for the money.

    Precision - the heavy workstations of the Dell lineup. Not many people buy these. They're essentially Latitudes with slightly better GPU (maybe) and a steeper price tag.

    The V1s would probably be looking to target the same market as the Latitudes, for your comparison.
     
  5. gibson00

    gibson00 Notebook Evangelist

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    I am kind of torn too. I was looking at the G1S, but after reading about various issues that people are having (sound, sleep issues, grainy screens, etc.) I am thinking about getting a Dell 1520. They are supposedly more sturdy now, with a magnesium cover, and a few hundred cheaper than the G1S for pretty much the same specs...
     
  6. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Keep in mind the G1S is very popular, so there are bound to be more issues appearing on the forums than for other (less popular) laptops. It's a statistical fact. :)
     
  7. BigBenMD

    BigBenMD Notebook Guru

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    According to the PCMag review of the 1420, Dell seems to have pulled out all the stops for the new Inspirons (Magnesium alloy chassis, better keyboard, etc.) While the 1505 was plagued with a number of problems, this new refresh seems to have addressed a number of the quality issues seen before.

    That being said, I wouldnt really try to compare the 1520 to the V1S, whose specs we don't actually know yet. The D630 or D830 is a better comparison IMO.
     
  8. redzapper

    redzapper Notebook Consultant

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    I just bought a G1S a week ago and I after looking at the new Inspirons - especially a 1520 configured similarly - I'm happy I bought the G1S. Prices are comparable between the two and the 1520 doesn't come with HDMI and only has 10/100 ethernet.

    Also, Inspirons come with that frightful Dell customer support - yikes!
     
  9. taelrak

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    I doubt total complaints of the G1S really have even come close to the sheer volume of complaints that the Inspirons get per day :p

    Most of the problems you listed are exceptions and not the norm. People don't always bother to post if they don't have any problems.

    That said, I'm glad Dell's finally making their Inspirons a bit more presentable. I'd still never touch one with a 10-foot stick, but it's a step in the right direction at least.

    I don't think you can still compare them with the Latitudes however. Dell by design will always keep the Inspirons far worse than the Latitudes if for no other reason than to be able to market the Latitudes as a better business machine.
     
  10. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    G1S having issues is not a problem. I bit in time, all have an issue. Nature of a computer. No, I just meant the G1S is the first one I came across with the Santa Rosa and the 8600 GT and other frills. It's been my baseline. I've seen speculation as it were, about the V1S having basically the same goodies but most likely thinner, lighter, and overall better build quality. So I'm floating along for a while but before august the 1st I hope to bite on something. I got about one month I guess.
     
  11. taelrak

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    Hrm, well the estimated shipping for the Inspiron would be mid-July. No ETA on the V1s at least.

    Do keep in mind though, especially for the newer, top-of-the-line machines, build-time can take quite a while.

    For example, I ordered my custom MBP the 1st weekend it came out, (beginning of June) and it gave me an estimated delivery date of July 30. (thankfully, they finally got the HDD that wasn't in stock and it shipped yesterday). Some people who ordered the Thinkpad T61 back from May 7 still haven't seen their laptops yet...and may be weeks or even months before they do.

    You definitely want to be buying quite soon "just in case". If you get it just a bit earlier, you have time to return it for replacements and fixes if you're not satisfied.
     
  12. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    Oh dear. I thought they'd be going out closer to a few weeks after ordering. Maybe I should just bite the bullet with the G1S. The lights just really doing do it for me. I also heard it's thicker than what a V1S would of been pulling. I wouldn't consider it junk when bringing up this better "build quality" term that I've seen throw around.
     
  13. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    I think the Dell Inspiron E1520 is a better value than the ASUS G1S. The G1S is just a A8 series laptop with lights and it is not any where near as durable as the V1S. It is slightly better than an Inspiron, but costs a lot more.
     
