How can I change the CPU frequency in W3J?

Hi!

Just got my W3J and I am pumped up. It is the bomb. Just as expected and even more. Love it.

But there's just one thing. Everything I do, the CPU frequency stays at 997MHz. Even if I raise the multipliers and/or the voltages in NHC, it wont change the CPU frequency.

I want the CPU frequency to be at MAX 1.83MHz when the notebook is connected to the AC. And battery max when using the battery.

How can I raise the CPU frequency? With some other program maybe?

 

What mode are you on for Power4Gear?

 

UM i wouldnt max out the cpu ever. Its better to use dynamic switching so it uses the power when its needed. If you keep it maxed out it will heat up like a toaster.

 

I have tried every Power4Gear mode, same thing with each one of em. Wont change.

I really want the CPU to be more than 997MHz when unrarring and when using Photoshop. It stays at 997MHz all the time.

I really just want to be able to change it..

 

WHere are you getting the speed reading from? if its from windows properties its not accurate at all. If you have power4gear set to high speed mode then its running at full speed. windows doesnt report it properly. just set NHC to full speed. if NHC is reporting 997 then either you have a software glitch or hardware issue. Although ive never seen a centrino locked at a speed. i would uninstall power4gear since you are using NHC.

 

I have the same problem with my A6Ja, all the different power4gear settings result in 997mhz... I uninstalled Power4gear and then used windows own powerprofiles to always on, but is stays 997. Even on a clean XP installation without any power software, will it not run at full speed. I'm using CPU-Z 1.33.1 and RMclock to check the speed, always 997. I even disabled Speedstep in RMclock, still 997... Maybe speedstep is programmed into the bios without a user "switch" to turn it on or off. It's always set to throttle down whatever our settings are in XP.
Maybe that is the only way Asus engineers can keep the heat down?

 

Ive never seen these issues with the pentium m. maybe its a core duo thing. There should still be a setting the bios to disable dynamic switching and it will run at rull speed.

 

Or it could be for some reason these programs your using dont correctly read the cpu frequency of core duos? Does anyone know if RM clock and NHC and all that have been updated to be compatable with the core duo?

 

Power4Gear works for me. When I'm on battery saving mode, the CPU frequency drops to 237 MHz and when I'm at High Performance mode, the freq is at 987 MHz. But I have not seen it go over this speed. I check the speed by clicking properties from My Computer. I suppose it will only max out when you are using intensive programs like games, etc...

 

I have the same problem and I'm using a W3j. The clock stays at 998 MHz and don't change when I stress it with Prime95 or play a game. :|

 

Just out of curiousity is this kind of what you are seeing? In this case the Ram is running at 997 mhz the cpu is the t2500 running at 2.5ghz.

 

no..thats not what I am seeing. I see that the CPU frequency is 997MHz and wont go over.

 

sorry I was just checking. I have learned to never underestimate the stupidity of some people with computers. (like my parents) Hope you get your problem fixed.

 

I so know what you mean =) but ive been around computers for a long long time..

Ideas are still very welcome..

 

Is there not an option in the bios to turn of speedstep/dyanmic swtiching and choose max performance? I have always had that option in all my pentium-m notebooks I owned (4 in total).

 

No. There are no options concerning the CPU in the BIOS.

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/9666/cpuz19cp.jpg

 

That picture is from CPU-Z... That is not the bios. I don't see the point of the image except to prove its running at the speed you mentioned.


Update: This assuming you don't know how to access the bios.
On my Asus you access the bios by turning on the laptop you hit the F2 key a few times (its usually either del, esc, f2, f10 key on most notebooks). Once you're in the bios you may find the options for it. If you do locate it don't forgot to save settings and exit. Then let us all know if it made any difference.

 

- which was exactly what i wanted to do.
- I know how to access a BIOS
- there are NO options for the CPU in the BIOS.

 

Whenever a program calls for a high percentage of processor power, the Core Duo will automatically clock up to its highest clockspeed.

Try running SuperPI while having the CPU-Z application open.

 

ok, sorry to hear you don't have that option. That's a real bummer and a bit suprising. Actually if I think back even to the very old laptops I owned I still remember there was options about performance.

 

With SuperPI, the CPU goes up to 1.83GHz. But still its stupid that the capasity of the CPU gets used only with heavy stuff. I still would like that I would be able to unrar with 1.83 and do other not so heavy stuff with the 1.83GHz.

 

The thing it does but because it switches so fast you probably don't see it.

Put it this way if you was benchmark it. i.e. set one as always set at 1.83ghz and the other using dynamic switching it would be roughly equal. I wouldn't be concerend with dynamic swicthing/speedstep.

