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    Might buy this Asus

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by HaloGod2007, May 8, 2008.

  1. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    i have an m15x on order and want to cancel because alienware is BS me about when it will ship. Based off the m15x configuration in my sig, how does it compare if i were to cancel the m15x and buu this?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220306

    also is this laptops GPU upgradeable like the m15x's?
     
  2. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It is not upgradeable AFAIK.

    Also, even though the AW "says" you can upgrade it...most likely there will never be an upgrade developed or it will cost a LOT more to upgrade if they do. Don't count on the ability to upgrade, because that is marketing CRAP.

    Also, you will NOT be able to return to NewEgg if there is a problem with it. I don't buy from NewEgg when there is no return option.
     
  3. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    well besides not being able to return it, what are your thoughts on getting that over the m15x, and suggestions?
     
  4. David

    David NBR Random Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    The Asus M50Sa-AK023C won't perform as well in games as the AW m15x. There is the M50Sv-A1 which comes with the 9500m GS GPU and it's slightly better than the Radeon HD 3650 on the M50Sa-AK023C. So if gaming is your top priority, I'd stick with the m15x.
     
  5. Oldman

    Oldman Notebook Evangelist

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    If you didn't break up with A_ware, may it sensible to show up patience.
    If you made your mind up and m15x is no longer laptop you wish, you can go with M50.
    If you need confirmation of your selection from outsiders, you can find owners opinions (and grievances too) right here - check threads

    I can't believe A_ware will upgrade GPU after you have placed order. Perhaps you can upgrade driver.
     
  6. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    yea the gpu;s in an alienware are upgradeable of course, i will search other threads and see reviews of the asus lappies, thanks
     
  7. Oldman

    Oldman Notebook Evangelist

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    How do you understand this 'upgradeable?
    Do not you think they remove GPU from barebone and insert another one per your specs?
     
  8. HaloGod2007

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    they dont remove anything. You can order another card, like the 8800m gtx and swap it in yourself, or find one on ebay. And when the 9 series cards come out, it should also be compatible
     
  9. line98

    line98 Notebook Consultant

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    heres what they are saying, Notebooks are very different from desktops, even notebooks that are technically upgradeable may not ever have an upgrade come out for them.
    notebook graphics cards have very different form factors, the card pretty much needs to be made specifically for the model they are used in, and considering the alienware uses a chipset that should be replaced this summer, that model may get upgraded to a mobo that doesnt use the same graphics cards. beyond that if they do come up with a new card to upgrade that particular model, its not like desktops where you just pick the one you want and drop it in. the only place to get the card will be the manufacturer, if they are willing to sell it, it will be very expensive (for a 800 level card it will probably be near a 1000 bucks). in order to get one of ebay someone would either have to get one from the manufacturer, or have taken it out of their computer.

    So yes it is "upgradeable" the card is in a slot where it is easily removed, and hardware wise has the potential to be upgraded. but whether or not there will ever be an upgrade for it is questionable.
     
  10. themanwithsauce

    themanwithsauce Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmmmm...the Asus C90 is "upgradeable" and I have yet to see an upgrade. If one existed I could upgrade...for probably 400 dollars. Not really worth it just for the upgradability.
     
  11. HaloGod2007

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    there will be no revsion to the m15x for the montevina platform so they wont change the motherboard this year, its been confirmed. And the m15x uses MXM IV, so it will very very likely be upgradeable to the future 98xxm GTX card coming out this year, so i was asking if the asus was like this also, because i like how they look and i can get it faster. The best 8 series card cost about $575 right now to upgrade
     
  12. devilcm3

    devilcm3 Notebook Deity

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    gee...upgrading notebook video cards are sometimes dangerous as it is way different from desktops' "plug and play" style..
    and lots of things to be removed in order to reach the super duper system core..there is always risk of losing some of smaller parts.

    many companies BS bout the MXM thingy...
    but,many didnt sold their so-called upgradeable graphics card seperately..
    if i am about to buy a notebook..
    i count processors , graphics card ,other thing than RAM and HDD as "unremoveable parts"
    though it is end user removable parts but sometimes the risk to change these parts are just too much to lose it if something wrong happens.
     
  13. themanwithsauce

    themanwithsauce Notebook Evangelist

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    No Asus notebook supports greater than an 8700gt and Asus is not putting MXM technology into any notebooks that I know of besides the C90 series. The C90p is due out soon which will have the 8700gt and possibly the 9 series equivalent of an 8800gts. The m15x is faster than any asus currently available and it shall remain that way until asus supports the 8800gtx

    Also - Upgrading video cards in a laptop is not pure plug and play. If the video card in the m15x was truly mxm type then clevo customers could order an 8800gtx unit through AW and install it in their m570ru but they have to order a special module for the clevo which is also supposedly mxm compatible. And the Asus C90s' 860gt is supposedly mxm II but only works in a C90. It's not as clear cut as you think.

    And one final point which probably has the biggest impact:

    AW promisd an 8800 upgrade kit for m9750 owners. They kept promising up until the release of the m17x where they promptly stated that the m9750 could not handle the 8800gtx. Now get over the upgradeable part already.
     
  14. sleepydeath

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    i hope the c90p will be as cheap as the c90s when I bought it.
     
  15. rhcpcrony

    rhcpcrony NBR President

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    Are you going to be moving around now halogod?

    My opinion is that upgrading laptops is not worth it, you dont know if it will keep the new chips cool enough, price for upgrading is way high compared to desktops, and when you upgrade the gpu you'll probably have to do the cpu also since it will more than likely be a bottleneck.

    That alienware is beast with that 8800gtx, i think it's the first and only 15.4" notebook with such videocard, makes me wonder if it gets crazy hot. Get a G1 or VX2 :)
     
  16. E.B.E.

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    I'm not sure about Alienware and what amount of "upgradeability" is marketing, w.r.t. what is truth;

    For ASUS though, except C90 where there are some different versions of GPU that can be used, there is NO GPU-upgradeable model. There have been many (theoretical) discussions about this, and even when an upgrade seemed at least remotely possible, I have never seen it actually done & confirmed to work.

    As to the C90, as I said, several GPUs are working; but none of them are state of the art mobile GPUs, and ASUS are rather silent on releasing updated versions... so I don't know... I wouldn't bet on it.