Just received w3v

Wow this thing is beautiful, it is kind of heavier den i thought it would be but it looks fantastic! and for the heat everyone is talking about. It's not that bad i dont think it should be anything to worry about

 

Welcome to the club!

Thanks,
Justin
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okay.. maybe it does get a little bit warm...

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by onetake

 

You crack me up Eightone...

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by eightone

 

I was just reading RobotMules W3V review in detail for the first time and noticed he said that the travelers drawer doesn't have the ability to store stuff within it...I was under the impression It did. Can anyone who actually owns one comment/confirm this. Is it simply a weight/space saving device, or does it also have the ability to store small things within it? (Credit card, money, pack of gum[ ], etc...)

Thanks [8D]

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by CalibratedComa

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by eightone

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

You guys are bad...

Thanks,
Justin
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yea, i don't know why we're so perverted in this forum. i think it all started with what's her name who bought the W1. [V] but then again it's hard to resist when we've got a member by the name of BBQmynuts [ )]

PS. these smilies really suck...that red-nosed clown looks like a drunk and this guy [V] looks constipated. [ ]

 

how hot does this thing really get? Are we talking like the same level of heat as P4 laptops?

 

Yea, how hot does it really get?

I just ordered mine today, so please let me know.

For example if I am running demanding tasks, will it burn me? Is it just unpleasant? how unpleasant?

 

I was kidding about the gum, that's why I specifically put that face beside it...Obviously anything prone to melting isn't such a great idea...I just wanted someone to clear things up...because It seemed like in the review, he said you couldn't put anything in there...so I was curious to see if this too was something that changed with the W3V's actual arival!

Thanks for letting me know [8D]

 

To put two centrino systems together in a closed box still wouldn't create the heat of a p4 system.

Basically, we're not talking about the cpu at all. If anything, the gpu, but more so certain aftermarket hard drives that don't appear to want to want to work properly.

The real bottom line about the "heat" is, out of the box you have a 1.86ghz cpu, a 64mb x600 gpu, and a 60gb/5400rpm hard drive...... all in a tiny little package. When you put this into a package like this, you have less thickness between those parts and your body and less room for larger heatpipes, fans and say.. more vents. Is the heat produced, normal? Yes. Is it anywhere near the level of degrading performance or worse, the lifespan of the components? No, not even close. Have 1-2% of W3 owners complain that their right palm gets clamy? Of course, we've all read about it. Does it appear to happen on the V6 which is virtually the same system but even thinner? No. I'd also think that the aluminum palmrest on the V6 would help expell more of the heat and therefore actually get warmer. So, I don't know of the few dissenting voices, who is experiencing this more with supplimental drives which may never have been testing on the system, or if they are just thinner skinned and can feel the differing of temperatures more so than others......

"Complaining" as some have put it, isn't really an exact science and without everyone with a laser therometer reading that they all have the same temperatures or that some people are higher than others, than there is no telling what's what. Either there are a few who ended up with systems that are hotter than others (which would be defective), or like I said before, some peoples opinion on what is bothersome is different than someone elses. Computers create heat and this is one of the more feature rich systems we've ever had, while being one of the smaller systems we've ever had. Those are the same reasons it's been certainly the most popular system we've ever had as well. At the same time, one thing that apparently likes a small feature packed computer is heat. It's still there and I know if Asus could have made it even better, they would have. Before most of you even know Asus made notebooks, their mantra was all about the thermal envelope and if a system couldn't conform to the heat they had to disperse, than a design went in the garbage. It's still the first place they start today, so if I think there is anyone who could have done a better job, it would have been Asus. Lets wait and see how the notebooks that come out that compete with this model do in comparitive testing...... that's all we can do.

Thanks,
Justin
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Kai,

I filled out your questionaire and I think I addressed some of these things. Right now I've got my system on running doom 3 and I've got the cpu/gpu/ram cover off my w3 and the heat just doesn't seem to be coming from the gpu (any more than it's coming from the cpu.... I didn't think anyone was reporting high temps in the upper right hand corner of the system at all.....

Thanks,
Justin
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

hmm for mine, i am getting heat by the fan, and some top parts of my keyboard is hot when it is connected via A/C and super performance =P

and i dont know if this is suppose to be normal or not but a part of my windows xp sticker .. the white part.. there is a small circle that looks like a burnt mark lol

and the keyboard is pretty warm, maybe its cuz im connected through ac. i didn't undervolt cuz i am too newbie at that thingie

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ

 

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Notice how hot the air is that is coming out of the vent area? That's not just the cpu... I have't taken the motherboard out of the W3 yet, so I can't say whether there is a daughterboard in there or not (i've seen asus do cards a half dozen different ways...... but even if there is, it doesn't mean it's easily accessible.... all they need to be able to do is reach the gpu itself in order to cool it.

Thanks,
Justin
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I know it isn't just the CPU... of course it isn't, it's the only friggin' fan in the machine! It's sucking hot air from the entire notebook... but what you seem to be just glossing over is the fact that they temperature of the air being pumped out rises greatly when the GPU is running at its max clock and is under load.

