G1S-B1 vs. M50Sa-AK023C

Hey all,

While browsing Newegg.com for my new laptop, I have come to a stuck point. First I found the ASUS G1S-B1, and I was sold. I actually was just about to purchase that machine when I stumbled upon the ASUS M50Sa-AK023C. Being that the M50Sa is relatively new, there are no reviews on this particular setup. I am fairly computer savvy, however I cannot seem to figure this one out.

The different specs for the two machines can be found on Newegg's site, so I will not waste my time re-typing them here. My main questions revolve around the CPU, Video Card, and HDD. The M50Sa seems to have better components than the G1S-B1 for each of these categories, yet it is priced lower. I understand that although the 500gb HDD is larger, it is also only 5400rpm; versus the 200gb 7200rpm in the G1S.

So, if anyone can offer some help in my dillema... I can't understand why a machine with 2xHDD space, newer/faster CPU and Video Card, and 2x the RAM (4Gb vs. 2Gb) would be priced lower than the older (yet highly rated) G1S-B1.

Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this situation!!!

 

The HD 3650 is roughly the 8600M-GT GDDR3 in the G1S, so that's hard to explain. However, the G1S is aimed at the gaming market, and has an MXM compatible card.....and looks much cooler.

 

Thank you for a quick reply!

The M50Sa actually has the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 with a listed 1gb (1024mb) of dedicated memory. Comparing this to the 8600 GT with only 256mb is where I get lost. I know that the memory is not everything... pipelines, shaders, etc. play into it as well... but it seems that 1gb is a considerable jump from 256mb. I cannot find any reviews on the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 as of yet. Any thoughts?

Also, to add to my first post... Which laptop will offer the best deal for the price? (I am a heavy gamer, will be traveling quite a bit, and also need to be able to do all the business side stuff as well.)

Thanks!

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220306

this one right?

Ya the 500 gb hd is going to be faster and larger than the 7200 rpm 200 gb one

I dont think anyone on notebookreview has seen a notebook with a ati 3650, but you can assume its a lot like an ati 2600 which would make it inferior to the 8600 gt but in the same class.

Im not really sure which is a better deal I really like getting the 500 gb hd in the m50 I think thats a big plus on its side

 

Go with the m50sa on sheer looks alone. No offence to those who have it but the g1s looks like a toy. Green glowing lights in a business meeting doesn't scream professional in my opinion. I saw it at best buy ... stayed away from it. BUT, it is a great laptop for performance.

You also might want to consider the M1530. I OC'd that GPU to 5300+ on 3dmark06. People have gone further with better processors.

 

Yep... that's the one stamar.

You say that the 500gb HDD @ 5400rpm would be faster than the 200gb @7200rpm... how? Please explain...

 

DRTH_STI

For some reason I just can't bring myself to get a Dell. Maybe it's the higher price. Maybe the fact that they just look kinda big to me. Or maybe it's the re-accuring nightmare of that guy following me around saying, "Dude! You Got A Dell!!!"

Anyway, I am pretty sold on the ASUS brand. It seems like I can get a quality product at a lower price. I agree that the green does not mesh well with the "business" atmosphere that I will be using this in from time to time. The main thing for me right now, however, is simply getting the best, most future-proof components for the lowest price. (still maintaining quality of course) So looks are a factor, but not as much as performance. I would like to know simply which machine will run faster, smoother, and longer...

 

ok for thoroughput numbers not random access the comparison is pretty simple.

200 /500 gb =2.5 so theres 2.5 times as much data in the 500 gb one per spin


7200 / 5400 1.333 so it spins 1 1/3 times as fast

2.5 is significantly more than 1.3 so each second its going the larger one is transfering more data.

 

Ok... that makes sense. Thank you.

So for gaming, the story that you have to have faster RPM is not always true?

 

no its not always true there are some tests the 7200 rpm 200 gb one will be faster though because it is actually smaller and spins faster the access time will be less.

But the loading of a large game is going to be faster on the larger hd.

And the key component is that larger is always larger, so it will have more open space in real life usage making it almost certainly faster.

 

well that machine actually has two components no one at nbr has seen theyre brand new a ati 3650 and a samsung 500 gb 5400 rpm hd.

So Its sort of cutting edge.

 

The might be the Hitachi or Toshiba, <- not sure because the m70 supports the 12.5mm height as well as the 9.5mm. The Samsung came in at 9.5 the other is a 12.5 height.