  14. taelrak

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    Well, just something to keep in mind.
    Typically, Asus retailers have great turn-around times once they get the machine. However, as people here who who have waited for the G1S, the C90 or the Compal IFL90 can attest, the time from which a machine's specs are officially released from the ODM (Asus) to the time when that machine can be pre-ordered, to the time the retailer actually gets the machine from Asus can be quite substantial. Once the retailer gets the machine in hand, I'm sure they can get it over to you in a matter of a week or two as long as they have them in stock.

    Dell is a substantially larger company with a lot more leverage on its suppliers than Asus or Apple however. They most likely would be able to get the machine out to you by or before their estimated ship date, assuming nothing goes wrong.
     
  15. redzapper

    redzapper Notebook Consultant

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    How is the Inspiron 1520 a better value than the G1S?

    Stock G1S from GenTech or BTOTech $1820-$1850

    Inspiron 1520 similarly configured $1871

    Also, with the G1S you also get HDMI port, 10/100/1000 ethernet, laptop bag and mouse.

    Inspiron 1520 configured below:
    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB/4MB cache)
    Genuine Windows ® Vista Home Premium Edition
    High Resolution, glossy widescreen 15.4 inch display (1680x1050)
    256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 8600M GT
    2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
    160GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
    CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive)
    Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini-Card
    Built-in Bluetooth capability (2.0 EDR)
    Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam
    85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell)
    High Definition Audio 2.0
    Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
     
  16. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    The stuff I didn't know about the Notebook game.
     
  17. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    I apologize, you are right. I found the Dell to be even higher at $1,919. I would have checked sooner, but the Dell site was acting funny. The new Dell laptops are better than ever, but the price seems to have gone up quite a bit.
     
  18. taelrak

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    I think this is a good trend though. The Inspirons really needed some work :p If overall quality on laptops go up across the board, then others will be forced to compete.
     
  19. redzapper

    redzapper Notebook Consultant

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    Not at all. I thought maybe you had a sweet Dell coupon or something which should definitely be shared!
     
  20. speedy21589

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    Weird, I have a pretty decent (imo, anyway) 1520 configured for about $1400. T7300, 8600m GT, 160 gb, 1 gig memory (i would just buy 2 gigs for like $70 and upgrade myself), WSXGA+, 9 cell battery, and 3 year warranty parts+labor.

    Then again I am getting a full 12% off from an education discount, which came out to about $200.
     
  21. oblomschik

    oblomschik Notebook Evangelist

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    This is precisely why Dell is going to be a better value. There are always coupons for Dells. You can look forward to $400-$500 by next week probably for the 4th of July. It's just how Dell operates, retail price is high, but with a little patience you will get a very good deal. Whether it is through EPP, coupons, etc... it is all the same. Also, once you configured it in the card, don't forget to call them, and be polite, there is a good chance they will discount it even further.

    Now, if you have a dell rep for your work, you may even be able to order something through them (probably the small business version of the 1520).
     
  22. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    So would it take longer to say get a Sager2090 put together. :confused:
     
  23. redzapper

    redzapper Notebook Consultant

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    My G1S has been excellent so far.

    Given my horrendous experience with Dell customer service in the past :mad: , a $500 discount is probably about how much it will take for me to consider a Dell again.
     
  24. nameless1

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    Well, if the V1s comes out at $2000, like the V1jp, with the same specs as the g1s....it better be reallllly high quality to sell over the competitors.
     
  25. Xerxes

    Xerxes Notebook Consultant

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    I never had a dell. I worked on some but they were latitudes. I'm seeing some dell hate that makes me want to stay away.

    I'm considering trying the Barebone computers, although they look plain, I don't know any other draw backs.
     
  26. taelrak

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    Well, let's not hate Dell just for being Dell. That's not very constructive at all.

    Instead, let's just hate Dell because their Inspirons and corresponding customer service/warranty tended to suck (no clue about the latest batch since it's not out yet of course). :p

    I remember getting put on hold for ages while trying to contact Dell, and then getting referred to Microsoft because "it's a microsoft product"...getting held for more hours with Microsoft and then receiving a "sorry, we can't help you. that's a Dell problem. Contact them."

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