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    G1s Overheating problem

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by darewinder, Jun 4, 2008.

  1. darewinder

    darewinder Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know that alot of people have the same problem but I am starting to worry that mine is alot worse than yours. Ill give you guys temps you guys let me know what you think.

    Idle:

    cpu: 60-65 c
    gpu: 70-75 c
    hdd: 52-55 c

    After 3 hrs of gaming (TF2, AC or others)

    cpu: 85-92 c (most of the time its 90+)
    gpu: 90-100 c (ive seen it hit 102)
    hdd: 60 c

    All temps are taken with speedfan. No OC at all. Ambient is around 20-25 c
    Using Win Xp sp2 with the driver pack. Also my HDD is upgraded, its the 7200 rpm one from gentech.

    I do experience heavy lag after 30 min of gaming. my frame rate drops from 100s to 20-30s (AC becomes unplayable :/)

    What should I do? Contact Asus support?

    Thank you for your time!

    note: the screen is idle temps
     

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  2. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    If you are overheating... usually any temp over 90C degrees is bad.

    when was the last time that you cleaned out the fans and vents thoroughly...?

    if never, then thats why.

    1) remove battery
    2) remove/unscrew the panels on the bottom of the notebook to get to fans and vents ( if possible, if not its okay.. skip step 5)
    3) use flashlight to look through vents for the dust (if you cant see the light on the other end, then the vents are clogged up)
    4) go outside, get some compressed air (cans or compressor @ 50 PSI) and give the vents a good airing out all directions ( concentrating on the vents)
    .... you might want to brace the fan blade(s) when airing it out (with a toothpick or paperclip to prevent it from spinning out too much)
    .... or use short bursts (1-2 secs) of air instead of bracing the fans.
    5) go get some Q-tips and swab the fan blades and the area around it
    6) then go do a second airing with compressed air (all directions again focusing on the fans and vents) to push out the dust that was dislodged from the Q-tips

    7*) Now go use the flashlight again and look through the vents (shine the flashlight from the fan, you look through the other end) for anymore dust clogs.

    8) Then start up the notebook... and let the fans cycle up (use the Fan Toggle at max speed if your system has it) to push out any other dust that might have been stuck.

    If all goes well you should be able to close up the notebook and...

    you're done.

    *repeat this step until its cleaned out.

    Thats pretty much it. :)

    Just make sure to do this every two-three months... it should take about 15-20min per cleaning if you want to be thorough.
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    Gaming notebooks are a new thing, you must realize that you have to take some extra care of them over typical use notebooks:

    1) Battery: to maintain the longevity of any rechargeable battery
    - you must NEVER overcharge it [especially for long durations of time while it still be in use] by keeping it plugged into AC
    - remember to give a full charge cycle (discharge it under 50% and charge it back to full) once a week if you constantly leave it plugged in.
    - OR you can just charge it to 50%+ and remove the battery and store in cool dry place.. not the fridge [remember to use it occasionally 3-4 time a year to charge and discharge it].

    2.) Heat: to prevent a healthy notebook from overheating
    - ALWAYS use the notebook on a clean, hard & flat surface
    - NEVER use on soft surfaces (laps, beds, couch, etc.) that can block the fans on the bottom
    - RECOMMENDED to be used on a notebook cooler... namely the Zalman ZM-NC1000 or ZM-NC2000
    - check your fans underneath occasionally (at least once a month or two) for any dust clogs [clean them out with Q-tips and air cans/compressors]
    - ALWAYS monitor the temps (CPU, GPU, HDD, etc..) to watch for fluctuations, which would indicate overheating by dust usually

    By doing these simple things, your entire system will easily last for more than 3 years.
     
  3. Oldman

    Oldman Notebook Evangelist

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    I think idle temperatures are unreasonably high.
    I am under impression that you somehow ‘tweaked’ cooling fan settings and now fan doesn’t do the job.
     
  4. CruXii

    CruXii Notebook Guru

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    Exactly the same as my G1s... Do you also get a crappy 3dmark06 score?
     
  5. bigepilot

    bigepilot Notebook Evangelist

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    this with the 8600 or 9500?
     
  6. Ellissar

    Ellissar Notebook Guru

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    Yup, same as my g1s-a1. I've never cleaned out the inside (haven't popped open the hood ever, actually) and I've had it for 8 months. The maximum my video card ever reached was 103 C, but it usually only goes up 95+ for a couple seconds, after which the fans kick in, bringing it down to 80-90 C. I use HWMonitor, which saves the maximum and minimum sensor temperatures.
     
