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    G2S-A1 Benchmark and photos

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by GenTechPC, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Blazzter

    Blazzter Notebook Guru

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    so g1s actually is better at low resolutions...1064x768.. thats sad
    this beauty and Big G2S should own G1S..
    plus no tuner hmm
     
  2. fore

    fore Notebook Consultant

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    why does gen tech sells the g2s so cheap comparing it to other web sites?
    what is the lowest amount I can buy the g2s?
     
  3. Instrument Mechanic

    Instrument Mechanic Notebook Guru

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    $1999.00 at BTO, $1999.00 at XoticPC if you pay cash... others are 2049.00, 2099.00, and I think someone has it for 2199.00, although maybe that was in Canada (CDN). THere is a good thread that has all the top Asus dealers, but many are not listing the G2s yet.

    THat does not matter since they are not really out, or atleast all the vendors I called ahve not recieved tham yet...
     
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    shweet. Problem solved. Didnt know they had expresscard TV tuners. Its making me wish they had 1900X1200 in 15.4". But the 17" Will do. I think this model is looking like my future notebook, gonna wait till it hits 1800 :D Maybe soon :D
     
  6. mikeymike

    mikeymike Notebook Evangelist

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    heres something thats interesting....
    I just discovered the G2 has a IrDA port !!!!!!

    [​IMG]

    I dont have a crackberry or other PDA so im gonna have to explore this
    hmmmmmmmmmm......
     
  7. raikay

    raikay Notebook Consultant

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    Hello all this is gona be my first post here. Wonderful forums and amazing responses from all of you. Keep it up :)

    Question?
    On new egg under specs for both G2S and G1S it states this:
    ASUS G Series G1S-A1
    Video Memory 256MB GDDR3 VRAM, TurboCache up to 512MB

    ASUS G Series G2S-A1
    Video Memory 256MB GDDR3 VRAM

    Do you guys know whether G2S-A1 supports same Turbo Memory feature that the G1S-A1 does?
    Thanks.
     
  8. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    Yes and that was suppose to work with remote control with TV-Tuner. :)
     
  9. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    TurboCache can go up to 768MB on G1S, G2S and F3SV:

    [​IMG]
     
  10. raikay

    raikay Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you GentechPc for a quick reply. Here are few more questions...

    1) Does G2S-A1 come with a glossy finish?
    2) Does Mouse pad has a textured dotted feature?
    Thanks
     
  11. Blazzter

    Blazzter Notebook Guru

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    Gentech, are u going to make a Review for the G2S ?
    Do u think the G1S got 4740 while G2S got 4470 points on 3dMark06 becouse u used the G1S with an upgrade (Seagate Momentus 7200.2RPM),
    post here the FPS of BF2 (on G2S) like u did on the G1S thread, so we can compare with more accuracy whats really going on

    :)
     
  12. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    the 30 points spread in 3dmark is not due to anything. Thats an identical score. scores on the same notebook can fluctuate by as much as 100 points from loop to loop. Those are identical scores.
     
  13. MrWhereItsAt

    MrWhereItsAt Notebook Evangelist

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    The difference is more like 300 than 30 though. Admittedly, that's not too far off an insignificant difference, but it does appear to be more than the noise level.
     
  14. Instrument Mechanic

    Instrument Mechanic Notebook Guru

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    So are the numbers a typographical error? Because there is a greater difference than 30 points

    G1s 4740
    G2s - 4470
    -------
    270

    Perhaps the difference is due to first run models, these units were just released... Is that even possible?
     
  15. Blazzter

    Blazzter Notebook Guru

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    lets wait and see gentech, tests so we can have Real facts to talk about

    ps:Is the BF2 problem Solved? i mean the G2S uses a refresh rate of 62Hz,
    odd, and gentech is still working on, so my question is:
    Is that ok ? becouse i dont want to have to Configure and search all around and get headaches just to find a way to make the games accept the 62Hz from G2S to function properly,(if its a gamer laptop, why is it giving us Work to configure games?? ) i have had troubles with that before

    Dont get me wrong, i just want to make sure of what kind of Laptop im really put my money on,
    thx again ^^

    edit: (if you dont know, some games doesn´t accept 62Hz so they wont work at G2S unless ur a geek or have time to research and work on it)
     
  16. Geared2play.com

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    under labaratory conditions where such things like background process drivers and other factors that can change a 3dmark scores both units would be very closely matched. on my own g1 test models i saw the score vary by almost 100 points. the 300 point spread is not indicative of anything but the fact that the tests were not conducted under lab conditions. They really dont have to be. You should always allow atleast 100 points spread when comparing 3dmark results on the same model by different people, not to mention 2 completely different models with the same specs. You guys are finding pennies in a bucket here. its not worth thinking about really. the spread can be attributed to any number of different software differences. even changing the brand of ram can have an impact on scores. Very little but it all adds up.
     
