G51 and G60 Difference

Besides the specs and internal components, are they exactly the same?

Is g51 (5 meaning 15 inch laptop)? and g60 ( 6 meaning 16 inch laptop)?

Can you turn off the left and right lighting on the inside screen?

Thanks

 

I have G51VX-X3A from new egg. I don't know which G51xx you looked at, but mine has P8700 CPU, so you judge if they are the same. Also, in many software my laptop is being reported as G60VX. I think they have the same motherboard.

You cannot control the lid lights. The side lid lights turn off when on battery and are always on when on AC power.

 

I have the G60JX from Best buy. it came with a core i5 and a 360m gpu this is apposed to the core 2 duo and 260M gpu. I was also able to upgrade the cpu to a core i7 820qm no problem. so yes there is a considerable difference between the g51 and g60. but I have also seen a few g60's with core 2 duos, so oyu'd have to be carefull with what you get.

 

Well, I actually wanted dual core because it is best for gaming at this time. For example, how many games use more then one core right now? Very few if any. Quads and i7 have 4 cores, but they run at slower speeds. I don't know how fast your cpu runs, but mine is at 3GHz, if yours runs at that speed then that is much better of course. I think i7s are going to become in demand more when more games will be ran on >1 CPU core.

Also, don't let the numbers fool you because 360m < 260m, look at this thread

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=455065

360 runs cooler has better memory, but it doesn't overclock as well and has fewer shaders.

 

oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that screen dimension is also important. I hope you got the 1920x1080. I have full HD screen on this G51. I've noticed there are some G51 that have lower resolution.

And of course the price as well. Someone was saying that G60 is like 800 bucks at best buy right now (again, not sure with what specs). I bought mine at the beginning of this year for $1099 and it was a steal at that time.

 

Thanks for reply, I'm actually thinking about buying the g51jx-x1 from NewEgg with the i7, 360m. I got one question for you though, I bought the Asus G60JX-BestBuy version a few weeks ago and tested it for a couple of days and the only issue i had with it was the screen quality, It looks like the colors ain't natural and a lil washed out. Even after playing with the splendid utility and nvidia settings, the screen color quality isn't sharp and I know the resolution of that is 1366x768. If i do get the one with 1920x1080 res, will the colors be more natural and sharper?

 

G60 16.2 inch, backlit LED, CPU P7450
G51 15.6 inch, backlit LCD, cpuP7350

Others are the same

 

I can't say much about the "washed out" colors concept and I believe it is perceptually different for different people. Some might think colors are washed out while others might see it as normal. I think you would have to actually look at such screen and decide for yourself if colors look washed out. I personally like the colors on my laptop's screen, but this might not be so for you.

I like the level of details on 1920x1080. When I look at other 1280x720 laptop that I have the difference is significant. Even my desktop 1680x1050 looks like 800x600 to me now. lol.

I can tell you, however, that with LED backlit LCDs your black colors will not be as black as on LCDs with luminescent backlight. For example, when I turn the brightness all the way up on my laptop and set a purely black picture fullscreen, then I can see that the black level is brighter than on my desktop pc and brighter than on the other laptop that I have (luminescent backlight).

 

benchmade42, when you were playing with Splendid, did you you see sliders to adjust colors in "My Profile" (custom profile) section of Splendid? I don't know why, but I don't have sliders there, they are missing. Tried a bunch of things, but cannot get it to work.

I'm running Windows 7 64-bit and wonder if that is why. If you had those sliders working, can you tell what OS was on that laptop from Best Buy?

 

For better color, adjust Digital Vibrance in Nvidia Control panel. Increase it to make colors more rich and saturated. Depending on the drivers you have, increase it from 0 to 26% or from 50 to 66% for a decent boost in image quality.

Also, during low light conditions, turn down brightness a bit, use 50% or so, because LED backlight (White LED) is very bright and causes blacks to appear even more grayish.

Lastly, unless you are talking about a Core i7 620M, the Core i7 quads will most likely stomp on the rest of the mobile processor families. Even the slow Core i7 can stomp on the fastest Core 2 Duo.

Remember that Core i# CPUs can turn off un used cores and increase the remaining cores, so an i7 on dual core mode is actually 2.4ghz. Additionally, the i7 families have increased cache, memory bandwidth and other enhancements besides the raw clockspeed that makes them quite powerful CPUs.

Don't be fooled by the 1.6ghz, speeds. From day to day apps, to gaming, the i7 720M might overcome the dual core solutions or at least, perform the same.

The only possible exception being the i7 620m, but the 720qm has a 50% larger cache, a 30% faster bus, and an on-die memory controller vs the 620m on-package memory controller.

 

You sure about that?

http://usa.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=bplbQOy6w8myYSq5

ASUS, Newegg, Amazon, and others all say the G51 has an LED backlight.

