G1S cpu problem, possible solution !!

What do you mean who? Instead of talking about it, let's take action and try to hurt their sales in order to make them more efficient, it's our responsibilty as consumers to demand better service and care. Plus, Asus came so close in making an excellent affordable laptop, they are still a great company despite this BIOS issue. If they want consumer feedback for their programming team, then they are going to get it.
I am talking about posting consumer reviews in sites such as cnet, pcmag, newegg among others. I never saw this issue disclosed on those sites before I made the purchase. This problem is very obscure to new buyers.

 

Hmm yeah but I have better things to do with my time than writing reviews for the sole purpose of hurting their sales. Plus, the reviews are sure to come out biased against them if written in this frame of mind they may even be rejected by the websites (if they have a review process).

Some time ago, MysticGolem and CalebSchmerge tried to be a bit more public about the battery wear issue of ASUS (there was a news item and a website), there were also websites of other people on the net, but that didn't help much...

I'm not saying this is hopeless, I'm just saying that it's more difficult to get it to be effective than it might appear. By all means, write a consumer review or opinion and post it on those websites -- I'm sure it is not going to be ineffective.

Personally, I have already invested so much time into these matters (for me, battery wear), that I am sick and tired of writing about it...

 

i've allready tried that but no site gave feedback. Man, if you only use windows just use rmclock and forget about that.

 

I guess it's all about what kind of word usage you use. I will try to do it just to see what happens. Plus, I am not talking about writing long ass reviews...I am talking about writing small reviews indicating the problem so others can look it up on google and find themselves in these old forgotten forums. Imagine all the gamers that are just finding out that their gaming experience is just not what it seems while charging up their batteries. If that fails, I will stick to rmclock.

 

somebody allready done that on youtube, search for asus g1s cpu bug if i remeber right

 

well I suggest use the fix regardless on whether you write the review or not

 

Simply said, if someone has already done that, then why the heck didn't I find a single review commenting on the cpu speed in any of the sites I visited? ...Does rmclock bring it to it's optimal performance level despite low battery charge?

 

Oh wait, hehehe, you are talking about youtube. How do you think I ended up here? That was a very obscure video but I managed to end up here regardless.

 

Yes the RMClock fix restores the computer to its optimal performance level.

The disadvantage is that some thermal protection monitors are disabled -- however people have been running the fix with no issues, so you can assume that you can do so safely, as well.

 

Well, I will wait another month just in case someone doesn't make another thread describing the meltdown of their Asus laptop. Good job in coming up with a fix Adolfo.

 

Wait, do other Laptops have these so called thermal protection monitors? Does the G2s Have them?

 

I'm not sure about the function of these thermal monitors (I would assume either throttle down the CPU if too hot, or shut the computer down completely). They are certainly present on all Intel dual core laptop models with the same, and on other chipsets/CPUs at the very least something equivalent should be present.

Some google/wikipedia research should clarify it for you.

 

Hi Adolfo,

Kudos for finding a workaround. +1 Rep for that.

I have an issue with my G1S-A1 which I think might be related to this BIOS bug.

I ran my 1st 3DMark test with the AC adapter plugged in. At the time I had only disabled the bloatware from loading at startup. The score was 1905.

Then slowly I changed drivers and reached a score of 2742. By that time I had uninstalled most Asus bloatware suggested in the resources thread and the Symantec AV suite. I killed all the visible processes and removed the battery and ran only with the adapter plugged in.

Now I find the result to be below the normal scores people have been getting with their G1S-A1's.

Do you think it could be a BIOS related issue?

The Asus website only says that "BIOS 205 Support bios select item for user can install WinXP."

Has anyone tested the usefulness of this BIOS? It'll be great if you could clarify this matter for me.

Edit:

By the way, I just found that I'm running BIOS version 202. You can check if it's actually 202 or something else.
Click to see my system info screenshot:

 

The Bios shouldn't effect the 3Dmark06 score that much. I'm still running the default one (I think 202 or something similar) and I'm getting like 3800+ in 3DMark06. Make sure Vista is in High Performance mode, as well as your battery is charged above 90%. The only thing the new Bios does is to let you install XP without needing to slipstream special drivers. BTW, the newest drivers are like 169.29

 

@Theros:

As I've mentioned, the latest scores (2742) I got while drawing power only from the adapter. The battery had been removed. However, as I noticed later on, both the Thermal Monitors were enabled in RMClock. Does this affect CPU performance even when battery has been disconnected?

