Has any successfully pin modded a z33a?

Of course we aren't on the same page. We're not even talking about the same thing! You keep stretching on the fact that you won't cover warranty and you won't like to have people abusing your services. Whereas I'm saying that overclocking is an option for those that know enough that it won't affect the components, infact rear great benefits and won't damage any hardware.

Have I stated that I needed to replace any processors or laptops? I have already modded 3 different laptops Z70Va, dv1000, Toshiba M55/M50 with the same trick and none of them has failed. I totally don't see your point of converstation. I'm not even your customer! LOL

 

Right. LOL:centrino: :base:

 

You go ahead and keep talking like it matters...

Nice ego by the way.

 

This is getting old real quick. Your obviously out of information and out of things to talk about. Would you quit it with the personal attacks? as well as the stupid one-liners that follow right after PROportable's posts like : Yep! That's what I meant! Oh yeah! go Pro!

 

.... um..... yeah there are plent of ways to find out of a cpu was overclocked..... and to waste your time overclocking a pentium-m would be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of to begin with.... The Pentium-M is really the anti-overclocking cpu.... it underclocks whenever possible.

#1 - if you're dumb enough to overclock a pentium-m you completely lose any of the powersaving features the cpu was made for

#2 - intel has a program that will report the highest speed attained by the cpu...... so that's sort of an easy way to tell.

 

Wow hypocritical too?
Well maybe I would if you presented me with information of value...

 

Your actually very wrong! Overclocked Pentium Ms actually function exactly like any other Pentium M. SpeedStep still works perfectly and my [email protected] would run at 800Mhz(instead of 600Mhz) on Battery Mode running on .724v and I get around 3.5 hours Battery life. If you call that underclocking, you have no clue what your talking about. I don't care if your a reseller or a distributor, you simply just don't know much about the products your selling.

Anti-overclocking?? There is no such mechanism or software created from Intel. My benchmarks prove it. I can post pictures if you don't believe it.

Tell to do what? If a piece of software can actually tell overclocks(well duh, CPU-z, NHC, and a whole lot of can show overclocks) if its running, then there is no need to actually warranty it! What I'm trying to say is that your method doesn't work, if infact that a system was actually overclocked, tampered and not working at all, you wouldn't be able to tell!

 

Talk about misreading/misunderstanding.

 

Whoa, poeple turning ugly here. As for this thread- I think it's quite informative. Closing it would be censorship.

 

I've honestly kinda ignored this thread(I don't know much about pin-mods besides the basics), sorry for beng such a bad mod

Anyways, to the point, I feel this thread is done, ONLY the commotion. It's too bad this little debate has so much information, and closing/editing it is such a waste of useful knowledge.

The conclusion is basically, if you bought your notebook and feel like modding it in any way, go ahead, but be warned of the consequences. If you acknowledge that, have fun and stay safe

I'll leave this open, but I won't hesistate to close it, if need be.

 

You can't argue with MR. KNOW IT ALL. hes the king of asus. if you own anything other than asus you are just plain stupid

harharharhar

 

I'm a proud owner of the W3V, but I think that comment is pretty ignorant and the other about someone shouldn't be here because he owns an HP was very uncalled for. This is an open forum. Very embarassing too comin from a reseller.

 

oops! did I misunderstand? I still don't understand what he;s getting at really..

 

I'll leave that for the moderators to decide, but I think what you said there is totally uncalled for.

What does my age have to do with any of this? Besides, if I was really 16, I would have to be 7 years old to have overclocked a Celeron 300a(try reading my posts again), I would be a genious wouldn't I? LOL not that I am..

To be honest, the reason I came to this Asus forum is because I'm very interested in purchasing a W3V(I said this before), and I was looking if people have made any mods to it, which includes the pin-mod/overclocking since I'm a heavy tweaker. I'm looking for a laptop with decent graphic capabilities for a veteran graphic designer that has been in the business for around 8 years, I do light gaming on my spare time, as well as alot of using alot of multimedia like movies ecoding, music encoding etc. I need plenty of speed and expandability. Btw, I'm very curious with Asus's hot swappable HDD rack, does it come with the unit? If not, where can I purchase this?

