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    Is it okay keep your laptop plugged in at all times?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by inchyfingers, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. inchyfingers

    inchyfingers Notebook Consultant

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    Is it okay keep your laptop plugged in at all times? I hate having to manually pulling the plug out when I go to bed. Is it okay to leave the laptop plugged 24/7?
     
  2. MisterX334

    MisterX334 Notebook Guru

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    if the battery is still in the laptop , i think you screw up your battery that way
     
  3. skynet1988

    skynet1988 Notebook Consultant

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    Take out the battery first. When you say plugged in at all times, do you mean having it plugged in, while it's off? If so, it is Ok I guess.
     
  4. ATG

    ATG 2x4 Super Moderator

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    In my opinion it's okay. I'm running mine(Acer) plugged in(and running) 24/7 for the last year and a half, no problems so far. I have a 4 years old Asus Z94L which I'm running in the same way and I don't have a problem with it either.
    Nah, I don't think so.
     
  5. inchyfingers

    inchyfingers Notebook Consultant

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    Plugged in overnight 24/7 and the battery still in the laptop.
     
  6. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    It would be prudent to discharge your battery to 40% or so and to store it separately in a cold and dry place so that you preserve its ability to hold a charge.
     
  7. David

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    Same here. Both my Asus G71g and Dell M2400 are on 24/7 with the AC adapter connected. Lithium ion batteries do a much better job in preserving battery life than before.
     
  8. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Yeah, it's basically OK.

    To be on the safe side, don't leave the battery always on a full charge, do some partial discharges from time to time (say, once a week or so), and a full discharge say once every couple of months.

    But if you really keep it plugged in 24/7, then you can of course consider discharging the battery to 43% and storing it. That will increase its life (somewhat). Then, it should be charged and discharged once a number of months.
     
  9. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    It won't really hurt much, like others have said it might reduce battery life but not by much,so yeah if your worried just unplug it every few days to have some sort of charge and discharge cycle.
    Personaly my laptops are generally plugged in most of the time and I have yet to see any significant change in battery life.
     
  10. Sword and Scales

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    Couldn't offer better advice.
     
  11. inchyfingers

    inchyfingers Notebook Consultant

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    Can I leave the laptop plugged in with the battery taken out?
     
  12. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Sure, why not. That may reduce the life of the adapter but I don't think it affects anything else.

    Why not use that kind of extension cord with a switch on it, and switch it on every time you power on the notebook, switch it off when powering off. That's what i do for my components that are powered via adapters, so that I don't have to unplug them all the time.
     
  13. jeffreyac

    jeffreyac Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmmm... so, leaving the battery there all the time may reduce the life of the battery, but leaving the battery out to protect it may reduce the life of the adapter? That's a bummer - guess I'll have to pick which of my kids ... er... components... I like the most... :)
     
  14. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Not completely true. Since you were using AC power all the time anyhow, the duration by which the adapter is used is NOT larger if you remove the battery.
     
  15. passive101

    passive101 Notebook Deity

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    We have 2 Asus notebooks. Neither one of them has a battery in them as they mainly just sit at a desk. Neither have any issues as they don't move usually.
     
  16. Delta_CT

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    Slightly off-topic, but I hate creating new threads...

    I've noticed that plugging my adapter into the wall creates larger than normal sparks. Just wanted to see if it is just me, or whether it is common to users with larger power bricks.
     
  17. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Do you plug it in the wall before plugging it in the computer, or after (i.e., is there a load on it from the first moment or not)?

    Not sure if it makes a difference though. I don't get many sparks, also not from the 90W adapter.
     
  18. Delta_CT

    Delta_CT Notebook Evangelist

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    I always leave the DC side plugged into the computer (except when travelling) and then plug the AC side into the wall (no powerbar). Most of the times I have my battery out, so maybe I'll try it a few times with the battery in. Just wanted to check with the NBR community since I know there's a lot of G50 owners.

    I's also think that with 120V here, the sparks should be smaller than those who use 220V.
     
  19. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    Is it ok to keep your car running overnight? NO!
    it is not ok to keep your laptop on when not in use. It should be turned off or hibernated. Laptops should be warranted in miles not years. Keep your laptop off it will last longer, that is a fact. I am not talking about the battery either
     
  20. passive101

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    Of course then you bring in the debate of turning computers on and off the power supply will eventually die from this and in environments where they are on at all times last for much longer such as factories and dirty environments.
     
