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    F3JP very loud fan

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by mpiktas, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. mpiktas

    mpiktas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, today I bought the Asus F3JP laptop. The model is actually called Z53J series, but the sticker says M/B F3JP. Unfortunately I am not completely satisfied. The fan works very loudly, it is practically always on. My bios version was 205, so I upgraded it to version 206 the problem did not go away. Is the fan suppose to be so loud? I did some research before buying, and I did not find anyone complaining. Is there some utility in Vista to see the temperature of processor and fan speed? Or is there some Asus utility? If there is how it is called?

    Also some of the preinstalled Asus programs just refuse to work for me. Ati Catalyst center also crashes. Anybody else having such troubles? Where could I start looking for possible culprits? Vista is so friendly it does not say anything why the program crashed :)

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
  2. siLc

    siLc Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Unfortunately yes, F3J fans are on all the time with a standard configuration. As it seems, BIOS updates usually don't address these kind of "issues". The trade-off from all the fan noise is that it runs pretty cool. But if the fan noise really bothers you, why not give Notebook Hardware Control a try. Get the program (google it), an ACPI profile for F3Jp, follow the instructions and you`re good to go. However bear in mind that the notebook WILL be significantly hotter, at least 10*C when idle in my case.
    When tinkering with the temperatures and fan speeds, be very careful!
     
  3. mpiktas

    mpiktas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hm, Notebook Hardware Control gave me a BSOD, these are not suppose to be in Vista, eh? What do you define as hot? 50°C is hot or not? Since if with fan always on, the CPU stays at 30°C, I will be wiling to risk. The sound of the fan is rather annoying, especially comparing to my older laptop. I doubt that I could fall asleep with the laptop turned on. What are the other programs for controlling or monitoring cpu temperature and fan? I tried few none is working so far. And supplied by Asus only says temperature is normal. That is not very informative. The laptop is pretty cool nonetheless, it will be much cooler, when I'll get rid of the noise and install Linux. Vista is a mess.
     
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    kennyy Notebook Consultant

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    50°C is not consider hot, mine CPU(A8JP) always stay at 67°C on idle and fan of cause need to work to cool down the cpu, mine also have a very loud fan. I suggest you play music if you hate to hear the fan noise
     
  5. akitaka

    akitaka Notebook Enthusiast

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    How loud do you consider it to be a bother?

    As of yet, with quite-office mode in the Power4Gear utility, the fan is whispering low enough for me to hear the hum of the pool system outside. Without it, the noise is only a slight-bit louder, and is generally blowing, when I abuse the GPU, when gaming.

    I run XP pro, so that could be a different issue altogether.

    On idle, my cpu runs at 45-50 degrees-C. 30 is cooler than necessary.

    I'm kinda surprised that you didn't know this as a Linux user; I swear learning my way around even the user-friendly versions gave me a headache. Updates, updates, updates...
     
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    mpiktas Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hm my wording was a bit wrong. I wanted to say, that if my laptop as of now is only 30°C, then I will search for ways of putting the temperature up, and the fan noise down. Unfortunately I do not know at what temperature my laptop is. None of the programs I downloaded showed me anything. I tried Notebook Hardware Control, it BSOD me, then I looked for others in Vista Store, there were only two, both did not show anything. Maybe there is some place in Vista, where the temperature is displayed?

    Concerning the noise, I use PowerGear Quiet Office, and the fan is loud, and always on. It is like working with desktop computer. I really want to find out if it is not some defect or something. If I knew the temperature it would give me some clues, for example if the themperature when computer is idle is 70°C and the fan is working, probably something is wrong with the hardware. If the temperature is 30°C, and the fan is working something is wrong with the software. For me it is very strange, that my old HP laptop with AMD Sempron practicaly does not use the fan, and with new Asus laptop with Intel Core 2 Duo, which supposes to be energy friendly, the fan is always on. I am not trying to dig at anything, just trying to find out if everything is ok with my new laptop. I have this paranoia, that I bought the broken one :)
     
  7. siLc

    siLc Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    My bad at the BSOD, when I had Vista installed, it BSODed me too. Have you tried MobileMeter ?
    I would highly doubt that the idle temperature is 30°C, more like 38-43°C that I have experienced.
    While I can further justify why the fan is always working, I won't. You'll just have to live with it, for now. Your best bet is to wait for a NHC version which is compatible with Vista.
     
  8. mpiktas

    mpiktas Notebook Enthusiast

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    I tried MobilMeter, it said that cannon communicate with ACPI. Still I found program which finally shows something, it is called RightMark CPU Clock utility. It shows the core temperature, the current cpu speed and cpu throttle. With Quiet Office mode, the core temperature is 50-53 °C, the throttle is on 1.5GHz and usually the cpu is on 1.0GHz. When on High Perfomance mode the throttle is lifted to 2GHz, and the temperature stars going down, but I did not see it fall down lower than 49°C, but also I did not observe longer than few minutes :) So from what I see, the High Perfomance mode wants lower temperatures, than Quiet Office mode. So it seems that I will have to figure out how to tune all the ACPI settings. Also it seems that only Quiet Office mode turns decreases the speed of the fan. I would dearly like that in idle mode the fan was not turning at all, or it was turning very little to make a very little noise. But it is probably not possible. This laptop has only one fan, so you cannot turn it off. The fan on the bottom would probably made everything much quieter.
     
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    akitaka Notebook Enthusiast

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    Your temperatures are the same as mine, with the same cpu temperatures when in Quite Office mode, AND on High Performance. Personally, I feel that 55 degrees C is the highest I'll idle at with any given computer to keep it's life long, and cannot see the benefits of having the fan off, especially with the graphics card that this notebook has.

    On the sidelines, I've tried to see if SpeedFan could change the fan noise levels, but it didn't seem to recognize the notebook's hardware other than the cpu and temperatures. Maybe you can look around the forum search, and see if there are any different softwares that can edit the fan performance.
     
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    Speedfan latest beta shows that core temperature is 30, while RightMark Cpu is showing 45. What version of Speedfan did you use? BTW near new Dell desktop commputer the fan was inaudible :) But in the quiet room you can hear it, from few meters away. Also the sound of my fan has the annoying quality, it constantly provides deep bass note. It is like the freezer sound, but just lower and of course quieter. Probably that is the reason, why it bugs me.