I would guess the m50 would be the same.

 

The M50Sa will have the larger HDD and more ram, plus I think the video card will be better than the 8600gt especially once overclocked.

Plus I dont think I could use a G series notebook in public and feel ok about it, they look way to kiddy to me.

 

fast one. M50 is made in china G1s made in taiwan. Built quality / workmanship made in taiwan > made in china

 

Anyone have any input on the T7700 (2.4ghz) vs. the T9300 (2.5ghz)? Is there going to be any noticeable difference between the two?

 

T9300 will perform only slightly faster (a few percent here and there) than the T7700 (merom) on most every day applications. The big difference is battery life. The T9300 (penryn) will give you about 5-15% more battery life. There's one thing where penryn DESTROYS merom and that's in applications that support SSE4 instructions such as video encoders. Penryn performs ~40% faster in video encoding. All of these comparisons are for the same frequency (e.g. 2.6Ghz merom vs. 2.6Ghz penryn).

Hope that clears it up for you.

 

That's excellent... Thank you! I am thinking that the M50 is the better choice in this situation. Larger HDD, more RAM, faster CPU, Better looking (for some), and it offers a FINGERPRINT READER!!!! LOL.

 

Honestly the M50Sa is the better deal.


I just bought myself an M50SV-B1 notebook at 1399dlrs, but just by looking at it, you are getting a better CPU, Better and larger HDD, Better Video card and overal a newer cutting edge product than the G1.

I think its a no brainer. Go for the M50sa. I know I would, If I hadnt already bought my own M50sv heh.

 

One other difference that hasn't specifically been noted....the penryn processors should run cooler. I know my M50Sv doesn't generate much heat at all for being as powerful as it is.

One other thought, I prefer the Sv as I like the WXGA+ screen. Anything with higher resolution would be too small for these old eyes.

 

Reading the threads in this forum have helped me so much in my search for the perfect laptop, thanks to everyone for that. I have quick question regarding a dilemma between the M50Sa-X1 and the M50Sa-AK023C.
All the same specs except that the AK023C has a much higher resolution and double the HD size. My primary use of the machine will be schoolwork, however I will game sometimes and movies will be very important for travel and as my tv in my dorm. So. the HD space is not so important. Im not at all rolling in cash, and the $250 difference is big for me, so my question is: How much better is a 1680x1050 than a 1200x800 and is the difference worth $250? I love HD quality, but will the really high def just be going over the top?
Thanks...

 

wxga is still hd resolution. wsxga is just a waste of money. go for wsxga if your laptop has a blu-ray drive

 

Personally I would go for WXGA as well, I prefer having a smaller resolution, rather than having to increase DPI sizes afterwards to be able to actually read what is written on that screen. But I know many other people won't, most like higher resolutions.

 

Two factors i consider is gaming style and lcd quality.

Other than needing to change DPI settings/icon settings for wsxga+, I think it also depends on what games you play. If you play games such as CS 1.6 or other games that are not as demanding then you can get wsxga+ and play at that resolution and it will be have great picture quality and if you need to play those demanding games where wsxga+ doesnt cut it you can always lower resolution and play at wxga. Even though you are not playing at its native resolution, its still cool you can go either or. However with WXGA lcd screen, you wont need to change any settings and you'll be able to use the notebook and play games or what not at native resolution so you know you will get optimal resolution from your lcd. Also, like someone stated earlier you can watch 720p movies on wxga.

To me i dont care out of the two since I can always adjust it the way i just mentioned.

What really bugs me is second factor which to me is quality. LCD is manufactured by different companies and from what I've read from online research:

The WXGA+ screen thats in the MS05V-A1 is manufactured by AUO (AU02277 model) and some of those screens have graininess and/or light leakage and not that good so hope you get the good ones if there are any because i read a post where a guy bought 3 of them at once and they all sucked.

For, WXGA screens that is on the MS05A-X1, they are either AUO or CMO. If you get the CMO (model CMO1541) youre in good shape. They make great lcds. AUO then like i said luck of the draw.

For the WSXGA+ thats on the MS05A-AK0023, i believe only CMO makes them (CMO1523 ) and i hear these are one of the best in industry at that resolution.

Please take look at url: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/918370.html

This is why i chose the MS05A-AK0023 (wsxga+/ati).

Good luck i know its a tough choice since a notebook isnt something you buy everyday so you would want most out of your gas money. : )