Great way to cool your G1S

Read this thread on the Asus Forums. I did what they did and the temperature of my G1S dropped dramatically.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20071007062008156&board_id=3&model=G1S&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

 

it's been posted already

i brought my G1s to my reseller..they told me that Asus covered it for a reason..something about wanting the hot air to flow in a certain way so they adviced me not to take it off..and i didnt want to void warranty

 

They better have a good reason because with the tape removed my 3dmark06 score shot up to 3800. Also it's no longer hot around that "area"

 

Maybe its to lower the air flow and fan noise?

 

So where are the directions to do this?? I just see some pictures

 

What I did was use a cutter to cut off the tape. =/

But thats just barbaric I guess.

 

It doesnt look like he did anything. His before/after pictures are exactly the same. Am I understanding correctly all he did was peel the tape off the rear cover??

edit: n/m I see what he did now, I feel silly. sorry guys

 

what were your numbers before this modification?

 

thats an interesting idea - but im wondering why asus would choose to put the vents there in the first place if they were just going to cover them up with some tape - you know?

this is definitely interesting though - ill wait til i see some further "reviews"

 

Before when gaming my numbers would hover around 110oC. Also once it reached that temperature my fps would drop.

Now with the tape removed it doesn't go over 105oC. Plus the fps doesn't drop anymore. Instead of the fan being on full all the time, it merely goes on full for a while, drops the temperature a couple degrees then settles down again.

EDIT: Spelling

 

I noticed when I did this mod a while back on my G1 that my wireless card and my hdd got much hotter; as the only open vents that are not tapped off is the vents around the hdd and the one on top of the wireless card. Those two areas get pretty hot for me and need quite a bit of ventilation.

kong

 

Just removed the tape (I actually took the bottom covers off to check for dust... I hadn't even seen this! hah)

seems to have made quite a substantial change. I removed the tape from the gpu/cpu, ram, and wireles... idle temps are in the low 40's now, while before they were in the low fifties. Now my cooler pumps air straight into the ram

edit: just got gpu monitoring going. Low sixties! My normal idle before taking the tape out was in the high seventies.


Even my hard drive feels like it's running cooler. WOO! :thumbsup:

 

but this does void warranty?

 

That's odd. When I took all the tape off mine, even around the ram; the cpu/gpu and mem were cooler. But because all the air was now coming in through the ram and cpu/gpu slot and no longer coming in from the hdd and wireless slot, those two got really hot. I had to tape all the slots back up. Prior tape removal hdd temp was about 50c after it was 55-60c and the area between the spacebar and touch pad was very hot to the touch.

But that is cool that it's not happening to you though. Wondering if I should try it again.

 

It might be because I'm using a cooler. The two fans more or less center right on the ram opening, so it may be why it's working better for me.

It's on my lap now, and it feels hot like normal. Temps seem to be normal as well.

edit: Theros123, I really, really doubt it will void the warranty. All it is is scotch tape over the vents. Four small screws on the bottom, no warranty stickers, and just an x-acto knife slit along the edge.

 

Huh, so maybe that's why it was taped in the first place?

 

This is the same with my 5920G... Some tapes just cover the vents for no apparent reason.

Hmmm... Should I proceed to remove them?

 

I hate to say this but all this tape business looks like rushed design.

If the ventilation grates should be covered, why are they there in the first place?

And if they shouldn't be covered, why is the tape there?

This might explain why the G1S gets so hot.

A compromise solution would be to remove... half of the tape? To get part of the airflow to the HDD and the rest to GPU/CPU. Of course this might not work at all (airflows can change unintuitively), or less/more than half might need to be cut...

 

I really suggest against taking it off..i really think that my reseller had a point about it..maybe they did want the air to flow a certain way :S some one should really ask asus..preferably one of the resellers on this forum ..cause I, and I'm pretty sure most people on the forum , doesnt want to void their warranties

 

This topic was discussed a great deal in the past, and I agree with EBE that it is a bit strange why vent grills in the plastic would be covered by tape but it was probably an issue that surfaced after the specs were sent to the manufacturing plant on the original chassis (which is just a modified A-series design after all) that needed to be corrected. In another model (I forget which) the HDD tape was needed to keep it from contacting something and not booting up if it was gone, but that isn't what we're talking about here.

Pulling plastic coverings will not void your warranty, since there is no warranty sticker on it. However, keep in mind that if done you have now opened a new avenue for dust etc to get directly into the inside of the chassis and potentially cause problems that dust build-up is known to in areas that the engineers did not intend for it to settle in, and component failure due to dust may not be covered under warranty.

 

Current Temps:
GPU: 70
CPU: 50
HDD: 51

Everything looking fine so far.

And about the dust settling in the system, what it I cleaned it with compressed air every two weeks? (Which is what I do anyways.)

