G51vx-rx05: Are these temps normal?

Just bought this g51vx-rx05 4 days ago. Been playing around and my temps seem a little off. I don't know if they are though, so could you tell me if this is normal?

The screenshot is from 10 minutes idle, then running 3dmark 06 once.



Temp screenshots i've seen normally have both cores close to the same if not exactly the same. Also, 76c seems kinda hot...it would be for my desktop. Also idling at 65c seems nuts. Is something wrong here?

Should i return this or is this normal?

This is completely stock settings with nvidia 185.81 drivers installed.

Also, the room this was done in was normal room temp, about 75ish degrees F.

 

Your GPU seems fine although idling temp could be a bit lower, but something about the CPU aint right, 76C for one core and 62C for another seems problematic.

In case if u don't know, the safe operating temp for mobile CPUs is under 70C. While 76C won't incur instant damage to the CPU, but it is definitely not healthy for the CPU in the long run. I suggest you run 3dmark06 another time after a cold reboot and check the temp and see if u get uneven temp on the 2 cores again.

 

here are 2 more screenshots from cold boots straight to running 3dmark 06.




This screenshot had the comp idle for about 3 mins before doing 3dmark.




I called ASUS and nbprobe says temps are normal, but that can't be right.

 

It seems like the GPU is not downclocking after running a graphic intensive application. This could be the fault of drivers, I suggest you change the current driver. Use DOX 185.85 for best results in gaming.
If u don't know how to install the new drivers head to Tev's Optimization Guide.

As to the CPU, I have no idea why is there such a difference in core temperatures.

 

Probably just going to return this thing. Arrgh. I don't like that huge difference in cores and overclocking probably wouldn't work very well with the core 1 temps.

 

Something is not right about your CPU, there is no other way around. It could be bad application of the factory thermal paste, it happened to me once before when i applied thermal paste on a C2D cpu for the first time, i got uneven temp on 2 cores, pretty much like yours, i removed the old paste and applied again more carefully, the problem solved.

But removing/reapplying thermal paste AVOIDS your warranty, since u just got your laptop, i suggest u just return it/demand a new one.

 

Try different video drivers, the 186.81 for me (and others aswell) had the 2D downcloak issues, i also had 65C+ idle temps with them, just dl NVIDIA GeForce v186.82 WHQL (dont need moded inf or anything), after dl just extract them run the setup. This drivers also gave me 300pts on 3dmark06 over 186.81 official drivers. Your temp should go down to 50s on idle depending on your ambient temp aswell.

On the CPU its wierd though, since its core1 always higher, as previous posted said could be bad thermal paste application or the heatink not seating fully, but changing the paste will make you break down the warranty tape, so i would probably return it if this behavior persists.

 

Those are pretty high temperatures for three minutes after the test. What's your CPU usage at those times?

 

how do i check my cpu usage during the 3dmark test? i tried alt tabbing but it just cancelled 3dmark.

just had my notebook closed for 30mins. I just opened it and immediately started HW monitor. Core 0 at 33c and Core 1 at 53c. Like 5 secs after opening it from sleeping. That is crazy. Core 1 is screwed somehow. Gonna try those drivers and asus tech support told me to update the bios as well.

 

just installed the 182.82 drivers. Nothing changed with the cpu temps. Core 1 still idleing at 65cish. seemed to help the crap out of my gpu tho. Idleing at 50c now. So i guess it's gotta be a bad heatsink or bad thermal paste application. Prob still sending it back but i'm gonna test some games now and see if they still crash like crazy.

 

Use Task Manager to see how much your CPU is running when idling. Something isn't right.

 

everything looks normal when idling. around 2% cpu usage.

just checked temps again. Core 0 is at 49c. Core 1 is at 66c. Gpu is at 51c. This is with about 10% cpu usage cause i'm downloading the World of Warcraft installer.

 

Well, damn. Then it looks like a bad paste and/or heatsink interface. I have no idea why the two cores are so different, though. They're both around 2% usage?

 

Just stopped my wow download. Cpu usage jumps around 1% to 5%. The first graph, which i guess is core 0, seems to actually do the most jumping.

so lame that i'll void my warranty if i have a look around and try to reapply the paste, since i know how to do that.

 

Just take it back, since you only have 4 days with it you should be able to get a new one.

 

yeah, i ordered it from frys.com tho. So i have to ship it back, then wait for them to refund me, then buy another one Annoying.

