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    Intel Q9650- 3ghz x 4 working in a 15.4" Asus C90P laptop!!

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by King of Interns, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Yup, you better believe it! Runs sweetly enough at stock clocks and volts even when stresed with prime! Max temps 65C. Battery lasts an hour haha but tis enough for me :) Power supply runs out of juice at about 3.33ghz+. Time to eat some QX9300's and get a PS bigger than 150W :D

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    screenshot of sorted undervolted stable stock clocks stress test max temps 60C (5C under throttle temp) 1.0375Vcore

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    Wprime screenshot at stock clock (undervolted permantently via RMclock) 13.5secs

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  2. 9800xpv

    9800xpv Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi,

    Good job King. :cool:
    It is a SLB8W ?
    What about some 3dmark06 to compare ?

    I wonder what bigger Power Adapter than 150W you can get ? ASUS doesn't sell any.

    What a pity that ASUS doesn't sell the C90P in France :(
    @+ ;)
     
  3. Logitech456

    Logitech456 Notebook Consultant

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    ? how did the cpu fit in the socket?
     
  4. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    I haven't got 3Dmark06 installed but once I have the 8600M GT DDR3 back I shall do a test. It seems the quad throttles when the temp reaches 64-65C which is really quite low and the fans won't spin up enough to keep it down before it hits that. I have yet to undervolt though should get at least least stock running stress test without throttling and perhaps even do a 5% OC using turbogear with same undervolt. I think a fan mod is in order to get those fans running faster methinks. I bigger PS I think is necessary as on a stress test at 10% OC the system just turns off- sign of lack of power. With a fan mod and bigger power supply 3.33ghz+ to the fsb limit will be simple. Yup it is the E0 stepping, I wouldn't have anything less hehe

    Logitech the laptop uses a standard LGA775 desktop CPU socket that accepts any 1333 processor. Well that wasn't proven until now but I guess I can say it does now :)

    edit: undervolt from 1.150V to 1.0375 at stock 3ghz enables max temp of only 60C and no throttling. 1.0375 is lowest stable Vcore for stock clock operation. Stupid fans barely spin however, gonna have to do a hardware mod or replace them with a higher rpm model.
     
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    ISoree Notebook Enthusiast

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    great success!! pretty nice

    was the bios from the start ready for this or must u edit the cpuid table? Or is there a newer bios from asus there?
     
  6. Amnesiac

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    Why bother replacing them? They seem to be keeping the processor remarkably cool, especially for a desktop CPU.
     
  7. King of Interns

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    Because the throttle temp is 65C and I want to OC it to the fsb limit which is around 10% OC to 3.33ghz. If the fans were to turn full 9,500 rpm or close to it the temps wouldn't even touch 50C giving me the necessary OCing headroom. I am guessing the 11,000 rpm fans will turn a little quicker compared with these say 5500rpm instead of 4000rpm or whatever the silly bios is telling them to do with full load.

    @Isoree I simply had to update bios from 0604 version to latest 0803. I took me awhile. Using ISO didn't work but eventually it took it using AFlash+rom file on a usb stick.

    Does anyone know where to get generic power supplies from? Looking for 180-220W but don't know where to look.
    Current PS is 150W, output 19.5V -- 7.7A. Would the new one have to match the output statistics on this one?
     
  8. chubbybuddy

    chubbybuddy Newbie

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    This is wonderful news!!! Say, King, would you be able to share the source of the latest C90P bios, as here in USA ASUS support website still only has original bios 0604 posted? I too hope to upgrade as soon as finances permit. :p
     
  9. RangerXML

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    NICE, if I would of known this in the first place I would of never sold you my C90P :p
     
  10. King of Interns

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    Ha ha Ranger too late to get it back now :p At least you can rest in comfort knowing it is in good hands being pushed like all C90's should be :) Lets just hope the motherboard doesn't die again on me! Anyways my next plan is to get rid of this POS SSD (they are not that great) and use the proceeds to buy windows 7 64 bit and the best normal HDD money can buy :) This thing will be a beast. If it survives those upgrades then I shall attempt a GPU upgrade, a GT130M anybody :p Anyways Dorian how you doing?

    Chubbybuddy. I have the 0803.rom file and used it with aflash on a bootable flash disc however I have also given the file to ken at gentechpc for him to covert to iso. I shall ask him kindly to upload the easy iso cd version of the 0803 bios to this thread so you can download it when you need it.
     
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    do you think a 1600mhz bus quad would work?
     
  12. King of Interns

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    I assume you are refering to the QX9770 quad as that is the only one right? I highly doubt it would as the P35 chipset in this takes 1333 maximum. If it did the chip would be underclocked and slower than the Q9650. Also I think it consumes way too much power as in its TDP around 130W I think!

    Wow one more post and I'am at 1000!
     
  13. ISoree

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    I just ordered yesterday the Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB wich seems to be the best for now compared to Storagecapacity and speed. If u wish i can give you the next week some testresults
     
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    Hi,

    That's the one I plan to get when I have some money. Perhaps next month.
    Please, tell us how it works.
    Thanks alot
    @+ ;)
     
  15. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    Yeah that would be very useful. What about the new 640GB 5400 rpm drives? Should be pretty close if not better in performance?
     