 

I find it amazing that most of the people in this thread have decided they are better designers than the engineers who built this laptop. Maybe the extra vents are in the case for other configurations?

 

I removed the tape as indicated and also some plastic thingie pasted onto the RAM compartiment...

Wasn't that efficient...I lost 1 or 2 degrees on CPU and GPU temp...
I'm idling at 55 / 66

the HD temp is 49....

 

HDD temperature shouldn't be affected. Its in a corner of its own and has no air flow to it. The main parts to be affected by the removal of the plastic cover should be the cpu and gpu. Btw does anyone know where the air intake is for the fan before removing the plastic cover?

 

well they're not idiots either. lol. How can you explain vents that are covered with tape ? its contradictory.

Why would you even design a case for other configurations ? sounds illogical to me.

 

To make it easier to base similar computers off of it? So they wouldn't have to design a new one by scratch?

 

When all those vents were covered up the air was being sucked in from the vents by the hdd and the wireless card. And that's how those were being cooled on my laptop. And when you uncover the tape over the ram and the cpu/gpu that negates the flow of air that flowed over the hdd and wireless. And in my case those items got hotter, so I had to cover the ram, cpu/gpu back up in order for those to cool back down. So this seems to work for others, so to each their own I guess.

 

You certainly aren't an engineer.

 

Can anyone confirm that when the ducts are taped up airflow is taken in from the HDD and wireless card? So far I've heard that it comes from the HDD and that it doesn't.

 

yes i am not. im only a consumer paying 2000 USD for an exclusive g1 machine, which is more on the expensive side of 15.4 " notebooks, compared to the mainstream ones. ( and ASUS gives a taped vent solution to efficient cooling ? ) lol.

Anywaz, has someone already got an official feedback from ASUS if this tape should be there or not ? Coz as it is, i can only assume that this tape was a remedial effort for cooling.

 

It's definitely logical to design one-fits-many cases for different types of notebooks. (although usually notebook cases are so type-specific, ports + mainboard layout and all the rest, that this is very difficult to do, at least when it comes to making the holes for ports & vents; and vents ARE holes)

I am however basing my statement on other things as well.
I would say nothing if the G1S were not getting so hot (GPU mainly, but CPU as well). These two things combined hint of rushed design.

Moreover, I feel ASUS wants to give the highest power to its users fast and cheap, and that sometimes means cutting corners in the design and programming process (see e.g., the A8 hinges, hardware incompatibilities in the C90 and the burning out underpowered adapters, and all the BIOS bugs in various latest models). This is of course not the case only with ASUS, but they used to be more careful in the past when they had fewer models, and better targeted.

 

That's way on the expensive side for any G1, they routinely sell for $1450-1600.

 

But they didnt months ago, when I bought mine for $1850

 

i did the mod.

Temperatures dropped by 2 ~ 1 degrees and GPU/CPU only cooled down faster after gaming.

Decide it was not worth the trouble of having to clean the fan too regularly as i carry this laptop around alot (Gathers dust quicker).

Decided to tape the vents up with cloth tape. Not much difference in performance. 3Dmark are about the same with and without the mod.

 

The logical thing to do, would be to just take the vents off and see if you get any drops in temperature: I did this, and got only a two degree drop in my temps., so I decided to leave the tape on. I saw a post by someone that said something like, "[since there is only one fan, which is probably controlled by the cpu temps. and not the gpu, the tape is to control airflow and direct it in a way to cool the cpu.]" This makes sense because my fan only revs up when my cpu gets hot, even sometimes staying idle when my gpu reaches 94*C and I get tearing in the top left corner in games while OC'ed.

I think someone should make a little mini-PCIe fan that fits in our G1s' extra slot. Does anyone know if these machines are using cooling pads or grease? I kinda wanna try this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15233&d=1203150538

Anyone using any software to control fan speeds yet?

 

I bought this USB fan last week and have it set on low-medium sucking the hot air out the back of my G1S. It's a cheap alternative to drilling holes in your notebook. I have the Zalmon pad also. I haven't tested it with temps yet but my fan rarely kicks in as often.

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-M...3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1215079685&sr=1-3

 

How about a little fan that connected to the motherboard somewhere for power, like a mini PCI-e slot or internal USB port or something and was shaped like a tiny turbine that has a hose attached where the air exiting the end of the hose would be directed on the end or over the gpu heatpipe. Maybe I could make one, but if it was small enough to fit anywhere in the notebook, I think this would be an awesome solution.

Has anyone tried using artic silver on a G1S?

 

You can buy a great cooler at walmart, it has great airflow. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ox2eaBjDfEg dont pass this cooler up go get it now. rofl

 

Hahaha. No kidding, I just did that the other day two. I think it was the same fan, does your's have a warm knob that doesn't do anything?