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    Discussion in 'Asus' started by DeathOrgy, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. DeathOrgy

    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    ...to create a profile like you can with the Nvidia control panel to have your CPU overclock at startup? I have a G72GX if that is relevant.
     
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    You can with SetFSB. I don't think the Asus power4gear/turbogear does though.
     
  3. DeathOrgy

    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    Well, I can overclock with Setfsb, but as far as I can tell there's no setting for a profile or to preload the overclock at startup.
     
  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You can make a batch file and put it in your startup folder.
    Code:
    @echo off
    set incr=5
    set FSB=240 
    set PLL=ICS9LPR501SGLF
    
    
    c:\setfsb\setfsb -w20 -s%FSB% -i%incr% -cg[%PLL%]
    
    That is the file I use.
    You can modify it for yourself.

    I recomend using task manager in vista/win7.
     
  5. DeathOrgy

    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    Is incr the increments to increase by? So it won't just instantly OC to what I want it at (which would freeze my comp)? I have no idea how to create a batch file, though. : /
     
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    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5109631&postcount=1


    Getting SetFSB and Crystal CPUID to Start at Boot

    1) Go to Control Panel -> Classic View -> Administrative Tasks -> Task Scheduler -> Task Scheduler Library and click on “Create Task” on the right
    2) Enter an appropriate title and description. You can choose to whether have it start at boot or logon; they are essentially the same for our purposes.
    3) Go to the Triggers tab, create a new one like below.

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    4) Go to the Actions tab, create a new one like below.

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    Just browse for your SetFSB executable. Under the commands, “-w##” means that the program will have a delay of # seconds before starting, “-s###” will set the CPU to ### times 10 in MHz (ie to get 2.5Ghz, use “-s250” ;), “-b1” will have the program run in the background, and “-q” makes the GUI invisible.

    5) For Crystal CPUID and undervolting, repeat steps 1-3 above but in step 4, instead, do this:

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    Just browse for your Crystal CPUID executable. Under the commands, “/CQ” enables multiplier management and “/HIDE” minimizes the program to the system tray.

    There appears to be a problem with Crystal CPUID and SetFSB running after you return from sleep, but that can be easily fixed. (Courtesy from SirHase)



    Basically, what happens is that it looks in the system log for that particular logged event, which is the resumption from sleep mode, and then starts the program.

    Notes: I personally delay Crystal CPUID for 30 seconds from login before it starts (look under the trigger section) and SetFSB for 15 seconds because I have found online that there may be potential issues if you start them immediately and you’re on battery. That, however, is not confirmed at all but it doesn’t hurt and its easy to do. If you like to leave your computer on for a long time (3 days or more), go to the Settings tab and uncheck the box that says stop program after running for 3 days.

    It’s also probably wise to make sure that the box that prevents multiple instances of the program running is checked just in case you don’t try to apply contradictory settings due to multiple CPUIDs running or something like that.


    If you don't like everything automated and want to do it yourself via clicking a shortcut, it is perfectly doable.


    Originally Posted by Forge
    -Download and run CrystalCPUID (Refer to Tev's undervolting section)
    -Go to Function, then "Intel Enhanced SpeedStep Control"
    -In the window that pops up, note that the standard voltage--for the G51--is set at 1.250 volts, while multiplier is 7.5x
    -Click "Enable change voltage"
    -In the "New Voltage" drop-down selector, select a new voltage. (Note: I opt for 1.150, since it's a fairly large voltage drop and I haven't had impairment in games with and without overclocking to 2.4 GHz.)
    -Confirm the new voltage
    -Run some tests to ensure it's stable (Refer to Tev's undervolting section)
    -After, go back to that same window (function -> Intel Enhanced SpeedStep Control) and click the "Create Shortcut on Desktop" button.
    -An icon will appear on your desktop, with the multiplier and voltage settings you specified.
    -When you wish to activate your undervolt, simply run the shortcut. CPU-Z will confirm that your voltages have been set.





    Note: this above doesn't let your CPU change multipliers under different modes but it is a moot point if you have all of the multipliers running at the same voltage.

    There is a way to create a shortcut that enables multiplier management.

    1) Just create a shortcut of your Crystal CPUID executable and go to properties. It will have a Target box with "Target Filepath" ie something like "C:\Program Files\Crystal CPUID\CPUID.exe"
    2) Add the following right after that filepath "-CQ -HIDE" so you end up with the following in the Target box: "Target Filepath" -CQ -HIDE

    The same concept goes with creating a CPU overclocking shortcut. Instead, just get a shortcut for SetFSB and add "-s### -b1 -q" after the "Target Filepath" instead.
     
  7. DeathOrgy

    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    Wow, thanks for the info. If I set it to 230, will it OC to 2.3 ghz in one big jump or with gradual increases up to that speed? If I try to go directly to 2.3 from 2.0 my computer freezes.
     