 

I'm gonna have to disagree with Justin on the HP comment...
HP makes decent notebooks at a very affordable price; something Asus has yet to do, but I'm sure will do in the near future.

Case and point: the DV1000

 

what kind of test bed? logged? I have yet to see such a function in all my time with laptops and desktop computers. The BIOS doesn't retain any information after a CMOS reset.

You are all bogus to me...

 

That's pretty serious stuff your saying there. If that isn't ignorant, I don't know what that is!

 

Most resellers sell it, but no it does not come included.
It's usually around $40-$50 depending on reseller.

 

I think he was saying it was logged in the cpu somehow? Never heard of anything like that myself. Anyways i have been working on pcs for about 11 years now since i was 15. I would concider myself an expert not in everything, but to the point Justin i have to disagree with you i love asus notebooks they are wonderful and they are my number 1 favorite motherboard. But i also have a compaq laptop and its a great machine. The R3000 and honestly it has a better screen than my W2V any day. brighter, better viewing angles more contrast. And the speakers are far better than the W2V which should def have better speakers since its selling point is it has a built in sub. But for the pricepoint HP stuff is decent i would buy one again. Justin i think your a great reseller and have great customer support i bought my W2V from you and just recently had one friend and someone else i know purchase two notebooks from you, But you get way to heated up on some issues i think it makes you look bad at times in these forums i mean this is online not real life no need to get so pissed off. Dvx1000 is obviously an advanced user and i read everything he said and it all makes sence. I dont mean to piss anyone off but all the dealers that added to this thread sounded pretty much ridiculous at times just take a breath and think what your saying cause its mostly just gibberish, JUST IN THIS THREAD. but it sure was entertaining

 

It's because the argument was so interesting that this thread was not closed...although it's almost at the point where it should be closed.

 

DVX
I agree with you your freedom of speech and hope your laptop burns to ashes. I would not care if it did. My comments are not directed at you to offend you. They are directed at you and for everyone else to read and be weary of what you are posting here. I for one think the advice you are giving here causes more harm by far then any good for everyone. Us the resellers, the end users that decide to follow you and the people that have to warranty products that were damaged by user error or negligence. Why are you acting so surprised at our unwillingness to promote your mentality? Did you stop and think that maybee many people would suffer if I said "Ye man this mod is the shiznit, you should do it cuz ur lappy will be pimped out and then you can chrome it out and pick up mad honeys with it"? No this mod is bad. If i was the moderator here i would delete all signs of it and its mentions on this forum becuase it causes more harm then good. This forum is good. This mod is bad. They do not go together. End of story if you like it so much and think its a good idea be your own ginea pig. Dont impose your experiment on other inexperienced users who cant tell danger from ranger.

 

Most Dothans top out at 2.70-2.80Ghz.

How do I know this? Well, I have been overclocking them for some time now



They are clocked conservative to put it mildly. I cannot wait to get my hands on a Yonah and give it a spin.

 

2.8 thas impressive. I didnt think they would be stable that high how are the tempetures when running at full speed?

 

That is completely uncalled for, not to mention a personal slander. What is wrong with owning an HP notebook? Maybe he got it at a huge discount -- as those can often be had at the retail stores. When was the last time you offered a similiarly configured Asus for $699?

I have a Dell 9300, I got it at a 30% discount + a $100 stackable. It's ugly, but it's powerful -- more powerful than any Asus currently offered, especially since I o/ced some of the key components.