  17. mikeymike

    mikeymike Notebook Evangelist

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    My thoughts exactly. If im right GenTech may be testing machines right out of the box and he may not have deleted the bloatware, anti virus, or other software and drivers that may be running when he did those 3dmark scores.
     
  18. mikeymike

    mikeymike Notebook Evangelist

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    Well well well......... This just brings up a whole pile of new issues !!!!!!!!

    Good ones of course!!...
    This opens a entire new door of possibilities for the G2p/G2S thats not advertised.
    Being able to transfer data wirelessly via IrDA port for PDA's, cell phones, digital cameras, printers will definitely have to be explored.

    The connectivity of this machine keeps getting better [​IMG]
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  19. goggles

    goggles Notebook Geek

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    How thick is the G2S-A1?
    On the Asus site it reads 0.18" which I'm pretty sure it ain't right and I think they mean 1.8".

    I presume it's the same as the G2 which is 2.63" from a review I read here:
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3462&review=Asus+G2P

    Asus' site lists the G2 normal as 1.8" which I believe the G2S-A1 is the same?

    This will basically determine which to get between the G1S and the G2S for me.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  20. nightfox91

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    I'm pretty sure its 1.8"
     
  21. AlexOnFyre

    AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer

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    The two machines are identical aside from the screens. The G2S has better cooling, which will give you about 5 FPS maximum increase in any real world application (Guessing, obviously, there is no equation that equals FPS really. Screens per second, maybe, but FPS for any given game, not really). The G2S is basically for those who don't want to buy an external monitor and don't care about portability (I fall into this category, but I am starting to think I care about portability more than I thought).
     
  22. goggles

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    I like how the connections are on the G2S, the DVD on the right side and the network and audio connections on the left side. I like the screen size and the resolution and the specs are the same as the G1S.

    However it's like almost 4lbs heavier and and slightly larger in the size department. If the thickness is slightly more than the G1S, I might just settle for the G2S. But I do love the black carbon fibre look of the G1S, and it's a little smaller than the Acer size notebooks.

    I dunno, I can't make up my mind :confused:
     
  23. mikeymike

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    its 1.8 at the back of the G2S and its 1/16th inch shallower at front of laptop
     
  24. mikeymike

    mikeymike Notebook Evangelist

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    Well the screens are not quite identical either. My motivation to look at the G2 initially was due to a friend having a G1. That screen impressed me quite a bit and that sparked me to want to look at the Asus 17" lineup of laptops.
    Ive had the G1 and G2 side by side and the G2P's screen is definitely more vibrant, better color, better contrast and overall brighter than the G1. And its more than just measurable as its differences are visible. Its not huge but theres a difference.
    The G2S is gonna be just as brilliant if not better. Resolution is secondary to me so im just waiting for a phone call to go compare it myself with my current G2




    i too perfer connectivity to the left. Usb, EVDO Expresscard modem, headphones.
    I perfer to use a mouse when i work and the right side of the laptop is free from attachments and cords.

    And its almost exactly 3lbs heavier 6.8 vs 9.8 give or take an ounce. 3lbs is a significant amt and a diff will be felt once you walk 100yrds+
     
  25. GenTechPC

    GenTechPC Company Representative

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    1: Yes, G2S-A1 has glossy screen.
    2: The touchpad has textured dotted feature.
     
  26. PR0DiGY

    PR0DiGY Notebook Consultant

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    Macbook PRO does better.
     
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    ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 (Dedicated)? I don't think so. :)
     
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    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    Macbook pro has a 8600M GT in 128MB and 256 MB variants.
     
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    I didn't provide link

    The forum does that automatically when you type in keywords like

    macbook


    Even though they are the same cards.. macbook gets higher score, check the mac forum there are a few benchmark threads in there
     
  31. GenTechPC

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    Sorry, yes the link was from the forum.
    but still, MacBookPro 1680 x 1050 pixels vs G2S 1920x1200, MacBookPro MSRP $2,799.00 vs G2S MSRP $2099, that's $700 difference. no comparison.
     
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    Both are really good, I was gonna go with G1s but decided to get MBP.
     
