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    G1S getting hot : what about yours ?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by emppapy, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    My G1S is getting really hot when I play games. Sometimes the GPU temperature reaches 105°c !
    I already posted about this issue but it seems that I'm not the only one concerned.
    Consequently, I created to poll to see whether it is hardly affecting G1S computers or it is a widespread issue.

    I am really concerned about this issue because it seems that the G1S is the only notebook to get that hot :eek:
     
  2. Hai1242

    Hai1242 Notebook Geek

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    106 C i think is top. This GPU can get to 120 C before problems, so it probably doesnt matter.
     
  3. fore

    fore Notebook Consultant

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    where can I check what temperature does my notebook reaches, I have a g2s should be in a similiar, if not the same, place as g1s
     
  4. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    Hai1242 --> problem is that above some temp (100°c, 110°c ? I don't know), the GPU automatically "underclocks". Thus one can notice a decrease in performance.

    Fore --> use Ntune (Nvidia monitor) or Rivatuner.
     
  5. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    And by the way Zalman notebook cooler ZM-NC1000 is no help for me :( I still reach 100°c with fans at full speed !
    I don't know whether it is working well or not ... I can feel some air but nothing really powerful.

    I read on the forum that this cooler actually reduced ingame temperature by 15-20°c ! I am faaaar from it (104°c when I turned the cooler off --> that makes 4°c difference).

    Now I'm at a loss what to do ! I already sent the computer back to Asus and they reportedly change motherboard, graphic card and reajusted fan.
    What else can I do ?
    I'm just afraid of damage to components which may cause me trouble when the warranty is over ...
     
  6. Hai1242

    Hai1242 Notebook Geek

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    Maybe it depends what game you are playing? I'll try bioshock later and let you know how hot mine gets since it's DX10. Then I'll try WoW but i'm pretty sure i've seen mine in the 100's before. Will post it tonight.
     
  7. ozguy

    ozguy Newbie

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    It typically goes between 90-100C, which compared to my desktop is hella hot. I had an overheating problem with that same desktop PALIT 7900GT, and replaced the heatsink/fan with a Zalman and it worked like a charm.

    I to have some concerns over this notebooks temperature, it does seem somewhat excessive. I don't know how much temp the mobile chips can stand however.
     
  8. minj

    minj Notebook Consultant

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    ok at least its not just me...the zalmans not doing much of anything to the gpu of cpu temp on my g1s....my temps get to 96 max so far in COH and CS:S and BF2 with max settings on everything
     
  9. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    Alright thanks for your answers. I sent an email to Asus and I'm now waiting for them to reply.
    But keep posting because it is quite interesting !
    Results of the poll are rather balanced, which reveals a discrepancy between our notebooks.
     
  10. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    I made further tests and it seems that my GPU won't go above 106°c.
    I ran RivaTuner and monitored core temperature and framerate. First of all I wanted to see whether there would be a drop in performance when temperature reaches high levels.
    So I launched a battle in Medieval total war II, blocked the camera and waited.
    The temperature raised slowly (from 62 to 106°c in 20 minutes) and it reached 106°c, the fan went louder and temperature fell to 102-103°c. Then it went up again and stopped at 106°c. Yet framerate kept steady during the whole test, so 106°c might not be a critical temp.

    However, I'm still wondering why the fan doesn't "do his job" until the card is 106°c ...
    Can I configure it somewhere ?

    Thanks for advice !
     
  11. sluzi26

    sluzi26 Notebook Geek

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    This has been beaten to death guys. The G1S, Specifically the 8600 series, runs hot as hell. Nothing you can do to change it. The comp comes with AS5 already applied. It's practically a Desktop Replacement in a 15" package with that 256 bit DDR3 8600M in it. It's gonna heat up.
     
  12. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    Well this subject has been very much talked about, you make a point. The G1S is very hot and GPU gets above 80°c which is normal as you say.
    Still, I can't figure out why I can reach 106°c whereas many just don't go over 90°c. Can you ?
     
  13. orbitalxp

    orbitalxp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think that people "below 80" and "between 80 and 90" haven't see that we speak about the INGAME temperature.

    The 8600M GT is at 78-79°c on IDLE, it's impossible that GPU don't reach 90°C minimum in game (in Tetris, maybe.)
     
  14. fore

    fore Notebook Consultant

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    emppapy I can't find the Ntune or the rivatuner in the laptop. do I have to download them? or do they come installed already?
     
  15. KiwiBoy

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    Anyone able to confirm this?