 

I know that the switch is done in milliseconds, but it bothers me that when the CPU is stressed at 30-50%, its still on 997MHz. Id like it to be on 1.83GHz when its stressed that much.

 

I'm not sure if RM clock works with core duo but if it does there are options there you can permantly run it one speed i.e. in your case 1.83ghz. There are even settings to adjust how dynamic swtiching adjust to the next level.

 

my take on this is that, WinRAR may not be multi-threaded and thus may not be able to use the 2 processors thus resulting in the clock speed of only 1 processor. SuperPI is multi-threaded and thus is able to use both cores. Try doing something in a multi-threaded program (i.e. Photoshop) and see how the clock-speeds are shown.

 

In case you don't know, each core operates at 1.83Ghz. The difference is, they stack cache and thats how you get 2mb l2 cache.

 

Unless they changed super pi recently it is single threaded.

I Think you cpus are fine its just not being reported properly because the software probably isnt made for the duo.

 

Super Pi isn't multi-threaded, I don't think. My 1.6 GHz core duo is barely beating a 2.0 Ghz Dothan. If it was multi-threaded, I would have half the time as the Dothan.

 

Even with RM Clock, it is not possible to raise the CPU up to 1.83GHz. It just stays at 997MHz. This is very weird, something must be blocking the override of the multiplier&voltage of the CPU.

 

Asus support seems clueless also, after trying some basic stuff..

 

The software must be mis reading it or something. I dont think its stuck at that speed.

 

Which software? WCPUID or Notebook Hardware Control?

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload9/screenshot-ats.jpg

 

Lol =D

Asus hasnt still solved it..

 

Bupp2 if its fine for you thats even stranger. have you guys tried a fresh OS install.

 

I don't know much about processor speeds, but this is something I noticed. On the image you posted of your CPU-Z information it lists the different clock speeds. Core speed - 997.5 MHz, Frontside bus - 166.3 MHz, & Bus - 665.0 MHz. Taken together these equal 1828.8 MHz or 1.8288 GHz. Could this be the speed you're trying to obtain?

 

no one is the memory speed.

 

It's not fine. The NHC monitor shows a CPU clock of 998 MHz and WCPUID 1.83 GHz. If I set the settings to "Max performance", nothings happens. But if I restart the NHC I can see the correct CPU clock. I believe that WCPUID is showing the right frequency and Notebook Hardware Control doesn't work well with Core Duo Processors/Asus W3j.

 

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4090/screenshot9wu.jpg

sweet everything is set to be at 1.83GHz, but it wont go up there "for good".

 

I didnt think NHC supported it yet. But maybe if you uninstall all that stuff and just use the OS and power4gear it works fine.

 

I just got my W3J, so this is a fresh install of Win XP Pro.
I have tried with nothing else but Power4Gear, but Power4Gear doesnt work that way. It works so that it keeps the CPU Frequncy and multiplier low when not needed and when needed, it boosts it up to what ever is needed. That is not what I want. I want the CPU frecuency to be at 1.83GHz when connected to the AC.

 

Asus's support said: Please use the recovery CD and install latest Inf update and CPU hotfix, then it should work.

Yeah right, I have a fresh install of XP pro and those both installed. I hate that recovery CD ****, no reasonable person uses that ****. I am stuck. Dunno what to do, ideas are welcome?

 

Well, maybe we have to wait for a BIOS update or something.

 

On my W2V power4gear on the super perforance setting thing runs at full speed2.13ghz as it does on my z63a. in fact i think the super and high setting run it at full speed. at least on mine it does when plugged in. S

 

*SOLVED*

CPU-Z and NHC shows the speed wrong. Win + Pause/break shows the real deal and WCPUID also. I set the speed with NHC to maximum performance and checked the speed with those other progs. Thank you everybody for your help!

 

I knew it was reporting wrong. there was no way it wasnt running full speed with power4gear and plugged in.

 

You can manually configure power4gear as well to set the CPU to a certain %age of speed and it works perfectly on my A8J. NHC gave me trouble as well. power4gear takes my cpu down to 385Mhz which is great for conserving power. Also make sure you have a check next to Auto performance when u left click on pwr4gear in the sys tray if you are in high performance mode for example. That will make the cpu clock dynamically.

Could you tell me what sort of temperatures you are seeing on your laptop? My cpu idle temp around 50 seems to be fine but while gaming, it goes up to 61-62, once 65 degrees and im worried thats a bit too high

 

65 degrees is nothing for a core duo. The pentium Ms could run up to about 85 with no problem. 65 is very low.