Keeping the laptop cool.

Just wondering for all you people, how do you keep your laptop cool?
I have already applied AS5 on both my CPU & GPU, but temps are still quite high (92 max) and gets uncomfortable after a hour of gaming.

I'm wondering how effective laptop coolers are since my G50-VT doesn't blow or take air in from the bottom, it just pushes are out of a vent.

 

It take air in from the bottom. Because of the stupid position of the intake vents, you will have pain finding a good cooler for it. The best for it are Zalman NC2000/NC1000. But you can also make yourself a cheap one, like me (in my signature).
Undervolting also save the day for you.

 

My laptop is already undervolted.

Your homemade cooler has some awesome temp differences, but I'm looking for something that looks a bit better, but still has a reasonable price. The NC2000 is a bit out of my ideal price, but if I can't find any other, I'll have to go with it.

 

At first, I tend to get a cooler. But generic cooler will sure make no mean on G50Vt. And in my country, Cooler Master X1 and Infinite are too expensive for me to give them a try. No Zalman here. But I think 70USD for just 10C drop is not a fair deal. I know that my cooler is ugly, but I'm sure that I won't take it out of my house. And away from my house, I will never do heavy gaming, just some Counter-Strike Source at a LAN Party with my cousins.

 

I don't know why my GPU is this hot btw. Most of the other G50VT owners have it at 85c max, even when overclocked, but mine is 90c.

Can't be my CPU bringing up the GPU temperature since my before/after oc temps on the CPU are the same.


The GPU temps USED to max out at 85c, that was a bit before I got my AS5. But now putting all the clocks (CPU & GPU) back to their stock settings, I still get ~90c. (Temps were going near 90c before I applied AS5)

 

Where do you live? And what's your ambient temp? My friend, Khazak, also have a G50Vt-A1. He work in a hot room with temp as high as 40C. His GPU reach 94C. My room temp is 30C.

 

I live in Canada. The temperature right now is 19c, around the same temp as when it was 85c.

 

So I think the problem is your AS5. Did you put a thin layer on GPU and CPU ? Those grease was make to help cool down thing, but if you put too much, they will heat up thing instead.

 

No, I meant I saw temperature increases before applying the AS5.

When I first bought it, I overclocked and it still maxed out at 85c. Around a week later, it would be 90c. Now it's been a couple weeks and still around that temp.

But yes, I just put on a little rice grain then spread the rest out with my finger.

I did move where the port my mouse was connected, but I doubt that would change anything.

 

How do you thing your lovely mouse can heat up your laptop?
If after applying AS5, your temp is not changed, you should clean it and reapply. Just a thin layer. You only need somewhat a small drop of water for 4 square inches. For G50Vt CPU and GPU, you need much more little.

 

I already did twice, still no diff. I DID apply a thin layer.

 

Your lappy is quite new, dust didn't have a chance to infiltrate yours. I can't think of anything possible of cause your lappy heat up in a 19C room. Have you tried lasted nVIDIA driver. That maybe my last suggestion. Sorry for not being able to help.

 

Yeah I tried using like 4 other drivers, thanks anyways.

 

Is the fan working properly? Does it accelerate to maximum speed when the CPU/GPU heat up?

(You would need other users to tell you what the maximum speed that is, and then a software to check it against your own speed, using for instance Everest.)

 

It's possible to check the speed of G50Vt's fan?
And E.B.E., don't worry about his fan. If it is broken, his GPU would reach 110C and shut down (like ClutchX2's, one time he forget to connect his fan).

 

Well Everest reads the speed of my fan, so I don't see why not the G50. (I'm not fully sure the readings are correct on my computer though)

Yeah, for sure if the fan would be completely broken that would happen. But here we seem to be looking for a more insidious fault. I imagined the fan might not reach its maximum speed for some reason, for instance, bugs in the ATK drivers or a conflict with some other power management software.

Another (highly wild) idea would be a slightly warped heatsink, or perhaps some other fault in the heatpipe that affects its heat conductivity.

 

Yeah my fine is working properly and speeding up, it is quiet until the GPU hits around 60c, then goes up at around 70c, 80c, then 1 more time once I hit 92c.

 

The stock paste on my G50VT-A1 was HORRBILE! I got my Idle down over 10C and my max down over 16C by just doing a correct paste job with some AS5. Although my temperatures were through the roof! ~106C GPU gaming!!

 

That could either mean they did a bad job on yours, or I applied mine wrong.

How did you apply your AS5? Small pea size then spread?

 

will the cryo LX work with a 18.4" inch laptop like the w90?
It say the cryo can fit a 19" but the review show it fit perfectly a 17" inch.

 

I think nexuscom have posted his question in a wrong place . This thread is about how to keep laptop cool, but only G50Vt (by far).
After reading about your G50Vt, it seem that I'm a lucky guy . My laptop out of the box run pretty good in a hot room (30C).

 

O M G........ Please.... Tell... Me.... You are joking right. I'm glad you never bought the surface purifier, would be pointless after sticking your finger in the paste.....

 

Agh was there another way I was supposed to apply it? I had a glove on and spread it out with that.

 

ughh a
razor blade ?
credit card?
drivers license ?