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    fabarati Frorum Obfuscator

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    The Macbook Pro has that card in the 15,4 inch as well (like the G1s). And it's über-light.
     
  34. fore

    fore Notebook Consultant

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    in the MBP you pay the diference basicly for the apple software (leopard I think is the new one) cuz if you compare the g1s or g2s with MBP their are almost the same
     
  35. AlexOnFyre

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    leopard is just like vista
     
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    leopard is not out yet...
     
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    The video demo is
     
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    So ? will it work well with a 62hz refresh rate?
    wheres the BF2 FPS screens ?

    Thx in advance ^^
     
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    force screen to 60Hz? powerstrip anyone?
    my v6j can do 100hz :D
     
  40. Blazzter

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    seriosly, is the 62hz a problem for games?
    if the resolution of G2S is 1900x1200, will it stretch or stay ugly if we use it
    as 1024x768 or 1280x1024??

    need to know that b4 order =)
     
  41. AlexOnFyre

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    it will be blurry, If the resolution for your monitor is say 1280x1024, reduce it to 1024x768. Then you will see the blur, and you can decide for yourself. Inside the games you won't notice too much, AA will dip off some and your targeting reticles and logos and things will be big, but it won't be really ugly. Lower than native makes menu screens and Windows itself look blurry and muddy, but in game graphics are not nearly as badly effected.

    EDIT: I took a couple of screenies in a game using multiple res's, I realised I don't have any image hosting services, so I can't put them up, but if someone who does would like to have them, you can see.
     
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    Keeping the aspect ration helps alot as well. scaling down from 1680x1050 to 1440x900 and keeping the 16:10 aspect ratio will look better than scaling down to 1280x1024 (5:4), even though it's a slightly higher resolution.
     
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    I have a question about the G2S.

    What kind of a difference will it make if I get it with 3 or 4 GB of RAM instead of the default 2 GB??? I mean will I see any real improvement in performance?

    I have seen somewhere comments that actually getting the laptop with 3 GB of RAM could damage the performance - is that true???
     
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    Upgrading RAM is probably the most cost effective way to increase the performance of a laptop. Going from 2-3 will likely almost double your performance (as has been shown with the G1S). 3-4 won't do much, unless you are using a 64-bit OS, which would penalise your performance anyway, since most (if not all current) games have not been properly compiled to run on a 64-bit OS.

    I don't understand how upgrading the RAM could ever damage your performance... links?
     
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    Upgrading from 2-4 as said above in 32 bit os will only let you use 3gb. regardless the system benefits in all benchmarks slightly. Personally I dont need more then 2gb on my main puter. I do pretty advanced stuff. Alot of hi def rendering. 2gb with win xp leaves me 500mb to spare at any given time. there is no benfit to getting 4gb vs 2gb unless you have a spcific use. the perfromance gain will not be visible to the naked eye unless you know that your page file can and will reach over 2gb,
     
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    w00t, just ordered it!
     
  47. Blazzter

    Blazzter Notebook Guru

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    send me the screens of all resolutions plsz email:[email protected] its also a MSN messenger if u'd like to add =)

    thx, im worried cuz G2S resolutions is too high !
    so i ll probally low it for everything specially heavy Games

    so what do u guys think ? if it gets blurry...its too bad, i mean wheres my freedom , what do u guys think ? =/
     
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    can someone with the g2s make a review? and place it so we can all read it
     
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    Exactly, upgrade RAM seem to double the FPS in actual game play, another benefit is that you don't even need to overclock GPU, I have the test to backup your statement:

    G1S
    stock driver no overclock:

    FEAR DEMO setup:
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    With 2GB RAM:
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    now with 3GB of RAM:
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    The FPS gets double and that's without overclocking.



    Now, F3SV-B1 with 8600M GS Video Card no overclock:
    3GB of RAM
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    The 8600M GS with 3GB performs better than 8600M GT with 2GB of RAM. :)
     
  50. Petrov

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    Ken - does that seem to imply that if the G1S had 512mb rather than 256mb of VRAM it would be a far better performer? Conventional wisdom seemed to be (as far as I understood it) that 256 v 512mb didn't make that much of a difference - but if we're saying that adding 1gb of system RAM is going to make a big difference, then we can surely assume adding 256mb of VRAM would be significant too.

    Next obvious question to me - what is likely to perform better, a 256 mb GDDR3 8600GT (clocked at 700mhz memory), with 3gb system ram, vs a 512mb GDDR2 8600GT (clocked at 400mhz memory), with 3gb system ram?

    Petrov.
     
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