Does ASUS have too many model versions?

ok seriously do they really really need 8(7) freakin version of the same laptop(g50vt), that's ridicious there are so small changes they've given them on only change the price by like 50 dollars or so, of course i'm still going to buy from them but they need to make a change
/rant
so does anyone else feel the same way

 

Why? they're just different spec sets, is it really that galling to you?

 

Are u drunk lol. This is a flamebait poll if I've ever seen one.

 

no i just saw them release the asus g50vt-x3 that only has one hdd and has the same specs as the g50vt-a2, i'm pretty sure other people fill the same way

 

And you think it's worth your time to get all uppity about it?

 

do you want to stay on topic??? and not post pointless crap

 

So more options & variety is a bad thing?

I guess I come from a different universe where that is a good thing.


::scenario::

jonhapimp @ the salad bar.

"What is this Romain Lettuce? we already have iceburg lettuce dont we? and fat free ranch? im speechless...."

 

I agree with jonh, they should stick with one config, or start a new line

 

As a mac user your used to having limited options


There is nothing wrong with more choices it helps to tailor to more customers.

One person may want the works with blueray, 2 hard drives ect ect. While the next guy only wanted it for the gpu and does not need those things.

If you limit your options your hurting the customer because your going to

A.) Make the one guy pay for more than he needs or
B.) Make the other guy unhappy because the product does not come with some of the features he wants/needs.

Its just common sense to offer more than one config on something for that reason. Granted it can go too far sometimes and then start to get confusing and I think that is maybe the problem. The good thing in that though is it makes you do your research before buying and you end up with a more educated purchase.

 

I dont think theres anything wrong with them.

 

At least for ASUS models u can look at the model and know the baseline specs of the machine. Try doing that with a Dell or HP/Compaq.... granted there is the other end of the line (Apple) but they've already proven to the world that they are a consumer electronics company now so it makes sense to have a few models and leave it at that.

 

Its fine to have multiple models, but I agree they do have too many. If they wanted this many, they should let system builders actually customize the systems.

 

I also fail to see how more options would be a disadvantage, however, I can see why consumers may find it a little confusing with so many different SKUs for one particular notebook; especially when there some variants that are only sold in certain stores. It does somewhat affect the overall purchasing experience, but at the end, more choices will always prevail as being better in my books.

 

List of HP dv5 configurations: http://h20180.www2.hp.com/apps/Nav?..._client=S-A-R163-1&h_page=hpcom&lang=en&cc=us. Pretty much the same thing with Dell Inspirons, Sony Vaios, you name it.

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What annoys me is that they are doing whatever they can do to get rid of some parts, not to make good pcs.
I bougt a M50vn a few months ago, very nice comp, but i'd have like a better cpu.
And now they realese one more version with that better cpu. They are making so many versions so they can manage their inventories of old parts.
they are not making good new comps, but half assed comps.

 

This is just what always happens, no matter what brand or computer you buy in a month something better is going to be out.

Its a hard fact to accept for some, but again pointing fingers at Asus is pointing the wrong way. Everybody does this and if they just happen to refresh a model faster than another company thats again good not bad.

That means more people can have the better stuff faster instead of waiting longer for a refresh, you got stuck on the back side of it so you feel the opposite. Remember there are two sides to every fence, and you have to look whats on the other side too.

I got stuck in the same way, I got the 9700GT when a month or so later the 9800GS became standard for less money too!

Sucked for me but was great for those who waited a month longer to purchase.

 

Dude, it's not CTO type.

 

I think different models are pretty swell, it's just a shame that you can't get the whole selection from any 1 retailer.

 

I changed the title of the thread to something more civil. Since the current format seems to be generating some un-civil feelings around here

 

Choice is good, but the naming and numbering is confusing to the average consumer. But hey, maybe they are taking a page from Intel and AMD...as long as they don't pull an nVidia and rename it the G51 because it has a new coat of paint. I suppose I should redo my model difference guide now before they come out with another model.

But I'd have to say that the worst is going from the V to the Vt. That's gotta be pretty good at inducing major buyer's remorse.

 

Instead of making 93586948649 different versions of a comp they should have something like dell where you could pick the cpu, ram, hd etc..
That would kind of eliminate the different models they have.