 

????? where where you going with this?

 

Meaning what I did with my finger would make the AS5 useless?

*edit*
Also when I put the heat sink back on, the AS5 was bumpy from my finger spreading it out then some of it sticking and going up.

 

The best thing you should use is credit card. Razor blade can do some damage to your components, drivers license is somehow flimsy.
When you stretch AS5 with your finger, your dead cell will find a bed in the AS5 and make it useless (reduce its heat conductivity). Even when you do that with glove (rubber, of course, not wool), the stretched AS5 surface is not perfectly even and flat.

 

Hmm, would that make much of a difference? I will be reapplying it later today.

Also any idea my temps went up BEFORE I applied my AS5?

 

The cryo is a monster of a cooler I own one. It will fit the W90.

 

Dan its probably okay but, as the instructions state a finger print is pretty thick and, worse yet what it doesn't mention is mixing finger oil into the paste would reduce how well it conducts heat between particles, now wether or not you would see a difference hard to say.

I hope you atleast washed your hands first.

EDIT - Oh you had a glove on, well sounds better. But still it is best if the paste is even in application, i just thought u used a bare finger lol.

 

I've reapplied using a card and tried to get it abit thinner. Heating up my card in ATITool now and gonna edit with the results.

*edit*
W.O.W.
My GPU temperature is back to normal (if not a bit lower), and my CPU is down 4-6c!

Before (finger):
GPU: 90-92c
CPU: 60-62c

After (gift card):
GPU: 83-87c
CPU: 55-57c

(CPU & GPU were stress tested for 15min+ using Orthos and ATITool)

 

Finger method, I will have to remember that one. I am pretty sure I told you what to apply it with. Good to see the results are better doing it right

 

good to hear that ur laptop is better...finger's problem resolved

 

I you feel lazy or don't have anything to properly stretch the paste, the best way then is don't stretch it . Just put a small pea of AS5 on the center and put the heatsink into position. Tighten it, and then your AS5 is good to go. That's what manufacturer do with their thermal paste. I have broken graphic cards and when I remove their heatsink, I notice that its thermal paste was stretched by the heatsink itself.

 

The way ASUS put it on was not like that lol, they somehow put out an even thickness square in the market part of the heatsink. I would take the gloved finger over nothing. Your suggestion might not cover the entire thermal interface of the chip and remember less conact = less cooling...

 

Yes, I know that leave the heatsink do your dirty work mean the work could not be done perfectly. But it is better than you do that dirty work with your dirty finger, isn't it? On the square surface of my dead GPU, the paste only cover a circle. I don't know which way ASUS chose to apply thermal paste on my lovely CPU and GPU, I don't have enough courage to void my warranty. But it seem that they have just done a good job in my X3.

 

when using your finger get a ziploc bag and turn it inside-out using it as a glove...TADA contaminate free paste

 

Turns out he had a glove on

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834981012 Anyone know if this thing would cool well? lol

 

lol that looks too crazy to work

 

Well my temps are lower so yay.

Anything else I can do without having to put something on the outside of the laptop?

 

Alright another thing. (Thanks for everyone's help)

I read that the PCI-E isn't locked on the G50's motherboard, so overclocking the CPU will raise the PCI-E clock which can lead to HDD failure. Is that true and is there a way I can make the PCI-E clock stay?

I've lowered my overclock on my CPU until I can get a answer, thanks in advance!

 

Undervolt the CPU using RMclock or similar software. That will cut temps usually for both the CPU and GPU and they often share the same heatsink in a laptop.

You could overclock using Clockgen or Setfsb rather than the direct console. In this way you can leave the PCI-e frequency where it is at stock clocks. You will need the PLL code for your motherboard but I think it has already been done so some other G50 owners can chip in and let you know which one to select.

 

He has already undervolted his lappy.
And for PCI-E clock. Raising it only affect the transfer speed of data to GPU (theoretically). Why do you think your HDD could die?

 

I have already undervolted and am using SetFSB to overclock.

I see the 3rd number in SetFSB is the PCI-E and does not seem to move when I overclock, if that number that is shown is the PCI-E number then yeah I feel safe to overclock the CPU.
Can anyone confirm this for me?

 

If that number is around 100 then yup it is the pci -e frequency. I recommend using Clockgen instead it is much easier to use and the interface is much less cluttered. Have fun OCing

 

The number is around 28 so that would mean it's not the PCI-E?

*edit*
GPU temperatures hit 90c in ATITool after around 30 minutes. Argh...

 

I would have thought 90C is fairly normal especially as you have overclocked your GPU to beyond GTS levels. As for the PCI-E try giving Clockgen ago. Once you have selected your PLL code you have just 2 sliders the upper one your fsb and the lower one your pci -e. Upping the PCI-E might allow you a slightly higher CPU overclock but it will reduce the stability of your GPU overclock. Lowering it has the opposite effect so it is basically better to leave it where it is.

 

You don't like any method of outer cooling, so that your undervolting and finding driver are only things you could do for your love .

 

Yes, but my GPU is not overvolted, and my CPU is undervolted.
Returning all the clocks to stock speed still gets it to around 90c.