F8SV-A1 (upcoming) compared to Asus G1S-A1 (out now)? differences?

Ok, I'm looking for a laptop and have posted for help in the "What Notebook" thread and I'm looking for a portable notebook with the ability to handle some gaming, preferably 14" or smaller due to size factor. I've been checking the specs for both the G1S and the F8SV and they seem very similiar, most notably, for a 14" screen the F8 is not that much smaller than the G1.

G1S-A1: 15" with res of 1680
13.9 x 1.5 x 11.2 6.8lbs

F8SV: 14" with res of 1440
13.6" x 1.5x 9.8 x 1.5" 5.7 lbs.

They are both 2.2 ghz, 8600GT, 160/5400 rpm..........

1.4 inches in depth and .3" inches in width doesn't seem like much difference.

 

Yea but the F8 should be over a pound lighter, which is considereable...

 

Just as thick though. The G1s will have the GDDR3 8600GT, and we assume the F8 will have the DDR2 8600GT.

The F8 is quite large for a 14" notebook though.

 

An inch and a half in depth can be quite noticeable, and when combined with the fact that the F8Sv is over a pound lighter, it makes it decently more portable. If I have to use my laptop on the train, or on a plane, I'd much rather have the F8sv than the G1s. However, remember that the G1s will have better gaming performance overall, due to (almost certainly) higher clocked video memory. Everything else between the two models should be fairly similar, except of course for the look (I much prefer the more elegant, professional look of the black IMD casing of the F8Sv.)

 

I'm not worried too much about the weight since it will be in my rolling luggage all the time, just taking it out for security at the airport and such. I won't be carrying it around in a backpack or anything. My primary concern is for the size because it will have to be in my luggage which will take away space for my other things.....I was thinking something the same size or smaller than an HP dv2500t (13.15x1.54x9.33) because I've seen it at a local store and I think that size or smaller would fit my needs...it's hard to draw the line at just how much bigger is too much bigger. It seems like the HP is the smallest 14" I've come across....not many 13" models have a decent graphics card. I've never owned a laptop before. I'm worried about getting something too big....

HP dv2500t (- worried about the 8400gs gpu in it)
Asus G1S-A1 15" (out now, kinda big?)

not out yet:
Asus F8SV-A1 14" (still a little big, 8600GT)
Asus V2S 14" (smallest asus im looking at - only 8600GS)
Asus V1S-A1 15" (8600GT, big??)

On a side note, would an 8400GS be enough for games like Civ 4, Medieval Total War, maybe an MMO like Lords of the Ring Online?

 

It should.
I know LOTRO can play on alot of video cards and still look nice even at lower settings.

 

Yes, the 8400M-GS should work fine for those games. However, if you want to have the option of perhaps playing newer games down the line, and if you can afford it, I'd highly recommend the Asus V2s. It should be small enough for you, and the 8600M-GS is a much better graphics card than the 8400M-GS.

 

There are 1680 x 1050 14 inch screens available.

I wouldnt rule out the f8 will have one.

 

Too me that seems a bit overkill for a 14.1" screen. I think the F8 will have 1400x900.

 

Either 1280x800(WXGA) or 1440x900(WXGA+) probably the former though.

 

Really? I've never heard or seen of one. Who has them, if you don't mind my asking?

Anyhow, the F8 won't have one, the screen rez has already been confirmed.

 

Actually, I'm gonna say the latter. Its probably going to be WXGA+, like its predecessor, the A8Js.

And the F8 really isn't that much larger than the dv2500t. It should be shipping next month, a few weeks after the V2S, which would also be a good choice (and about the same size as the dv2500).

 

Is the F8SV-A1 bigger than the V2S? Also, does the F8SV have bluetooth standard like the V2S does, I couldn't find any info on it.

Thanks!

 

The F8SV is considerably bigger than the V2s. The difference is about .6lbs, and an extra third of an inch on all sides (length, width, depth).

 

Yikes! That is a good reason to stick with the V2S! Thanks for the info!

 

I think a better comparison would be the v1s an the g1s, haha, the name is so close too, and specs extreemly close. BTW what is the point of g1s when a business laptop has a gf8600 512mb vram and g1s gaming laptop with only 256mb vram?

 

g1s uses higher clocked gddr3 ram while the v1s uses gddr2 ram
the g1s is much better for gaming purposes.

 

true, and 8600 gs GDDR3 is almost the same as 8600 gt DDR2:

3dmark06:
stock clocks - 2773 vs 2939
stable oc( 650/750 vs 600/480) - 3392 vs 3643

and 8600gs can be oc'ed even further(not sure about gt). So, basically, my thinking is (if V2s gets 700 stock GDDR3, oh please ) - go for V2s, if you can afford it...

 

An 8600M-GS with GDDR3 vram is nothing like an 8600M-GT with DDR2 vram. Their relative merits and dismerits happen to balance out in the 3dmark06 test, but as we all know that is a very poor indication of real life performance. The 8600M-GS, even with GDDR3 vram, is not a true gamers card. Yes the higher memory clocks help it with texture filling, but the 16 stream processors simply will not be able to keep up with mid to high end rendering in newer game engines.

 

http://www.excaliberpc.com/ASUS_F8SV-A1_Intel_Core_2_Duo_T7500/partinfo-id-580899.html

Check This Link...excaliber is shipping it with Bluetooth 2.0 out of the box so technically both the V2s and the F8sv are on the same page

 

I believe he was talking about the weight and dimensions.


Though now that we know how crippled the V2s is, the two laptops are no longer really comparable.

 

In games the 8600GT DDR2, even though it will suffer greatly from VRAM effects, has double the shader power (although the 8600M GS has them clocked like the 8700 so it's a bit less than 2x) than the GS.

For exemple, a Geforce 6600LE, even clocked at a 6600GT specs is slower than a standard 6600

 

Hey Can someone give me a link with the preview pics and some specs?

Thanks in advance!

 

Ok, I kinda dropped out of the V2s info loop a while back after they confirmed the price to be $1750 (above my $1500 or hopefully lower budget), so how is the V2s crippled?

 

Well, the european version appeared to have both DDR2 memory and a 64-bit bus width, giving it only 6.4GB/s of memory bandwith instead of the 20GB/s we were hoping for. It currently performs on par with the 8400M-GS.

 

The V2S is too crippled to worth its price. In Canada, with visaperk discount, the IBM T61 14" is only $1399CAD + tax.

 

Oh, well thats a waste then. It makes me wish for the W3 that much more...