I do like Asus -- which is why I visit this forum, and was shopping around to get one, but the cheaper and more powerful Dell that is readily available at the time won in the end. The funny thing is, I thought only Apple owners sometimes feel "elitist". I might be in the market for an Asus, as I do want something small and portable that I can take with me on my travels. It will never be oced because this will be my travelling companion. After reading some of the rather ignorant comments in this thread, I honestly dont think I will be getting it from any of the resellers here.

Again, modding is a personal preference, not necessary for PERFORMANCE issues. Manytimes ppl do it just so to show that they CAN. You don't like it/don't want to take the risk? then don't do it! I have NEVER burned out a cpu, and I've oced everything from P3 Celeries to AMD t-birds(the old ones w/o a heatspreader ) to P4 Northwood to my Dothan 2.0. I'm a little disappointed by the Dothan thou...

Why? Just to see whether I can or not, then I throttle it down if I don't need the extra boost.

cheers,

yass

 

Never imposed anything. Right off the start of this conversation I have said
I'm not going to try to convince you all to overclock, if you fear it, then look the other way.
As well I have implied that if you permanently damaged anything, you have voided your warranty.

Have I said that "If your OVERCLOCK FAILs, run to your reseller to get it swapped." ? Heck no, why am being attacked as if I said something like this?

And I will repeat what I have said and add a few words:

I also believe that there are a lot of people that don't know and just not educated enough to take extra care to overclocking. So I won't encourage it. Overclocking is not a simple task, it's an more advanced technique that takes alot of research, experience and patience. It's not made for the casual computer user that doesn't know a thing about cpus, memory, and mainboards. Overclocking indeeds voids warranty, and if anything fails as of result of it, the user is liable for his/her own actions.

I don't get this mentality. Enthusiasts are also customers too, why completely shun them when you can actually learn from them too?

Well, I'm definately sure I'm going to get a W3V, and guess what, without a doubt in my mind that I'll be tweaking it.

No worries, I'll be on this forum too whether you like it or not.

Well, I'm done here..

 

Nice overclock PRessure!

Looks like your overclocking this on a desktop though. Still a nice job! Whats your setup? and what cooling device are you using?

I'm sure my 1.7Ghz would work at a much higher speed on a desktop with the Asus 479 convertor. However, the laptop heatsinks just aren't efficient enough to cool when you overvolt as well as not having much FSB options(lol it's either 100 or 133)..

 

Indeed, it was more or less just to prove your point.

Using the Asus CT-479 kit. Have a Zalman CNPS7700-Cu strapped to it currently, so it isn't making a lot of noise either.

I wouldn't recommend new people to just jump into it and get all gritty and dirty. But as with myself, it is kind of a learning curve. So if people read up and do their homework first, I see no problem with it whatsoever - granted they have to understand the risk by doing it or they can get to know it the hard way.

Even if the overclock does degrade the chips life expectancy, odds are that by the time it ceases to function most users will have something new. We are still talking atleast 5 to 6 years of good use but as with everything there is no guarantees. The product may even be broken from the factory and many products do have a failure rate of 2 (maybe higher) out of every 1000.
I still have an old Katmai Pentium III (Slot 1) system that is overclocked by 33% (from 100Mhz to 133Mhz FSB) and it still functions. Tough ol' bugger for sure.

Hell, I even modified my X800 Pro VIVO by opening the last four pipelines on the core (to a total of 16) and clocked it at X800XT-PE speeds.

Again, this is mostly for enthusiasts and people who are willing to take the risk. Enthusiasts sees it as a 'free' performance increase. Overclocking is well-known on desktop computers but has only recently started to show up in the mobile segment. Interesting times ahead for sure.

 

Thanks yass! Actually I did keep a worklog of it, infact it's posted on the dv1000forums http://www.dv1000forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1464
Basically it's sheets of adhesive similar to the dash kits you find for cars, but much thinner. They can serve as a way to protect your laptop or as a way to spiff/jass up the the look of the laptop cosmetically. The reactions of people think that my laptop is some expensive piece of equipment, and it's funny when I tell them the actual truth behind the mod.