 

Better than losing warranty since u just got the laptop a few days ago. The bad thermal paste application is just a POSSIBLE cause to the problem, it is not guaranteed that reapplying new paste will fix it.

You may end up losing the warranty and not being able to solve the problem by changing the paste, and u certainly don't want that.

 

Last night after playing Left 4 Dead 2 Demo fro about an hour, maybe less I exited out and checked what my Max temp was. Usually it hits 90-91C and I assume the fan kicks itself up to a higher setting and it never goes beyond this. Last night however, my CPUID Hardware Monitor recorded hitting 98C!!! That cannot be healthy and I doubt this laptop only 3 months old will last very long. I'm sort of regretting changing my CPU to a T9550 and voiding my warranty.

So my question is should I take my laptop apart and reapply thermal paste to the GPU and CPU again? CPU seems fine though. I did not apply new thermal paste to the GPU after I put in the new CPU. I think I noticed the GPU has some other sort of cover on it to help transfer the heat to the heatsink.

Could it be my drivers causing an issue, anyone else had this problem? I'm using the latest from Nvidia website - 186.81

Also I am not using a cooling pad, it seemed like I was able to get away with it when I was hitting 90C max, and I read that was pretty normal. Now I'm highly considering it, anyone have any suggestions as to which cooling pad to buy?

Edit: Also I am on stock CPU and GPU settings

Thanks!

 

Every time you change CPU paste you must change GPU paste, because you have broken the seal/contact between the GPU and the heatsink.

 

You sure? I thought when I changed out my CPU, the CPU and GPU were on separate heat pipes? I know it uses one fan, but I didn't touch the GPU. New Arctic Silver on CPU and was done.

 

They share the same heatpipe.

http://www.notebookjournal.de/storage/show/image/image4a3fa2aca1109

it is all 1 assembly.

 

Mine had plenty of wiggle room, I didn't have to touch the GPU side of things. Just the CPU/North Bridge side. Left the GPU side screwed down and in place.

Not that it isn't a good idea to reapply the GPU compound. But, it's not a must.

 

You only brake the contact when unscrewing the GPU heatsink from the die, so there is no must that you need to apply CPU + GPU at once.

You mean the aluminum radiator yeh? Actually it looks like a 1 piece but its really a 2 piece radiator. The CPU + GPU have seperate radiators. THe only thing holding thse 2 radiators together is the black tape which can be re-used several times. So for isntance you can remove the whole CPU thermal module without having to remove the GPU heatsink.

 

hm..coulda sworn I heard otherwise in the optimization thread. Didn't really try when I opened mine up

 

T'is true. I was able to swing out my CPU heatpipe assembly without doing anything to the GPU.

 

Temps look little high than ppl reporting. prly nothing that ac5 cant fix.


i just bought this laptop. i hope i wont be dissapoitend. $805 shipped 2nd day shipping from buy.com heh...

can ppl vouch for this laptop? lol

 

I love this laptop.

And don't be a dinosaur. Ditch the AS5.

 

Ok so I ran into some problems. Apparently when I closed the bottom of the case the first time I either over torqued the screws and effed up the deep seated on located towards the middle of the backplate. It is the screw that is located next to the subwoofer looking thing. It stripped when I was attempting to unscrew it, I panicked, then tried to use super glue, again failed. I decided it was never going to come out at this point, and used a screw driver to scrape around the bottom of the plastic so it would break free from the screw with enough pressure. It worked and the backplate broke off the connector and came off leaving the rest of the backplate intact. Now I'm simply missing that one screw connection.

Now another screw almost stripped on the inside on the heat pipe connectors!! Are these screws just that cheap, or is it maybe the screw driver I'm using? What size screw driver do you guys use? Also where can I find replacement screws? I am ordering a new backplate from Asus on Monday, but I had to go without one screw holding the CPU heatpipe cover. It seemed to be ok without it though. I've never had any of these issues working with custom built desktops. The screws just seem cheap, and I really don't want to eff up my new-ish laptop.

Any suggestions on exact screw driver size/brand and screw size or where I can find replacements other than from Asus would be great. Thanks!!

One last question, should I have completely removed the thermal paste on the heatpiping? I instead just cleaned the chips themselves, reapplied OCZ Freeze, and left the pink thermal on the copper that Asus had applied. Is this bad practice? Sorry I am sort of a noob with applying thermal paste. I used to just use the thermal paste that came with my stock heatsink when I'd put in a new CPU. Thanks again!