  8. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes.

    just open notepad, copy the code there. Save the file. Then rename the file to *.bat

    But I would just follow EIements guide, it will work better ;)
    BTW, +rep to you EIement :)
     
  9. Lanaya

    Lanaya Templar Assassin

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    DeathOrgy, please remove the quote of my ENTIRE POST from your post please, unnecessary waste of space (anyone with a small resolution will be forced to scroll like theres no tomorrow)
     
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    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    I removed it. Would you know the answer to my question? Do I have to add another entry in order to make it gradually increase or something?
     
  11. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yes, just add "-i".

    It will work great.
     
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    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    With a number after it right? Like putting five would be as if I were increasing the slider by five over and over? And does it matter where it goes in the order of -w -s -b -q ? Sorry, these are probably stupid questions, but I don't want to mess things up.
     
  13. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yes.

    No the order doesn't matter.

    So what CPU do you have and how far do you overclock?
     
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    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    I have a Q9000 2.0 ghz, and I can only go to about 2.39 ghz before it freezes my computer, so I usually just go to 2.3.
     
  15. moral hazard

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    So is it your CPU becoming unstable or your ram?

    You can try this to find out:
    Run ORTHOS on the "stress CPU" setting.
    Then run ORTHOS on the "blend" setting.

    If you get no errors on the "stress CPU" setting, but you get an error on the "blend" setting, it means your ram is unstable.

    You can flash a lower frequency onto your ram with thaiphoon burner to make it stable.
    Or you can even raise the CAS latency.
     
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    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    I'm not sure, but I can try those programs tomorrow. It's a bit late; I should get some sleep.
     
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    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    Is it possible to do the overclocking with a shortcut instead of it being automated? If so...how?
     
  18. Lanaya

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    Moral Hazard's original method would work fine, just do not put it in the startup folder. run it manually.
     
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    DeathOrgy Notebook Geek

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    Is this exactly how it should look? But change the FSB to 230 for 2.3 ghz (or is FSB the number to the right of the slider? Like 570/760)and put my own PLL in. "c:\setfsb\setfsb -w20 -s%FSB% -i%incr% -cg[%PLL%]" - this part I'm not sure if I put it as it is into the notepad file or if I insert the numbers inside the %'s. Also, once you have a batch file made, how do you run it?
     
  20. moral hazard

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    That is exatly how it should look.

    Your Q9000 has a 266mhz FSB, for 2.3ghz you need to set the FSB to 307mhz.

    This is what you should copy into notepad:
    Code:
    @echo off
    set incr=5
    set FSB=307 
    set PLL=ICS9LPR501SGLF (put your own PLL here)
    
    
    c:\setfsb\setfsb -w0 -s%FSB% -i%incr% -cg[%PLL%]
    
    Also you have to put your setfsb folder (containing setfsb) in disk C.
     
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    Then save the file.

    The rename it to myOC.bat or whatever.bat
     
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    Yeah, my Setfsb is already in C. Specifically, C:\Program Files (x86)\Setfsb\setfsb.exe, so I assume I just put that instead of the one you listed. Thanks for the help! I'm gonna try this now. How do you run batch files, though?
     
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    Alright, I renamed the file MyOC.bat, but it's still seen as a txt file, and I can't edit the txt portion of the file name. Any ideas?
     
  24. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    open explorer>tools>folder options>view
    uncheck "hide extensions for known file types".
     
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    Thanks! :)
     
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    Hmm...I tried it, but it didn't work. The batch file was copied exactly as you had typed it out. Maybe the file name/location of setfsb messed it up?
     
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    probably 10char
     
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    I moved my Setfsb folder to C out of program files, and now it works. My only gripe is that it goes very slowly and doesn't work in the background (I can see setfsb open and slowly increase), but otherwise it works great. Is there something I can put in the batch file to make it go a little faster (but not upping the increments it increases by) or run in the background?
     
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    EDIT: double post
     
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    you can make it quiet (i.e. you will not see setfsb open or anything).

    just add this:
    Code:
    -q
    
     
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    bringing this back up .

    when I overclock with setfsb, when my clock is set I shut it down since you don't need it anymore. I don't like having extra processes running in the background for nothing.

    what code would i need to write to shut it down after it has set the OC?

    thanks
     
  32. moral hazard

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    It will close by itself, you dont need to do anything.

    You can check using task manager.
     
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    Thank you so much moral

    Can I also make the command window quiet ?
     
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    ahh cool. good to know.

    so lets say I want the program to start after 15 seconds, fsb 230, increase by 5mhz, run in background and then shut off, i would have to write it like that :

    -w15 -s230 -i5 -b1 -q
     
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    Yes.

    I don't know, sorry.
     
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    for some reason it doesn't work.

    I did everything right I think and it doesn't run.

    I see the setfsb appear for half a second and then nothing.

    I check with cpu-z ans its still at stock speed.
     
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    Even 15 seconds later?

    Maybe you should just test with -w0 -s230 -i5
     
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    yep even 15 seconds . I tried couple of times.

    I waited a bit and then opened cpu-z and its like it stoped overclocking. The fsb was changed , but i guess it stopped when I opened cpu-z.

    does this mean I can't touch tha notebook for couple minutes before using it ?

    there is even once it froze windows . I had to hard reboot. weird
     
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    setfsb doenst start at log on as i set it.what should i do?