  7. Ellissar

    Ellissar Notebook Guru

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    Oh, I've also monitored my video card clocks with gpu-z during the whole process and there was no downclocking. I was able to maintain the temp at around 100 C using an extremely graphics intensive app and nothing was happening, so I just assumed the video card was made to handle the heat (I have an 8600m GT, as the model g1s-a1 implies).
     
  8. darewinder

    darewinder Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not that I know of. The fan is always FULLY ON whenever I launch up a game. When Idle it fluctuates between fully on and normal

    My 3dmark06 was normal when I first got my laptop, Ill test it again

    Thanks for the informative write up. Ill try this as soon as I get some dust off and a screw driver. I only have to clean the cpu fan right. (That is the only fan in g1s as far as I know)

    its G1s-A1 (8600m GT)
     
  9. Predator_MF

    Predator_MF Notebook Evangelist

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    You should clean it, mine was already filled with dust on the second month, and I only work with it on the table. The sinks are collecting much dust no matter how you use it
     
  10. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    clean out all vents... those are main culprits for dust clogs.
     
  11. CruXii

    CruXii Notebook Guru

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    In my case it's not the vents though, I've barely had my laptop for 2 weeks, and it's been on my desk most of the time.
     
  12. Predator_MF

    Predator_MF Notebook Evangelist

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    We've discussed this alot lately, the G-series main drawback is they heat alot, mine was hitting 102 (after few hours of Assassins Creed) when I bought it, so I replaced the thermal paste both on CPU and GPU with Arctic Cooling MX-2 and temps are now not going higher than 90C (most of the time). The bad is you would void your warranty. The other tip is to make a case mod (drilling few holes thru the plate that's above the fan and CPU. Visit the ASUS infobooth for more details.
     
  13. CruXii

    CruXii Notebook Guru

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    Can you order this cooling paste from the net somewhere in europe? I doubt I'll be able to find it here in Salzburg...
     
  14. Predator_MF

    Predator_MF Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, Bulgaria is in Europe :D I've got mine from here (had to wait 3 days for the dealers to deliver from somewhere outside my country), but Yes, it's available in Europe. Some suggest that "Arctic Silver 5" would do the same, but I doubt that. There're some comparison graphs in the net that show Arctic Cooling MX-2 is slightly better.
     
  15. Ellissar

    Ellissar Notebook Guru

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    Thanks a lot for the help, guys. I actually plan to sell my g1s to my brother before I leave for Europe since I won't need it there and plan to buy one with montevina and a better video card when I get back (will need it for graphics programming, etc.). I just don't want him to have any problems. Also, there are still 4 months left on the warranty so I don't want to do anything that would void it... It's in the repair shop because of the sound card right now, and I think I'll mention the heat problems to them (even though it was supposed to return today... >_<).
     
  16. lord_neno

    lord_neno Notebook Evangelist

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    predator_MF, can you tell how to dissamble an g1s to change the GPU thermal paste?.

    I have changed the thermal paste of cpu, and made some mods, but i can´t full dissamble the g1s :_
     
  17. Predator_MF

    Predator_MF Notebook Evangelist

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    Just out of curoisity, do ay of you guys have a photo of the G1s GPU heatsink. I'd like to conpare it to the one in my Zepto, see if that is why we are all getting a very hot GPU (mine hits 95C when gaming).
     
  19. Folker_92

    Folker_92 Notebook Geek

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    I gave my G1S back to the shop, and got my money back, because due to overheating, my MB "melted"
     
  20. lord_neno

    lord_neno Notebook Evangelist

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    i have tryed drivers 175.70 in 32bits and idle temps were 70C, but with 175.70 in vista 64bits are 63C
     
  21. andygb40

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    I only get an idle temp that high when I install drivers where powermizer isn't working correctly. (The manufacturer's ones-Zepto) Otherwise I sit aroung the 52-55C mark. Don't forget I have a crap cooling system in this notebook. The fins for the GPU heatsink are only about 1.5cm wide and about 6 of them.
     
  22. lord_neno

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    I see that the Graphic card works on "PERFORMANCE 3D" al the time... in windows, in games, in excel, with iexplorer...