 

You should remove the old paste from the chip and from the heatpipe. This is very important. After only apply the new paste to the chip.

 

I've been unscrewing and screwing my screwing--say that five times fast--for God knows how many times, and I haven't had any issues.

Hardware or hobby stores.

Maybe you got a bad batch of screws. Could happen. Try to get replacement screws as soon as possible, though, since a missing screw is probably going to give uneven pressure.

And good luck with getting a G50 backpanel. They're still out of stock on the eStore.

Like Aerox said, it's very important to cleanse both the CPU die and heatsink before applying the thermal paste. And you must always reapply thermal paste if you lift the heatsink off the die.

 

Thanks for the info guys! I think I may have a bad batch of screws. They literally strip with the smallest amount of pressure. The store opens on Monday, I did see that the G50 backplate is out of stock. So I take it that backplate on the eStore will work? Is the G50 and G51 chassis the same? Thanks again about the info on the thermal paste, as soon as I get some new screws and the backplate in, I will be doing a complete redo of the thermal paste. I should have plenty of practice with applying it by now. This will be the third time applying it to the CPU. Again, Thanks!

 

yes, the chassis is the same. So is the cooling assembly.

 

Well oddly I installed 186.82 from 186.81 and my temperatures dropped like crazy. Now I only hit max 88C underload and fan kicks up. Also my idle went from 69-71C to 50-53C. Strange, did anyone else get these results?

 

Well his GPU Temps are God compared to mine i keep hitting 91C to 96C when playing, but with some games like Crysis and Dawn of War 2 or even L4D2 i keep hitting 101C or even 102C, is this entirely normal? or is my G51 doomed to a short lifespan?

 

Doomed unless you get something fixed up. Have you checked for the usual suspects?

 

Uhmm... no, What are the usual suspects?

 

Is there dust clogging your vents?
Is your fan moving correctly?
Have you replaced your thermal paste since you've bought it?
What drivers are you using?

 

Dust? i'm not sure i make sure that whatever surface i put it is dust free.

The fan moves full speed once it reaches around 85

No i haven't replaced the thermal paste (don't know how).

I'm using the 186.82 drivers

i don't know what'll be. although i do remember one time when i first got it the cpu temps stayed in the low 40s now they stay in the low and mid 50s

 

Probably dust, then. Get some compressed air and spray out your radiator. Make sure you keep the fan from spinning, though.

 

Just one odd question because I work in Datacenters so this is a normal thing to ask, and no one ever posts this info when they do posts like "are these temps normal"

What is the ambient room temp also where you have this laptop? just curious.
Its a variable that so few actually give us. During the summer you get these types of posts for some obvious reasons. Hot or warm air in, and hotter and warmer air out..

My old 6860FX gateway always overheated even after AS5 was applied and checked cooling block flush mounting etc., but at home my room temps were constant 68-75degrees and it never overheated at work, but thats 53-58 degrees so.

 

Well here right now its about 35 or 36 C and the lowest probably being 19 C with the A/C on. while the highest nearing 43 C

 

CJX did you ever find a fix to this problem? I am now hitting a max temp of 96C during l4d and l4d2 after only 5 minutes of play. Yes I've checked for dust, replaced thermal paste on all chips many times, made sure fan is spinning right, and I'm using 186.82. Still though the fan kicks up to full around 85 but doesn't seem to do a good enough job cooling. Also even on full fan the gpu is still cooking at like 94-95C under full load in games.

 

@Talon
we are having the same temps. I got those temps while browsing. Though I didn't reapplied the paste yet. I got the ASUS G51vx-RFRXB05 @BB. Settings all at default no OC

 

Well actually I've been able to get my GPU and CPU temps under control. I am using the 197.25 drivers from nvidia, and I reapplied new paste (shin-etsu) a couple months ago. I usually never go over 88C during Battlefield Bad Company 2.

I am running an upgraded CPU T9900 3.06ghz overclocked to 3.3ghz during gaming. My CPU temps hit a max of about 75C, and my Northbridge temps seem to get hot and max out at around 75-85C during full load long gaming. I can't seem to get these temps to come down.

The problem I was previously having was I stupidly removed the thermal pads on my GPU ramsinks, and replaced it with thermal paste. That caused it to not make proper contact with the heatsink, and thus the really high temps. Now my GPU stays fairly cool, and it idles really cool. I am typing this on my G51 which is in my lap on top of a pillow, and my temps are GPU 47C, CPU 37C, and THRM 44C.