 

Asus did that up until a couple of years ago -- Built On Asus/ASMobile -- their customizable whitebox units. They didn't sell well enough to justify keeping them as an option, and Asus dropped it.

Asus' market research and sales reviews showed that their Ensemble units were what buyers wanted more anyway (back then the quality was somewhat higher), and that the majority of buyers don't know enough to be able to customize their purchases, and that they don't care to anyway. This doesn't include the vast majority of forum members here, but we make up a *very* tiny portion of the US and global PC market. This limited technical expertise and inclination of the overall buying market is why Dell and everyone else sells most of their product pre-packaged either on their website or at B&M/online retail.

Asus (admittedly) now has more submodels than most manufacturers, but that is chiefly because they release updates much more frequently than the other major competitors - how often do you see the pre-built systems changing for Dell, etc - and these are all targeted at either other buyer submarkets or because the component supply inventory/pricing has shifted to a point where the new config is less expensive to produce. The other part of all these submodels are Asus trying to still provide some level/degree of "customization" on the systems. Compare this to the glory Ensemble days, you had only 4 models with updates twice a year coinciding with cpu/platform updates.

In the end Asus is what it has become over the past 24 months, a mass producer competing in the sub-$1500 market where margins are lower but buyers are a more plentiful resource (and the competition is stiffer). The $1000+ market is dominated by Apple, according to industry sources, with a 60% share.

 

idk why you sense anger in me, anyway i'm saying that there is such a little different between these models to be 6-7 different versions of it, most of them with a only 50-100 dollars different's. i can understand having some versions but this is ridiculous.

 

It might be updates or getting rid of old components (from other designs). One of the cost saving strategy.

 

nope there still selling all of them at the same time

 

Apparently you can buy the G50V from Newegg. Not sure why anyone would buy one with a 9700M GT over a 9800M GS for pretty much the same price.

 

my problem with asus is the amount of models of the eee pc they have churned out... add in the other eee branded products that will be coming out...

for their regular notebooks... having a variety of notebook models is fine, but there doesn't seem to be a line (to me anyways) that divides their notebook lines clear enough... like gaming and non-gaming is quite obvious, but everything that is non-gaming seems to have a huge bunch of models

also they should really cut back on the submodels...

 

the poll choices don't make any sense, "wth is wrong with them" WTH does this mean?

 

What The Hell - Means Asus is just being crazy and produce a lot of version of the same series.

What I meant about getting rid of old components:
A) Components from previous version 0. Overflowed, must get rid.
B) New components for version 1

You can't possibly get rid of A by just throwing it away, so they incorporated it into version 1. But they need to produce B version so that they would have something to manufacture when A version runs out of version 0's component. That's why they can be on sale at the same time. Got it?

 

Haha you have no idea what you are talking about topic creator

This happens with ALL brands. hell I have worked with a line from HP, that had over 30 versions of basically the same computer with 1 change per model. Hell, sometimes an increase in the model number was actually a decrease in performance, like a certain series had a 5.4krpm drive and the next one had a 4.2krpm drive. The worst? Another series has the exact same specs and models, with only 1 change: 17 inch screen. Same for 14 inch. Exact same models with what seems to be same chassi etc. Don't blame Asus, they are not the first to do so, and certainly not the last ones.

Someone already pointed out the reason why they do it, and it is legitimate. If you are savvy enough about computer hardware, you won't find this troublesome at all. The information is yours, so you can choose the model you want. They are not tricking you into anything.

 

Yeah I know that sometimes they put new tech in old models to make new models.
But i'm talking about the fact that sometime they can put a better part and choose to put another one for obscure reasons.
The M50vn was supposed ot be the most powerful M50 yet they put a intel 8600 when the 9400 was already out and used in many other laptops (like the 51).
Sure it aint a big thing, its just annoying when you buy a pc because it more or less wha your looking for, not because its what your looking for.
If dell had made a 15" studio xps i would have gone for a dell for these reason.

 

I think all the model #s are confusing as to which models I should be looking at, which models are upgrades or replacements for what models? I want a 14" with a strong gpu and docking station...only one model for the USA (also annoying different models for different locations) the V2S-B1 but it looks to be getting old in the tooth...

 

The reason for that is that they (all but) abandoned the business niche. They focus on mainstream bang-for-the-buck machines nowadays.