  21. Geared2play.com

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    That is 100% wrong. It is the biggest lie ever created. It may have applied in 1970. Today computers do not benefit in any way from being run 24/7. I dont care about the powersupply (it does not hurt it to turn it on and off 10 20 or even 50 times a day). WHat hurts most is your hard drive which has moving parts, your fan and anything with a ball bearing that moves dying. The number one reason why a laptop breaks down or experiences problems? Is because of hours of use which results in the radiators clogging up. Most people dont know and dont care about this. The guy that runs his laptop 24/7 has 99.99% chance of having to return it for warranty within 2 years unless he cleans the radiator
     
  22. jimbob83

    jimbob83 Notebook Evangelist

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    I agree with E.B.E. to plug it into an extension cord that you can switch it off when you're not using it. I don't think leaving it plugged in all the time will hurt it, but why not do the environment a favor and save some electricity?
     
  23. Geared2play.com

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    Leaving it plugged in while off will not hurn it however i think the O.P. meant leaving it lugged in and ON 24/7.
     
  24. passive101

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    cool thanks for the info.
     
  25. ramgen

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    I think the manufacturer warranty should have considered that already. So if ASUS is offering a 2-year warranty, that means that they guarantee you that their machines will not give you a problem even if you run them 7/24 for 2 years.

    So if you are planning to sell your laptop before the manufacturer warranty expires, feel free to do anything you want.


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  26. Avilan

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    Personally I use my X57Vn with the AC cord plugged in 95% of the time. Basically I use the battery as an UPS, as do my wife. Battery time for me would only be a concern if it went <1 hour, and only really worry me if it went <30 minutes.
    Since we primarily use these instead of work stations (and for gaming) there is no need running on battery; besides both these machines (My wife has a DELL 1520) are cumbersome enough for being 15" that carrying them around and "use it anywhere" is just annoying.

    Now my wife's DELL 1520 has been run like this by me and then her for about two years now and it still has a battery time at maybe 80% of what it was when it was new.
    I just got my X57Vn last Sunday, so I have not used it that much yet. Can't tell you what the battery life would be yet.

    Now to make things clear that is while using it. We always unplug everything when done for the day (or even when it's say lunch or dinner time, since we have our dining room table in the living room and we use it both as work table and dinner table).

    Anyway, bottom line is: Do you plan on using the battery as you do on a small netbook, or like the "cool kids" in comercials (everyone is using the laptop in bed, or on the couch, or out in the park, or while camping...) then yes, it might pay off to do all the little tricks in the book to save battery life.
    If you are only going to use the battery when you need to show something to a friend for 10 minutes, or while carrying the computer to a different room... Do what I do.
     
  27. ViciousXUSMC

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    True but a smart person will put it to sleep/hybernate in those modes it uses virtually no power, my desktop with a 750w psu, dual video cards, overclock quad core cpu ect ect uses 1w of power in S3 sleep :p

    It wakes up instantly.
     
  28. franzerich

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    My last battery of an Asus Notebook was plugged in all the time and the notebook was used extensively, almost as a desktop replacement. It lived for about 2 years. Then the first problematic signs appeared showing much less battery time than usual, reloading of the battery took forever, battery time ran out very quick. Then it died.
    I don't know how long the battery was supposed to work, but I'm pretty sure, that I could've easily extended the battery's life if I had unplugged the battery most of the time.
     
  29. ramgen

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    That's correct. You have to discharge/recharge the battery periodically in order to prolong its life. You can do that while the laptop is running. Just take out the power cord and when the battery is about to die, plug the AC cord back. You don't have to shut down your machine.

    When I said "the laptop will not give you any problem if you run 7/24" I meant the hardware (such as CPU, RAM, GPU etc.) except the battery.


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  30. jimbob83

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    You may be confusing how much power your computer components draw from the power supply with how much power your power supply draws from the grid. PC power supplies aren't 100% efficient and your power supply will be pulling much more than 1W from the grid on sleep or hibernate. According to an Antec spokesperson on the BBC, your computer will be drawing "5 to 60 watts and beyond." (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/4929594.stm)
     
  31. Delta_CT

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    Vicious, I remember you have one of those kill-a-watt meters, so you can measure the true power draw at the outlet, right?