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    M6800N fan issues with 0213 BIOS version

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by ikovac, Mar 11, 2005.

  1. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Hello everybody!

    First post here, and I did it after I read tons of posts regarding fan speed, noise, temperature issues in various Asus notebooks. I had one "problem" with the new bios release and solved it so maybe this helps.

    I own a M6800N 1.6Ghz 1Gb RAM for a over a year and am very pleased with it. Well at least until I flashed bios with M6N0213A.rom (the newest). First my computer didn't want to come out of hibernation (blocked after the hiberfile was loaded into memory and never showed the login screen). I solved it by entering bios and "loading the optimal settings" or something. I know that it is recommended, but never did it before and it always all worked fine for me. So now I was happy until one evening I was typing something in a very quiet room and realized that my CPU fan if working at (Asus probe) 3000RPM. Well it was strange because the CPU temp at the time was 39 C. And as I had played with Asus probe before and I knew that my fan would go on at 47-50 C. Normal temp while surfing, office, windows etc. is around 42-46 C. I tried cooling, restarting, restoring, but the fan was always on, even with CPU at 32 C. The air in fact was cooling my hand when I tried to check. I tried uninstaling ATKACPI and it worked well with Windows driver, but I like those little buttons and sometimes use Power4Gear, so I needed it back. So I finally decided to "rollback" the bios version and flashed M6N0210A.rom. To do this I had to make dos version and made USB bootable, because crapy Windows Flash utility wouldn't let you install older bios. The computer works like before - no matter what the fan goes OFF at 47 C. Goes ON around 50 but at 4000 RPM and around 75 goes even faster. I must admit that the 3000RPM declared speed with 0213 rom is much softer than 4000 rpm. In the end my Asus is completely silent for the most of the time, temperature around 44-45. In games usually works in "the first gear" at 4000 RPM and when I play for hours it goes the fastest it can. I am 90% of the time on AC power with battery out. Power4gear is set to Game and Everest Home edition on Overclock details gives 600 MHz on idle, otherwise it gives different speeds every second or so with top at 1600 MHz. It should be normal I think. Interesting is when I exit the game the speed fan goes straight down and in matter of seconds (well maybe 10) it is completely silent again with temperature around 45-47 C. Now I have 0211 and other older bios roms and will try what happens.

    BTW, I played with ClockGen CG-ICS952618 and when I overclock to 1.8GHz temperature on idle goes up to 46 with fan OFF. In games everything works as usual but I think the fan sooner reaches the top speed.

    They say don't fix it if ain't broken, well with this BIOS version I find this true. But on the other hand maybe somebody needs quite quiet fan that is always on? I must admit it keeps idle CPU temp 2-3 degrees lower than before, but I don't need it and I don't like the sound that comes with it. Maybe it is good for extreme overclocking. And if it is not a bug it is a feature. :)


    Ivan

    P.S. Another thing - with 0213 Bios I think the fan changes speeds more smoothly, while with this old bios it is like shifting gears.
     
  2. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Hm, tried 0211 and probe shows 55 C (in comparison to 47 with 0210) when fan goes ON at 3000 rpm. It is very quiet and it turns OFF when temp drops.

    Obviously every BIOS version has its own way of controlling the fan? And it is quite a difference don't you think?

    Ivan
     
  3. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes... it would appear that each M6N handles BIOSes differently and behaves in its own way; quite odd I'd say...

    ASUS M6800Ne, P-M 1.5 Dothan, 512MB Ram, Toshiba Combo drive, Samsung Spinpoint M 40G HDD with 8M cache, Mobility Radeon 9700
     
  4. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    Whatever you do, you don't want to use an M6ne bios in an M6n.. I'm not 100% sure why, considering the only spec that the public sees is the upgrade from ATI 9660 to 9700....... but the bottom line is, those gpu's are identical and aren't the reason for the difference in different bios'.... Something else was changed and I am not certain what. Looking at both motherboards, everything looks identical, but Asus continues to create bios' for both seperately.

    Thanks,
    Justin
    PROPortable
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  5. mazkild

    mazkild Newbie

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    I have a friend that had the same experience with his M6Ne. He just went back to the old bios and everything went back to normal.
     
  6. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    The newest bios actually takes care of that.... you might want to have him try it...... what is it.... 2080 i think?

    Thanks,
    Justin
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  7. manlyputter

    manlyputter Notebook Geek

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by PROPortable

     
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  8. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    Physically they are a different gpu, but not that different....... They can both perform the same when the 9600 is clocked to the level of the 9700. But this is old news anyway..... anyone with a 9600 M6 has a year old system and has probably overclocked it already.

    Thanks,
    Justin
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  9. Underpantman

    Underpantman Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 9600 was made using older tech, I think 13nm, while the die for the 9700 uses a 11nm, thus they are actually very different. That is the 9600 overclocked will consume more energy and produce alot more heat, thus although you can clock it to perform like a 9700 doing so is much more dangerous. It is also bad to tell people that there is no risk in doing this...unless your keen to cover the warranty, as there is a very real risk of screwing up you notebook completely, notebooks arent like desktops, they are not made for overclocking, there just isnt room for adding any extra cooling that maybe required, thus users should no the risks involved IMHO
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    ASUS M6Ne 15.4" WSXGA 1.7 PM ATI9700 80Gb HDD 1Gb RAM
     
  10. Leron

    Leron Newbie

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    Hi all!
    I also have the same problem of Ikovac, with the only difference that the bios upgrade (to version 0208Ae, I own a M6Ne) was done by asus technicians. Now the fan is always on nd it is really annoying me since in more than one year it NEVER started (and the notebook was perfectly working).
    I would like to go back to the previous bios version but I cannot do it through windows. Could please someone explain me how to do it in DOS? i mean how to make the usb bootable and how to flash back the original bios (the 0200AE that is on the drivers cd)..
    Thank you very much for the help!
     
  11. BENDER

    BENDER EX-NBR member :'(

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    run winflash /nodate in windows and it will let you flash an older bios
     
  12. Leron

    Leron Newbie

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    Wow thanks!
    I hope I'll not destoy my laptop... do you think will be a problem a bios downgrade??
     
  13. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    No problem to downgrade bios, it simply changes your notebook to a different state of operation - the pc doesn't know the difference between older and newer bios, it'll just run the way it used to. Just be careful and *do not* turn off your machine or let it go into standby/hibernate while the flash is in progress.
     
  14. Leron

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    I did it.. unfortunately I had to move again to version 0208 since with the old one my processor was able to run at only 600 MHz, no matter what I selected with power4gear or with notebook hardware control software. There were some discussions about this problem somewhere in the forum. But the fan was not running at all. Now i decided to keep the latest bios (0208) and the noise from the fan. Anyway, when downgrading the bios (and also when upgrading it again) i had an error message about the CMOS checksum at the startup. Is it normal??
    thank you all again for the help