Just for kicks, can you post a screenshot of your sys info page, so we can compare notes?

If there's nothing else to try, apart from BIOS flashing of course, I need to send the laptop in for replacement.

 

Hmm. I have the latest BIOS (205) with 169.04 Drivers on XP and even without this CPU thing, i get 4200+ on 3dmark06. Might be that i have the Hotfix from Microsoft for the Dual Core. Maybe going to XP might help, idk. Thats with using the High Performance battery setting and using 1280x1024 res. :S I recommend upgrading the BIOS no matter what. Getting the latest could help everthing.

 

Finally someone's telling me I'm not groping in the dark.
I know XP is the way to go, but sad part is my copy's is back home in India.
Don't want to buy another one and add to Micro$uck's coffers.

Anyways thanks for corroborating the general view of updating the BIOS.


I have another problem. I have the new BIOS on a USB stick (2GB).
Now I want to flash it using the USB. But the original BIOS won't
detect it in the Easy Flash program. I tried looking around for options
to enable the USB during POST but in vain. Maybe I'm just saturated
in the neurons but I don't seem to be able spot it.

Can someone point it out to me? I know it's real dumb but I'm hanging
by a very thin thread here Heelllllpp.

 

Hmm. Odd. When you plug in the USB device, does it detect it when just running windows? If it doesnt, that might be a problem. If it does detect it though, keep it plugged in and try to restart the PC with it in. I used a SD Card reader and it read it fine, and that was with a USB reader. Maybe if that doesnt work, you could try using a CD and burning it to that to see if that works.

 

The drive did get detected when I used it with Vista.

I followed the little tutorial that E.B.E wrote in some thread about flashing the new BIOS. In that he suggest first reaching the point where you can select the Easy Flash Utility. Then you insert the USB drive and then you go on to the explorer-like view that the utility provides.

In that view I see drives A B C & D. When I select A or B it says insert floppy. C & D, when I navigated there, looked more like the internal HDD partitions.

Does your explorer show more drives when the SD card is inserted?

I will of course try the method you suggested. Thanks anyway.

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Edit:

I think I know where I messed up. I went back and looked at E.B.E's tutorial again.
Seems I overlooked the fact that he suggest inserting the USB first and then rebooting.

My bad. Will try with the USB in slot this time.

 

Hope it works out

 

can anyone help me, i just got a new G1S, and i want to know what should i do to defnely resolve this cpu problem!! can anyone guide me through??? tks

 

Hi,

I've read most of this post and I'm wondering... do all G1S have that problem? Because mine doesn't seem to or else I'm a total newbie (which is totally possible!).
How could I check?

Thanks,

Isumaru: several "answers" can be found earlier in the post or in other ones (try a search)

 

Upgrade to the newest BIOS (205) and it should resolve it.

 

no bios solves the problem, asus just doesn't care. Just use rmclock. See the first post !!

 

so? could anyone please tell me how to check if i am "infected" with that cpu issue?

 

okay can someone explain to me what are we fixing??? i downloaded it and removed the selected and put it on mobile and applied...and i didnt find are changes to my computer.....??? what did i just do?

 

Seriously can you guys read the first post??? There's no INFECTION or crap on your G1s, its just when your battery level falls below 90%, your CPU will downclock drastically below the normal level. However, we believe this is normal but RMclock should fix this problem if you followed the instructions. Sheesh.

 

okay...i knew i shouldn't have used that word...
What i basically meant was: does every G1S has that cpu issue?

 

yes, yes they have, yes !!

 

ok...thanks! now i guess I'll have to start worry then
i didn't notice any bad performences...maybe it's because my previous laptop was an oldie..

 

lol adolf, just refer them to the resource thread, it has your screen shots and everything

all cpus when battery life is less then abt 90% drops 50% performance WHEN CHARGING. Most likely to avoid heat problems. You wont notice anything if you are always plugged in, or if do adolf's solution which aparently works good.

and btw, newest bios is 300 not 205

 

doing this does not seems to work for me, the rmclock still shows 1.20 on the tray bar... eventually it shows 2.2ghz... is this correct???

 

Seems like everytime i try to o/c to 2400mhz my display driver crashes during the 2nd test on 3dmark06.
Tried o/c'ing with SetFSB 2.0.b
BIOS ver. 300
Any ideas what it could be?

 

2398 is my stable max on the T7500 which has 2194 default. That is a oc from 399 to 460 on the SetFSB.

i would run it at 2333 mhz, 440 for a nice oc with no problems at all
Other then that i cant help ya