    Fore: Ntune can be downloaded from Nvidia's site. Both Ntune and Rivatuner can be found by using google.
     
  16. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe a part of them.. But still, above 100°c is really high. Even an Asus tech told me so. He also told me to send my lappy back to them (but I won't because I just did two weeks ago :eek: )
     
  17. soyouz

    soyouz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys, my first time here, i come from France, french website www.laptopspirit.fr.

    As G1S is concerned, things are very simple. You have a 15.4 laptop with desktop's performances ( i compared in 3DMark06, DELL desktop E6600, 8600GT 256 mo , 2 GO RAM with the G1S, 4600 for the first and 3900 for the second). But in the 15.4, especialy our Asus G1S, you have only one fan et also one heat pipe. So when you mesure 74° in idle, in fact the pipe is already heat by the C2D. In FULL LOAD, both heat the pipe and increase the temperature in theirs own cores and the fan works for both.

    FOr exemple in TOshiba X200, i have heard 8700GT never exceeds 55 in idle and 65 in FULL LOAD. In fact, it has the CPU on the left ( or right) and the GPU on the right ( or left), so it has 2 fans and 2 pipes, they are not in contact.

    I think your tech from Asus sucks, he can not do anything, we all have the same probleme, the laptop was designed like that.


    Judging by my experience with 6800gt for a desktop, with original Nvidia's cooler, I reached also 90-95° under FEAR ( after i changed for NVSilencer ) and the limite of the GPU was 110°, it means all Nvidia's can take a lot.

    I think you must enjoy the laptop and don't care about this, because you have a 2 years warranty, and less than in 2 years you won't be able run any new gen DirectX10 game. ;) . SO let's play and if it is broken ( of course without overclocking ) , it's the Asus probleme, they will change it.

    My temperature
    Idle
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    Full Load ( under 3DMark06 )
    [​IMG]
     
  18. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    Merci pour ton explication soyouz ;)
    Thanks for explaining ! I'm only concerned about the fact that the laptop might suffer damage when the 2 years warranty is over but I can't do anything about it so I have no choice but to trust you and Asus.
    Anyway my temps are the same as yours, this is encouraging ;)
     
  19. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    Oh my. I don't know, mine's at 70-73 idle (always, same clocks as yours) and max 85 after playing like four hours of F.E.A.R. on high settings .. Don't know.
    By the way, I think just because the video chip can withstand 106 degrees doesn't mean the components around that chip won't be damaged by the heat. Doesn't help if it melts the board but doesn't suffer any internal damage.
     
  20. soyouz

    soyouz Notebook Enthusiast

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    When I live FEAR and run RivaTuner, I have also 85° but in the game things are different so where are your sceenshots ? :)
     
  21. minj

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    bf2, cs:s, and COH always gets my gpu to 96C

    except lately....its cool down quite about bit outside and my temps have dropped a few degrees....but i still worry that there will be damage caused by the heat.
     
  22. emppapy

    emppapy Notebook Consultant

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    85 degrees when you leave the game and look at the temp ? If so, then it is normal because temperature drops very quickly when you stop a game.
    I'm rather interested in the peak temperature (that you can see if you log temperatures with a software like RivaTuner for instance).
     
  23. min2209

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    Ah, that's a very good point. Never thought of that. It does seem to drop temperature even when I just alt-tab out of the game. The logged peak was about 98 degrees. I guess this card runs a lot hotter than I thought it would.
     
  24. osomphane

    osomphane Notebook Evangelist

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    If you have a zalman nc1000 cooler, set its fan on medium cause if its high the laptop cooler won't turn on (I think). Also, position the laptop to the front so that the gpu is right above the fans.
     
  25. min2209

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    Where is the GPU? Dead center? The memory compartment gets hot too..
     
  26. KiwiBoy

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    The CPU & GPU is located at the top left corner, where the air vent is. Memory is under the middle of the keyboard. Last but not least is the hard drive which is under the right side of the keyboard.
     
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    Maybe try RMclock. According to RMclock my idle temp is 62C after I've undervolted .2v~ not sure about my gaming temps quite yet.
     
  28. fore

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    need a little help please
    I want to now the temp fo me g2s, so I downloaded and installed the rivatuner but I don't now what to do now?
    do you know?
     
  29. emppapy

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    Sure, just click on Customize in the Target adaptater area, and then click the Hardware monitoring button.
     
  30. fore

    fore Notebook Consultant

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    thanks alot emppapy
    have a 67 core temp just be listing to music and writing here hope is a good temp