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    External Vga insted of micro Dvi in new santa rosa notebooks why

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by pekingu, Jul 25, 2007.

  1. pekingu

    pekingu Newbie

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    i was interested in the w7s series and noticed that although it has a directx 10 nvidia 8000 series gpu, the external video port is an old vga. When comparing with other santa rosa notebooks in the same category i found that this is a common drawback for small notebooks like this. External port is a deciding factor for me im not planning on connecting it to a crt and has no sense to degrade signal in such a way when vga is legacy for new gpus (specially considering that a cheap conversor changes a dvi out into an vga out if you need to)

    so wht the reason for notebook gpus to be using vga external ports, or maybe im wrong and the external videoport is handled by notebook mainboard instead of the gpu, but that would imply integrated video at the same time wich sounds me useless lost of energy for a notebook unless it uses hybrid video, and that technology is not implemented in those notebooks
     
  2. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Well I don't know but VGA is not so much "legacy", I believe... a laptop should be able to work with almost any monitor out there, and there are plenty of monitors still around that only support VGA in.

    Also, even more importantly, the laptop should for many people, including most business users, work with a beamer -- and I'm not sure those support any new input formats like DVI. Many institutions still use quite old beamers, that's for sure, because they are expensive equipment to replace.
     
  3. pekingu

    pekingu Newbie

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    but, as i have mentioned you can turn a dvi port into an vga with a cheap converter
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=vga+adapter

    in fact all computer desktop graphic cards include one of this for free, i have 3 or more laying around.
    the opposite, turning an vga into a dvi is not possible. Signal is analogue and you cannont turn it into a digital one to perfectly meet the pixel mesh of an lcd. So you get apparent degradation. For 4 to 5 bucks it is a dumb decision taken by the manufacturer. I say, use micro dvi and include an vga conversor.
     
  4. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Keep in mind that Asus is marketing the W7 as a business notebook, and they haven't changed the chassis design much it seems between the W7, W7j and W7s updates.

    Despite the capability of a converter to pass vga signals, and conceding the point that it would make sense on some level, it is counterintuitive for a manufacturer to either expect 98+% of their end-users to go out and purchase said converter after buying their notebook - you can hear the uproar over "I just bought this and now I need to go get a converter just to make it work?" - or else supply it with the package itself (at increased cost to Asus, diminishing their profit margin). Either way, it just isn't going to happen while old standards are still around in corporate lands.
     
  5. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Your topic is somewhat misleading, it should say "External Vga insted of micro Dvi in w7s" the V1S is a new Asus Santa rosa model and it at Micro DVI.
     
  6. pekingu

    pekingu Newbie

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    sorry it is misleading but not because of wht you say, it is misleading because im interested only in 14" 13.3" and 12.1" notebooks only, i know there are dozens of bigger ones with external dvi but finding an small one with this port is difficult. But now that you mention the v1 series, i have read here there will be a v2s and that if im not wrong, this is an small one with micro dvi so maybe it will be a solution, not as elegant and cost effective one but a solution indeed.
     
  7. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    The V2S is one of Asus's best built machines in terms of build quality and design.
     
  8. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    i'm pretty sure the V2s have dvi out
     
  9. jsis

    jsis Notebook Evangelist

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    no one likes adapters.
     
  10. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    agreed, but sometimes that's the only way we can get things to work unfortunately.
     
  11. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Full size DVI are not practical on notebooks, the uDVI adapter isnt to bad, its free to, apple charged my sis $35 for hers.
     
  12. Patrick

    Patrick Formerly beat spamers with stiks

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    I love the fact that the c90s has both vga and hdmi. If used them way more in the 15 days if had this laptop than the mini dvi port on my four year old power book