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    Faster - My w3j on order or desktop

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Snakes on a Plane, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. Snakes on a Plane

    Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant

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    Desktop:

    3400+ Clawhammer S754
    1GB Corsair DDR433
    Pny 6800 16/6 @ 350/823

    W3J:

    Standard, 2gb ram

    I preditct gaming performace will be about the same
     
  2. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    Gaming performance may not be the same. The card you've got in the desktop is very good, probably faster than the X1600. Yes, processors are unmatched, but the graphics are almost all the time the bottleneck in games.
     
  3. Snakes on a Plane

    Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant

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    Just to tell you, its not the GT, just an unlocked 6800, but i only get 3045 on 3DMark 05, seems like a glitch
     
  4. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    That seems a bit low. Maybe its because the clocks aren't as high on the card. Games may run at higher fps on the desktop, but since the X1600 has to display smaller resolutions, you may not notice the difference between the desktop and the laptop.
     
  5. Snakes on a Plane

    Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant

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    the more i oc it the more the 3d5 score drops, and its not heat as i upgraded to NV5 silencer + AS5, my friend with a 6800 EVGA gets 4100, but my game performacne is up to par so I don't care
     
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    Zero The Random Guy

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    That is a bit weird. i've heard some other people have this problem, but there actual gameplay, predictibly went up. Yep, seems like 3DMark has a problem.
     
  7. mystery

    mystery Notebook Consultant

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    Well, the desktop will cost you less than half the price from the looks if it... So I'm saying if you dont need to be portable, go with the desktop. You wouldn't wanna be stuck gaming on a 14" screen anyways..

    And the W3J is overpriced for what you get. You can setup a S96J for similar specs for 700$ less.
     
  8. Snakes on a Plane

    Snakes on a Plane Notebook Consultant

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    i have had the desktop for 1 1/2 years now...
     
  9. JPZ

    JPZ Notebook Deity

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    Hey snakes on a plane. I've heard of a similar issue with nVidia graphics cards. It usually involves either one of two things: Either the power supply is not powerful enough, or the user did not plug the graphics card into the power supply as you are supposed to. Since you have an EVGA card, I do not know if that has the second power line, but you should look for it. You need a power supply with a pci-express power cord that should plug into your graphics card in addition to the power coming through the pci-e lane. People have reported extremely low performance when they do not plug in the extra power line.

    When I built my desktop with my ATI x800xl, I forgot to plug this in. When I tried to power up, I had a message on the screen saying that I didn't plug it in. Sadly, only ATI cards, although newer nVidia ones might aswell, will report this. The nVidia's will appear to work, but performance will suck. Sounds to me like you didn't plug it in.
     
  10. mystery

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    Oh, i misread the question. Your laptop will be faster in general tasks because of the faster processor and twice the ram.

    But in games, your desktop will still be considerably faster, even if you're getting similar resolutions..
    Because on your desktop you'll be playing games most likely at 1024x768, while on the W3J you'll play at WXGA(1280x768) whcih is exactly 25% more taxing on fps.
     
  11. Mikeoo17

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    LoL! You can set up a lot of 15.4" notebooks with similar specs for $700 less than the W3J. Try and find a 14.1" with the same build quality! Definitely worth the $$.
     
  12. mystery

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    Practically any Lenovo 14.1" priced at the same price (1700$) will absolutely trash the W3J in terms of build quality AND features. So don't go there.
     
  13. superman23

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    If any kind of gaming performance is desired then Lenovo/Thinkpad isnt even an option
     
  14. ray50000

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    I don't believe you can configure ANY 14'' lenovo to have a x1600 graphics card...
     
  15. Mikeoo17

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    He said that so confidently I almost believed him!!! Hahahaha!!!
     
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    Well my W3J calculated Super Pi faster than my Dual Xeon 3.0ghz powered Dell Precision 470, with 3gb ram and twin 7200rpm HDD's go figure.......
     
  17. mystery

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    He was talking about build quality, dumbass.
     
  18. mystery

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    That's because old Pentium Xeon architecture was really sh!t. Try comparing it with a Conroe X6800 :eek:
     
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    You must have missed the part of his post where he said "build quality AND features"
     
  20. island.vibe

    island.vibe Newbie

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    Aside from the fact that ASUS and Lenovo sell completely different machines designed, for the most part, for completely different purposes, "build quality" is a subjective factor and is not usually directly measurable unless you drop a notebook from each company from an equal height, say 80 feet, and observe the total destruction of each. It appears that someone has, indeed, dropped an ASUS laptop on mystery's toe, because he certainly doesn't seem to like them very much. However, I think we can all agree with him in that Lenovo machines are widely regarded as very "well built". I do not agree, though, that "any given 14.1" Lenovo" will "trash" the W3J in terms of features for the same price, for two main reasons: In the discerning eye of the consumer, style is incredibly important and Lenovo is beaten hands down by ASUS in this regard. The W3J's graphics card, which is a feature, will also beat a similarly spec'd and priced Lenovo provided the user is playing games. If the user desires biometrics, however, he's out of luck with a W3J. For that matter, the cheapest 14.1" Lenovo (correct me if I'm wrong) which best matches the W3J is the Z-Series. When similarly spec'd to a W3J-H026P, the 14.1" Z61-t can be had for $1886, with a smaller battery, no discrete graphics card and no swappable drive bay, among other things. However, all that I have said is largely irrelevant because arguing over "which laptop is best" with regard to Lenovo and the W3J is akin to comparing apples to oranges; this is mostly due to the fact that "being best" depends upon the user's needs, something that all posters should keep in mind when advising others.