Do you use Intels wireless app or default XP to manage WiFi?

I have not uninstall it, just don't have it running at start. So having Intel Proset in memory is necessary for the buttons to work? Grrr... ugly! So HControl is used for some buttons, Intel's app for other.

Thanks... will try later!

 

My solution is allowing the Intel Proset software to install, then unchecking its processes using msconfig so it doesn't launch at startup. I then use Windows to manage my wireless networks and retain the ability to use the button. Works perfectly for me.

~ Brett

 

As I said, I have the Proset application installed but have disabled all of its processes from starting - the wireless button does not work. Nrbelex, are you sure that they are all disabled, that there is not one of them starting?

I am using Spybot's startup tool, which shows more things than msconfig.

Anyway, let me reenable Intel's Proset, see what happens...

 

I had the weirdest problem with Intel Proset when I first got my laptop. It would keep asking me for the profile password and I would type in all the passwords I had used during install to no avail. So I used Windows to manage my wireless until this morning when I updated the Intel software. Its working great now. ^.^

If you own a W3j and need the latest Intel Proset drivers, heres a link to it.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/download.aspx?url=/11141/eng/Intel(R)PROSetWirelessSoftwareVer10.5.0.1_32.exe&agr=N&ProductID=2259&DwnldId=11141&strOSs=All&OSFullName=All+Operating+Systems&lang=eng

 

PROset is definitely installed, but in msconfig, (haven't checked Spybot's utility, didn't know it had one...) I have "ifrmewrk" and "ZCfgSvc" disabled. I definitely retain control of the wireless button and am definitely using Windows' inbuilt wireless control. The only other entry that might relate to this (and this I now see on both Spybot's list and msconfig) is the "Wireless Console 2", A.K.A. "wcourier" which is enabled. I'm also using a W3J and I'm not sure what you're on so that might account for the difference as well.

~ Brett

 

I use both.

I turn off the intel for the windows when i go war driving because the windows one logs connections that happen as you are driving whereas the intel just shows current ones.

 

Not that I wardrive, but isn't that what NetStumbler is for?

~ Brett

 

I mucked around with the drivers last night to see what would happen with the dedicated Wireless Lan Button. Uninstalling all but the Intel Wireless Lan Driver gives an error when you press the button. Installing only the following:



Enables me to use the Wireless Lan Button, but also allows Windows to take care of all connections if I disable all the Intel entries on startup.

 

Exactly - I remember checking off those exact two options and I mentioned the processes to disable to eliminate any active traces of Intel's software in an earlier post.

~ Brett

 

Ill experiment with netstumbler because you mentioned that but at default settings it also just shows the current connections.

what the windows wifi program does is list them all between the last refresh. So you drive a mile it shows all the networks your card saw. It shows their connection strength too.

Very useful ive found free wifi essentially everywhere ive ever been within 30 mins. I mean this is getting easier in time lol practically all of the us is covered with free wifi now.

 

war driving .. just remembered the story here at my place ... see below .. the penalty is too stiff ..

Teen, 17, first to be charged with unauthorised wireless Net access

A 17-YEAR-OLD polytechnic student has become the first person here to be charged with piggybacking on someone else's wireless Internet connection. Garyl Tan Jia Luo was accused yesterday of using a laptop computer to gain unauthorised access to a home wireless network on May 13 this year. If convicted, Tan faces up to three years in jail and fines of up to $10,000 under Section 6(1)(a) of the Computer Misuse Act. Tan was released on $6,000 bail and is scheduled to appear at the Subordinate Courts on Wednesday.

Back to the topic .. i think its better for windows to handle it especially if u have WinXP SP2 that has Wireless Provisioning Services (WPS), which makes connecting to hotspots both easier and more secure.

 

ASUS M6886NELP Problem with Intel Proset/Wireless Software - HControl.exe solved

Intel Proset/Wireless Software 10.5.1.0 works withs HControl Version 1043.2.15.64 (HControl: http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Oth...04321564.shtml)

http://www.teccentral.de/forum/showthread.php?p=489757

 

Out of the box, I was unable to get on the internet with my Intel wireless. I've got no idea why. Immediately when I switched to the Windows' xp app, I was able to get on. So I've left it that way for now.

 

This happened in Singapore.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/11/asia/AS_GEN_Singapore_Internet_Charges.php

I'm not sure if the "war driving" penalty is similar in any other country. It sure isn't in the US. Here's a story about the only conviction of a war driving crime in the US so far. (Sentence was no jail time..)

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9281

In terms of the thread, I've only used the Intel tool. It's better, and more informative for me than the Windows one..

 

The guy who came up with the moniker "war driving" should be given thirty lashes and locked away for awhile to reflect on the stupidity and corniness of that name. Also, it's an illegal practice that's akin to digitally breaking into someone's home.

 

Well actually, war driving itself isn't illegal since the term only refers to the act of detecting wireless networks. What you do once you've found them is where you can get yourself into trouble. Using a network to piggyback is what is currently illegal. Nonetheless, the name is pretty dumb.

~ Brett

 

On my new NB, Intel ProSet works unbelievably well (knock wood). I boot up and it automatically connects. No hassles, no lag, no drops. It didn't work quite as well on the Compaq - Windows Zero worked better on it.

 

Intel ProSet works very well. I travel around in my wifi-infested school (UCLA) a lot with my new G1. I used to use the window app to detect signals with my old notebook, but with the G1 and intel ProSet, I noticed I get better reception as well as in places I could not get, before.

 

i personally use the intel app but im sure there are a lot of ppl that dont want to run the big [bloated?] program
for simplicity reasons, i would recommend winxp app, but for people who like more options, flexibilities, intel app i think is better

 

Windows XP's built in wireless management takes up less resources than the Intel software IMO. I've disabled it from starting up too (made my A8 startup slowly)

 

I use Windows at the moment, but I find that it drops my university's wireless network a lot (but strangely, I don't have the same results at home). When I run the factory restore (since I play around with so many things) in a month (when I have time), I'm going to go back to using the Intel software with most, if not all the default drivers (with the possible exception of installing the ATI 6.8 drivers).

Plus, I find that the "Wireless Off" button just turns off the antenna and the Windows service does not recognize that the wireless is disabled (just says it can't connect). The ProSet software tells you that the card is disabled when you use the on/off button.

 

XP cos it loads up much faster than the Intel one!

 

The Vista wireless is too cool not to use. The only config I had to do was type in my WEP key when I was prompted and it's worked flawlessly ever since.

 

Intel Wireless breaks too much, and while all PC based wireless are configured for windows to pick up, not all of them work well with intel's software. I don't like it that way, but windows offers definite reliability in that arena.

 

I have 3 laptops (see sig) and they all use Intel PROSet WLAN chip. I found out that the Intel WLAN application is causing a lot of issues with other programs, connecting to different router, or just plain crash by itself. I tried it with clean WinXP OS and have less problems, but still problematic. However, who runs WinXP without ANY 3rd party programs installed?

But generally, the Intel chip is not as good as Broadcom. Google for the Intel WLAN chip and you'll notice many people have issues with it, so much so that they want to change the hardware completely! I wish manufacturer will just forego the Centrino name and use non-Intel chip.