Italian Asus G1S and G2S (Santa Rosa refresh)!

Aparrently they will be out in Italy May 21st.
http://notebookitalia.it/asus-g1s-e-g2s-directx-10-e-santa-rosa-per-i-gamers.html

Can't read italian, but spec is there.

And I just got my G1 last week! fecking lol

 

Weak, doesn't have DDR800 =/ . Some of the resellers will probably have that option hopefully

 

te first line of notebooks will not have all the goodies or the options as the ones that come after a while so it would be great to wait
how it all turns out only time will tell

 

Still. Looks like this first batch G2S will get a new screen 17" WUXGA (1920x1200)

woot!

 

I meant to post this in the Asus section, can someone move this?

Or if doesn't bother anyone, I guess it can stay here

 

Caratteristiche tecniche Asus G1S:

* Processore: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 (2,2Ghz, 4MBcache L2)
* Memoria: 2048MB DDR2 667MHz
* Schermo: 15,4" WSXGA+ (1680x1050) ColorShine TFT-LCD, con tecnologia Asus Splendid Video Intelligent
* Scheda video: Nvidia GeForce 8600M con 256MB di memoria dedicata
* Hard Disk: SATA 160GB 5400rpm
* Drive ottico: masterizzatore DVD SuperMulti con supporto DL
* Networking: 10/100/1000 LAN, Intel 4965ABGN WLAN, Bluetooth
* Porte: jack cuffie e microfono, S/PDIF, VGA, DVI-D, 4 x USB 2.0, IEEE 1394, RJ11 (modem), RJ45 (LAN), S-Video
* Batteria: Li-ion a 8 celle
* Altro: webcam da 1,3MP integrata, sintonizzatore TV analogico-digitale, borsa e mouse ottico
* Sistema Operativo: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
* Dimensioni: 324mm x 284mm x 37.4 mm(W x D x H)
* Peso: 3,1 Kg con batteria

aratteristiche tecniche Asus G2S:

* Processore: Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 (2,2Ghz, 4MBcache L2)
* Memoria: 2048MB DDR2 667MHz
* Schermo: 17" WUXGA (1920x1200) ColorShine TFT-LCD, con tecnologia Asus Splendid Video Intelligent
* Scheda video: Nvidia GeForce 8600M con 256MB di memoria dedicata
* Hard Disk: SATA 200GB
* Drive ottico: masterizzatore DVD SuperMulti con supporto DL
* Networking: 10/100/1000 LAN, Intel 4965ABGN WLAN, Bluetooth
* Porte: jack cuffie e microfono, S/PDIF, VGA, DVI-D, 5 x USB 2.0, IEEE 1394, RJ11 (modem), RJ45 (LAN), S-Video
* Espansioni: lettore di schede di memoria multiformato, ExpressCard
* Batteria: Li-ion a 8 celle
* Altro: webcam da 1,3MP integrata, sintonizzatore TV analogico-digitale, borsa e mouse ottico
* Sistema Operativo: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
* Dimensioni: 410.6mm x 315.6mm x 46.6 mm(W x D x H)
* Peso: 4,4 Kg con batteria

 

thankgod spec are the same and quite readable from anyway and any language the T7500 will always be the T7500 and so on
the specs look quite promising at this stage nevertheless

 

That website is usually reliable even if they don't specify the source of information.
Basically the article says that this refresh could be the reason why in the last months was very difficult if not impossible finding a Asus G1 or G2 in Italy.
Then it describes the features of these new models (chipset Santarosa, increase in screen resolution, GPU Nvidia 8600 with 256 ram of dedicated memory).
The price will be the same (1700 euro for G1, 1900 for G2) as the old versions.

 

1700 EUROs ?!!?

i guess ill get a c90. It seems to better for less money + HDMI and E-SATA

 

Too pricey for me

 

nice specs, wont worry about pricing cause when the G2 was first intorduced it was projected at 3grand

 

There are C90 prices already floating around?

Take into account these are G1 Europe prices and the G1 is expensive. I paid 1700 Eur for my current G1, so if they if they up the specs and maintain the price, it won't all bad, IMO.

 

Moved from News/Reviews to ASUS.