The only difficult thing about it is actually having the dimensions of the unit, and then applying it when it's cut to the "T".

 

To PROportable:

Hear me out, I'm not trying to prove that your way of business is wrong. Don't get the wrong idea, whatever works for you works. I'm not questioning that. The way I do business is actually being truthful to the customer, if they don't need the power, I tell them. If they don't know anything about computers, I don't go suggesting complicated elaborate speedy systems that they don't need.

What I'm trying to say is that, if there is an enthusiast that is deeply interested in the topic of overclocking, because of my experience and as a hobbyist why won't I tell them my personal opinion? It doesn't hurt me as a business since they fully know the warranty policies, you break it you pay it.. simple as that. Infact, I get a following of users that only buy from me because I know my stuff and I suggest what to buy. It saves them money but it brings me business that I might not have gotten.

Ontop of that, most of the time if warranty needs claiming, as a reseller you just do your job, I'm sure the suppliers/distributors will take it back nonetheless, like they do for me. I really don't care if it's overclocked or not before because that's really not my issue, if the component failed one way or another that was deemed a defect. It gets replaced. If there was user damage or anything else, then the customer gets the notification from me and won't be replaced, I as a reseller doesn't lose from this policy

It would also help a bit to understand the technologies implemented, I'm sure you deal with computer components all the time but it seems to me that there is room for improvement for youself. You may have been in the business for some time, but there are always new innovations coming out and you have to keep up. I'm sure I've stumped you a couple times in previous posts with some of my questions, as well you made some pretty embarassing statements as well.. I'm not trying to offending you now, however, it's just that I've spent hours on end reading up on technical papers and as well as forums to keep up with the technology. Heck, I've been going to Intel & AMD Conferences all the time and I don't go for the free lunch, but rather to get down and gritty with the direction/innovations that they are offering in the future. Once you get into the specifications and architecture design of computers then you will realize how much my previous statements make sense.

However, I'm no computer engineer and I don't know all the details of how processors, mainboards are manufactured. There are other people that far exceed my knowledge in that field that can go many times more indepth than my posts. There are times in which I'm wrong too and I would admit it too, so your not the only one.

Well, you just said it. This is the same mentality of the overclocker. Watercooling is another type of PC modification/hobby(and it even links with overclocking too since water is much more superior at cooling). Why do you watercool a PC when you can simply get the same performance with air cooling or the stock heatsink? Well, because it's quieter and more efficient at little cost(well unless your getting a Senfu Kit or something). That's almost the same reason why PC enthusiasts overclock processors & video cards. They want to make their PC faster and more efficient at little cost or none at all.

But anyhow, hopefully you get my point. Overclocking is an option for the user, and under my experience if you approach it with the right mindset & spend the time to learn the tricks of the trade. It's actually not risky. There are different degrees of overclocking, from a timid overclock to the most extreme just like anything else in this world.

What I'm trying to get at is that your attitude towards me at the beginning was uncalled for, and I really was offended by some of the things you said up there. But again, this is a forum and it's not like I'm crying typing this response. There will be always critics and skeptics out there that don't agree with what I'm saying.

BTW, using the pin mod is actually a very mild overclocking procedure. The only difficulty is actually pulling apart the laptop(easy for whitebooks) to get to the socket. Once you pop it in, and everything back together, it's like getting a free processor upgrade.

 

For sure but this is not exactly a modding enthusiasts forum and there are alot of impressionable minds here that would love to do this. I am just saying the censequence is there is a good possibility of loosing your warranty and killing your laptop. its a commonly known fact.

 

I don't disagree with that fact

And I can understand why retailers would raise concerns regarding topics such as this, as it will undeniably in some cases affect the warranty you are trying to provide.

But if you do not feel like you can afford to lose the hardware, then do not fiddle with it. No need to fix something that isn't broken in the first place. It's just that those enthusiasts have a different mind set, that's all