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    ok will do no problem. hope the middle of next week i got that hdd at home and can give u some results on it.
     
  17. King of Interns

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    The C90 uses 9.5mm 2.5" SATA 2 drives doesn't it? not 12.5mm right
     
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    yes you are right the 12,5mm drives would not fit

    but this Seagate is just 9,5mm. I just dont know if SATA II will be used but thats not important to me if its not so (but i think it will)
     
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    Just have a look here.

    @+ ;)
     
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    Congrats, thats some nice work you've done here on the forums, keep it up.
     
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    i dont know if the c90 will handle this higher standard. Thats what i meaned sorry for maybe things got complicated
     
  22. King of Interns

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    Thanks for the compliment Rorschach :)

    Update: managed to undervolt and OC simultaneuously to get 5% stable OC on the Q9650. Now running @ 3.15ghz :) Note that lovely temp of 64C max!
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    Wprime score at 3.15ghz - 12.874 secs !! :D
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    Going to shoot for 3.2ghz + with an additional case mod coming up :D Maybe tonight mwahaha
     
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    There is no problem for the CPU but the GPU suffers alot. I haven't seen temps on the c90p but on the c90s mine is idling 80C+
     
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    very impressive King :) , not bad at all compare to Core i7 Extreme 920XM:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Same noise level as my 5400 rpm 160GB as for temps, is there a way to get a reading from a program? The palm rest seems no hotter then before. It also cut my startup and shutdown times in half, and bumped my windows rating from 4.9 to 5.9. Im very happy with it.
     
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  29. King of Interns

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    Very nice Ken! I am currently testing 3.3ghz so far stable and only about 59C load. I basically vicious modded the cpu area of the ace door and then got a 12V adaptor for my cryo cooler! Voltage needed is just 1.1125! I shall upload pics when I am done :) I shall catch up with that Wprime score yet, those I7's are very quick though! I can imagine maybe shaving my score down to 12secs but never to 11 like that. Oh well still fairly confident I have one of the fastest 15" laptops in the world CPU only wise of course :D

    edit : 3.3ghz stable screenshot. Managed to run at 3.33ghz stable also with 58C load but power is an issue all that the system needs to crash is to stick a usb powered HDD into the laptop during the stress test. I shall push it to max fsb limit and upload wprime scores once I have a bigger power adaptor!
    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks alot,
    I planned to get the Seagate 500GB 7200.4 but I must look closer to this WD, I think.
    @+ ;)
     
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    I have a G71 on the way. I'm guessing it uses the same configuration. So the stock processors are 65w and you're using a 90w now right?

    On a side note, anyone know why there is both 90w and 65w for most of the quad core speeds? They seem to be the same stepping and voltage as far as I can tell.
     
  32. King of Interns

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    The Q9650 is 95W tdp. The duals are 65W, there are also select "S" quad versions such as the Q9550S that are 65W as they are basically factory undervolted E0 stepping chips. The G71 however doesn't use standard LGA 775 desktop socket CPU's however. The best CPU you can fit is the QX9300. That chip is slower than the Q9650 but still pretty quick however as it is the most powerful mobile chip expect it to be expensive!
     
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    Wow KoI, thanks for the heads up! I'm a little dissappointed, I thought I was going to have a very upgradeable machine, but I'm still hoping for a good overclock, so it's not a total loss.

    Can you tell me the socket type for the G71? Is it Socket P or 478?
     
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    Ok, I looked it up and I guess it's Socket P. The QX9300 would be nice but I'm expecting to get the Q9000 over 2.6 Ghz anyway, so I guess I'll wait on the QX9300 or probably just skip it completely.
     
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    Hi so i got back home today and guess what is looking for me? YES my new Seagate 7200.4 500GB. So i installed it in my C90S, installed the old Hitachi 250GB in the new ESATA case and cloned the drives, sorted the free space to the needed partitions and HEY its pretty good right now! Windows 7 index jumped from 5.2 to 5.9 and the speed is realy there. I can feel it in boot, shutdown and also in all Windowsoperations. Starting programs or browse for some music on my hdd now gets realy faster. So the little more price for the 7200 edition is realy worth it in my eyes. The temps are also a little bit lower. Old 250gb was in idle after 2h running at 52°C now the new 500gb after 2,5h just at 46°C. Noiselevel is also a little bit lower i think. Just the batterystandby i cant test because i use it always with powersupply
     
  36. King of Interns

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    Alrighty I have just recieved the 180W targus power supply and can happily report I have reached the fsb limit of 370mhz! Here are the results and screenshots. 3.33ghz stable :) Wprime score of 12.15 secs. I managed 12.03 secs yesterday but for some reason or other can't seem to reproduce that score at the moment.
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    Temps are much higher than I originally thought as Hwmonitor was reporting them wrongly before. The throttle temp is actually 80C and as you can see from the screenshot my max temps are peaking nicely at 76C which is still perfectly acceptable :)

    During the test I also had the 8600M GT DDR2 OCed to its maximum clocks of 575/1490/543 to make sure there are no power issues. There are none yay