 

For the C90:
Milestonepc.com has the barebone listed for 1049.00 USD, so if you were to buy the other parts from them or newegg.com or something, its easy to fully load it for only 1500-1700 USD.

I was waiting for the G1 refresh, but it looks like the c90 will have better performance for a cheaper price and will be available sooner.

 

In that case prices for the C90 in North America are looking much better. Can they be bought as of now?

Don't think the C90 is available in Europe yet.

 

Yes but as i said also the previous version of G1 was 1700 euro, so i would expect the also here in the US the price won't increase

 

Yes, its about $1900 in the US.
I don't see the point of the G2 at all; its got the same specs as the smaller G1...Hopefully they will update it with the 8800 card to give it more power.

 

hpefully yes if the chassis and cooling capabilities allow it
that will allow to establish quite a difference between the smaller G1 and the G2 other than the larger chassis and screen and the green vs red lights

 

Crestline doesn't support DDRII-800 so if resellers do offer it, it will be for naught anyways.

 

Let's consider what you just said.

$1049 for barebones
T7400 is currently ~$440
2x1GB DDRII 667 SO-DIMM - $100
160GB 5400RPM HD - $105-115
Windows Vista Home Premium OEM - $110
Intel 4965AGN - $70-80

Total: ~$1880-1900

That's not including the fact that barebones come with 1 year warranty instead of 2 years for the ensemble and you have to put it together.

 

I don't think it can, the chassis of the G2/A7J was not design for card tat is so big in footprint and generates so much heat. But the higher resolution is very welcomed...

Emm.. i think you would get the G1 at about 1700usd to 1800usd late in the year. In europe, the price is always 200 to 300usd more expensive in US..

 

But it uses a CONROE ... so E6600 2.4GHZ is only like $235 so but the rest of what you said Its about $1700.

 

Just realized the C90 is Conroe, has a desktop CPU, and from what I gathered battery times take a major hit.

Don't know if I'd be willing to live with ****ty battery times.

 

am i reading right, 256MB dedicated? Isnt the 7700 512MB dedicated?

 

Well, it's a 8600, theoretically will be faster than the 7700 even with just 256mb dedicated...

 

For the person who said the g2 should have a 8800

when the g2 reaches the market there wont be a 17 inch notebook with an 8800.

It will be the best gaming notebook on the market. tied with about 12 others
It will probably sell very well.

at that point a sager 5670 will have a 7950 gtx still and more people will want to invest in the dx 10 gpu

 

Emm... at that price.. maybe not..they need to lower the it maybe until 1800euros or less... but this is the launch price, it should drop there after a few months..

 

The Go 8800 won't be available until later this year (possibly post-September)

 

G1S looks pretty cool, looking forward to finding out more about US availability and pricing though.

Can't wait to hear some benchmarks, etc. as well, see what sort of real-world performance people get out of the 8600M.

 

Yes, I know. Thats why I said they should update the G2 with the 8800. Otherwise, I can see no real reason to go for a G2 as opposed to the G1. At least now it isn't less powerful than the G1, so I guess thats a positive....

 

is there any information about the G1S releasing in the US or in Asia (specifically in Japan, where I'll be residing from May to August?)

 

would be nice to have a G1 and/or G2 barebones

 

I wonder why they stuck with "only" supporting the T7500, why not offer a top-end T7700 processor model ? Maybe the price premium is just too much (just like T7600) and it will scare off potential buyers.

 

I'm pretty sure that they want to keep the price point down at a certain range. When there are price drops, they'll do so and bump the specs a little higher.

 

Well in today's G1, Asus is offering the T7200, which is 3 down from the top. The T7500 will be only 2 down from the top; it's not like it'll be that bad

 

I have to agree with one of the above posts. Why only stick a midrange card in there and put such a high res. screen? The 8600(any version) will simply not run newer games at 1600x1050. (save me the techno talk about lowering settings, downloading small fairies that increase core speed etc.) It is a great laptop with a somewhat underpowered graphics card, in my opinion of course. I do not think I would spend $2300 on it when I can get a Clevo 570ru for around the same price and hopefully with a 8800 or 7950gtx card.

 

Well, for whatever reason, Asus seems to have decided to make the G2 not a "high end' gaming laptop..... this is true of the current G2 as well (which only features an X1700).