It seems that all of the heat generators are located on the right-half side of the notebook, as the left wouldn't warm much at all if not for the aluminum beneath the keyboard. I think it would be really helpful if you could take a look under the fan assembley and confirm exactly what is under there. Like I said, I've looked... but it isn't labled (like most GPU's are), so I'm under the impression that is part of the sonoma chipset.

Kai

 

I concur with BBQ that heavy gaming increases the heat of the hard drive to levels I'm unable to reach in any other manner when using the W3V. This would lead me to believe that the GPU is at the very least contributing to a rise in the heat of the hard drive. How I don't know. But as he said before, it's a case of common sense.

 

Gaming is increasing the heat produced by the cpu, gpu and hard drive..... however the heat the hard drive is producing is strictly from the use of the drive while gaming.....

Thanks,
Justin
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

The gpu is being cooled though buddy..... If you really want to test your system, you'll actually feel around and notice certain things.

1. of course the gpu is going to get hotter as it works - the difference is how much hotter it would be WITHOUT a cooler. If you put your finger on top of the gpu (while the cooler is in place), you'll feel heat being drawn from the gpu...... this heat is not radiating out from the cooler, but rather across the cooler and is being blown out the side with the added heat from the cpu. The heat coming from the side of the computer is wicked high. No one will deny that, but it's not important, because thats the heat it's getting rid of. The temps for the cpu and gpu would be astronomical if they fan turned off, or worse, the coolers were taken off.

Thanks,
Justin
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

Kai,

PULL THE MOTHERBOARD.

It's the only other chip in the system.... on the other side of the unit, under the keyboard, again I said there was the vram under an aluminum heat spreader.... Other than that, the only other thing I can see on the motherboard was I think the intel high def sound chip. Asus hasn't released a breakdown manual for the W3, but comparing it to the V6's gpu.... yes, I know... all the graphics chips I've ever seen have the model stamped or etched in them.

But like I said.... there isn't much to the system. But, AGAIN... I said the fan assembly (days ago), also seemed to serve two purposes... to hold the fan, but also to be the heatsink for the gpu.

Thanks,
Justin
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

For the most part, I've never seen a north or south bridge on a notebook covered in an sort of thermal pad or passive heatsink.... when you consider the heat the north bridge makes on a desktop, you'd think that's where a lot of heat is produced, but I really don't think so.

My computer is back together... I actually had it together in about 5 minutes after I posted those pictures yesterday... The ONLY other thing which had any sort of "cooler" or "thermal pad" on it.... was the vram, which was about a 2 inches left of the gpu, on the other side of the board.... and the chip which I think was for the sound, but that may have been the south bridge... but either way, it just seemed to be like a thermal pad, if that.

I might take the motherboard out again tomorrow and just photograph the whole thing.... but when the gpu is working, so is the hard drive.... I mean, the air coming out of the side vent is hot and gets hotter when you're gaming or something else... but thats the heat it's getting rid of... The hard drive will also get hotter, but it doesn't have much place to go... I don't know why undervolting the cpu and underclocking the gpu kept the hard drive cooler... I can't explain that, but obviously when you see that, I can understand why you think it must have to do with those things you changed..

Thanks,
Justin
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

 

They can't... that solution would have to be something Asus deems important enough to add, most likely on a design refresh.

I didn't say it was something that could be quickly and easily implemented, all I said was that it was the optimal solution.

No need to get cheeky, boyo.[ ]

Kai

 

Just a quick question how are users suffering from high temps supposed to install an extra fan without voiding their warranty?
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Underpantman

 

Its not being cheeky, your the one who said that it was a solution, when it quite clear isnt viable and never will be, thus it is silly to even mention it as one. I was mearly clarifying YOUR statement.
Why bother repeately informing end users of things you wish ASUS would do? It doesn't help the small number of users that are experiencing problems with heat.
And that is my point and I dont see it as cheeky. Just common sense
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ
[br I like being under the impression that most of the users here aren't morons... and I'm sure you do too.

Kai
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Exactly, everyone is smart here, thus you never needed mention the extra fan, because that would obviously cool things. Its a pointless statement
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No, don't stop posting. Your posts are some of the most informed and rational I've seen on this forum since I joined.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Sencha

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Underpantman

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by BBQmyNUTZ
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I don't mind discussion at all, but I don't consider mis-information and "because that's Asus' warranty" as constructive responses.

BTW, what's with all the childish hazing, threats of bodily harm, and character assassination?[]

Kai
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mmm... I never mentioned asus warranty nor did I attack your character or phyiscally threaten you etc. Are you actually reading any of my posts? You have not yet responded to one of them logically, or answered any of the questions I have asked you.
And like I said there will be no more discussion like this. It is of topic.
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I have no problem with you posting, but you seem to think that your posts should never be challanged. Ever post is up for debate including myself, its a forum. If you look back over the past month I have supported you and disagreed with you on various issues. Thats what its all about. I have only ever deleted one of your posts due to vulgar language, yet you seem to think that everyone is out to get you, unless of couse they agree with you 100%. This is the last I am going to say on the issue, to many topics are going off topic over personal disagreements. Post away, just be prepared for your comments to be robustly discussed. That is all I ask, just keep an open mind and try not to take everything so personally.
Thanks
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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Underpantman