 

I popped in a core i7 820qm. Sure as a quad core it runs at 1.73GHZ. and yes on single threaded games that wouldn't mean anyhting. but with the speed boosting capabilities found only on the core i7's The Cpu actually runs at 3.06GHz on a single core with two threads

This means in single core applications the i7 will wipe the floor with the core 2 duos.

dual core games also see a dramatic bump. the cpu overclocks from 1.73GH to 2.5Ghz on two cores with 4 threads. this to is a better performer than ANY of the Core 2 mobiles.

And what of that 1.73Ghz? on allfor cores with 8 threads this will blow any game designed for four cores out of the water.

Here's the nice thing about the mobile core i7, unlike the older quad cores ewhich ran at insane speads all the time, the core i7's will down clock to save energy, that's right, it's a chameleon.

I understand why people are quite understanding this new cpu, because it's completely different than how we use to judge cpus.

For years we have been use to comparing Ghz as the sole selling point for performance indication. Dual core cpu's changed the way we saw cpu performance. When they first came out we all saw the "horrible" cpu speeds 2.2ghz 2.16ghz or 1.93ghz. Why would we have wanted those? The pentium 4's were pushing 3Ghz on notebook technology. But it didn't take long for us to realize that the dual core era had changed the frontier of clock speeds.

But here is where things get tricky. Today we have core 2 duos that easily push 3 Ghz on a laptop. And we seem to have forgotten once again that 3Ghz on two cores is NOT better than 1.73Ghz on four cores and 8 Threads.

Also CPU performance in a laptop has a different definition than that of a desktop. Power consumption really means sumting on a laptop because it means the difference between a portable device and a ten second dash from wall outlet to wall outlet.

The core 2 Duos have a powerconsumption of what? 35W- the core i7's consume 45W or at least the 820qm does. At first this might look like the cpu is an energy hog like the older core 2 quad mobiles, (they also ran at 45W, but at "higher clock speeds" Here's the things. on the core 2 archetecture the cpu power consumption doesn't include the northbridge power consumption. on the core i7 it does include it because the northbridge is built into the cpu itself.

So, 10w for that and you begin to see that these cpus get better performance at a lower energy consumption for a cheaper price. I was able to get my i7 820qm for about $380.

It will be interesting when the developers begin to work with quad cores

 

There is a considerable difference between the models mentioned and my G60J. I purchased mine in France last month and after reading the threads mostly based on the G60vx, I discovered my unit was substantially different. My G60J has the PM55 rather than the HM55 chip set, which gives me the features missing from the other G60 series as well as the G73. I have the 720qm CPU, GTX260 GPU, e-sata, VGA, DVI/HDMI ports, bluetooth, wi-fi, express slot, SD memory slot and 2 ea. 500 gig, 7200 rpm Seagate HD's with Blueray tossed in as a bonus.

I am very happy with the unit's performance and have had no problems. I did install Ultimate Win 7 32 bit for better comparability with older programs and Ubuntu 9.10, with I prefer for general admin tasks and internet use. I had no problems other than drivers/codecs for external devices. I did update all the Asus and Nividia drivers, as well as cleaning up the GPU/CPU heat sinks and applying AS5. This last action dropped the GPU temps from 95 down to 89 and the CPU temps from the 70 to 60 ( about 10 C difference). I do plan to mod the case and put in a fan in the fake vent, as well as at least 1 miniature fan to improve interior component cooling.

My complaints are few. I wish the USB connectors were toward the rear and the Video connectors in the back. I don't like the very limited BIOS options. Also, I wish the optional 9 cell battery was easier to obtain (it is available). I hope this helps some one trying to make a decision. I think the only drawback to some will be their desire for a higher resolution screen. Personally I think the 16 inch screen is just fine once it is properly calibrated. It is much lighter than the G73 in weight and of course more portable and with better battery life. Add the 9 cell and it becomes more attractive.

 

Wow, I didn't know i7s can do that. Now I'm thinking that maybe I got ripped off

Do you, guys, think I got ripped off by NewEgg with my laptop? Here are the specs:

Date of purchase: 01-20-2010
Price: $1099.00 and free shipping
Model: G51VX-X3A
CPU: Core 2 Duo P8700
RAM: 4 GB (ddr 2)
Video: GTX 260m
Screen: 1920x1080


It seemed like everyone on newegg was after this model of G51 and it became out of stock 1-2 weeks after I got mine. Everyone in reviews was saying that this laptop is a "steal" for that price. Was I ripped off?

 

No, you weren't ripped off, this laptop is still REALY amazing. I was just throwing out information that could be useful, you still have an amazing laptop that is second to not many. Also I like the performance of the gtx 260, the only reason I chose the G60jx orriginally was for the GTS360m because of it's GDDR5 memory. the card does have a lot of power in the memory bandwidth area and consume a marginal amount of power less than the GTX260m, but it doesn't have the pure power of the gtx, but I'm satisfied now that I put in the core i7, it really helped relive the bottle neck.

Bottom line, does your laptop work? of course, does it do it's job well? of course, is it the best laptop ever made, no, is mine, no, because for $1000 we can't expect the moon, but they really are makeing ubcredible laptops now aren't they?

 

It's good to know that it wasn't a ripoff. Thank you pugboy9!