I can't personally understand why they don't want to make the G2 more powerful.

 

because Asus is smarter than that.
Why make a state-of-the-art lap with all the best cpu/gpu when only a small percentage of buyers will actually plop down the greenbacks for it
This is a mass made laptop so before they even upgrade any component they have to access the current G2's sales units and decide can they match or surpass its figures.
Its costs close to 200grand++ to make dies cutters, mold injecters, fabricator machines to make most consumer electronics products.
No matter what any computer maker puts in their fixed laptop there will always be some people saying they shoulda did this and the shoulda did that.
For that reason alone is why Asus has barebones.
I just wish i had a choice of having the G1/G2 casing

 

mikeymike, I fully understand....... it's just that the Asus G2 still ends up being kind of a confusing product, relatively.

Just because it is intended as more of a mass-market laptop doesn't necessarily seem like a reason to only stick in a GPU meant for 15" laptops into a 17" "gaming" laptop.

Just as an example, Toshiba's P105 is around $2000, and currently features a 7900GS. Not the most powerful GPU, but it is one that is more powerful than the GeForce 7700/X1700.

The current G2 would make more sense to me if they stuck in a GeForce 7900GS..... it would at least make it more competitive in the "mass-market gaming laptop" category.

 

The G2 is for a 'wannabe' gamer, it has all the physical potential but not the internal. There is a really big market for high end notebooks, especially one from Sager/Clevo, almost half their models are 17" gaming beasts. ASUS knows this, and they know they can not match. So they tone it down and give it a facelift(the A7). They have, however, the multimedia W2 and potentially the gaming barebones.

They probably did their research and focused on one certain market, whether or not it was a moderate sucess or a failure, it's for them to decide.

 

The G2 is confusing mainly because it has the same specs as the G1 and a similar look, but its a lot bigger and heavier and also more expensive. There doesn't seem to be any real reason to buy the G2 over the G1.

 

G2 discussion aside, is the G1 still a relatively good model to buy?

 

which model? The old or the new?
The old.. i would wait a few more months if can for the new G1 and a lowerer price than the launch..

 

I think the g1 is going to be a model with a top level cpu and go for around $2200 from now on so if you want the 1800 version with a t7200 it might be good,


but actually Id pay the extra money for the new one personally.

If you get the santa rosa you could upgrade it to quad core someday. And dx 10. I mean I tihnk you might get a year of technology time for the extra money.

 

Ya the biggest problem really with the g2, the a8jp and f3jp is that they had a card called the x1700. They all had to be sold at discount months later.

when nvidia made a 7700, it was like a 7600 gt. But the x1700 turned out to be bogus really. Its literally worse than a x1600 if you consider it doesnt have the ati battery management software.

So if the x1700 were at least the top mid range card like the 7700 go is, g2 would have had more buyers.

And a huge percentage of all asus models sold are the g1 and the a8js.

 

does anyone know for sure that the g1s has pci express card instead of pcmia, and does it have esata?

btw will asus ever offer a docking station?

 

Hrmm. From those specs on that italian site, ExpressCard is mentioned for the G2S, but not for the G1S. It would be kind of incredible for them to have still not upgraded it to ExpressCard from PCMCIA Card, but who knows.

 

The G1s 'SHOULD' have ExpressSlot, the current G1p doesn't as ASUS did not want to change the A7j model build(it would cost money, which would add to G1 costs). That could explain the sudden price increase.

 

well my main concern is that i need a new laptop fairly quickly for overseas work. with the g1s coming out i would have liked to wait for it, but it seems like i won't be seeing that option anytime soon. unless i can see the g1s out here by around the 25th or so i might have to bite and get the old model g1.

 

I think it was only a problem with the G2; the A8Jp and F3Jp were both much cheaper than the versions with the Go7700, so it wasn't that big of a deal. For the A8Jp especially, it was an exceptionally good deal at $1300, when the A8Js was still at $1600. The G2, on the other hand, was $100 more than the G1, which had a better graphics card, was smaller and lighter, higher screen res, and otherwise identical specs.

And yes, now the two best selling Asus models seem to be the A8Js and the G1. If only they still made the W3....(ok, sorry, that was off topic).