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    Modded 197.16 Hybrid Graphics Driver for UL30/50/80VT

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by itaru, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. jordanpatrick

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    I don't have anything enlightening to add to this thread, or the work you guys are doing, but I appreciate it. Thanks for working on updating these drivers!
     
  2. lotsabs

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    Thanks itaru. I too have been quite busy at the office and have not had the time to try anything else except scanning the forums since downgrading back to the orig Asus driver set. Hopefully over the next few days, I will get some time to give it another go. I'll post my results. Thanks again to all involved in this process.
     
  3. Nautis

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    The last working version of the Intel drivers for Hybrid Graphics that don't give the black screen issue is 1994 (which were part of the M11x drivers). I have uploaded them to my server here. You will need to sign the package if you use these.

    Its interesting because the new model Vaio Z includes Intel 2021 and it works fine for them. We have gotten Nvidia 197.16 working on it but all Intel drivers (the 2000 series) seem to give the same black screen issue. If you plug your notebook into VGA everything works fine on that display.

    It almost has to be something to do with the mux because the standard Intel drivers work fine if installed by themselves (disabling Hybrid Graphics of course). So it is something about the Intel drivers in the Hybrid Graphics configuration.

    I have a ton of resources and Information on Hybrid Graphics and modding in general so if you guys need anything just ask. There is a great tool that I know of which shows the settings the files contain. I highly suggest reading the Optimus Whitepaper ( here) because it contains a ton of information on how Hybrid Graphics works.
     
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    Thanks itaru!!!
    Could i share the files nvmvam_inf_v3.zip for Taiwan`s forum??
     
  5. lotsabs

    lotsabs Notebook Guru

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    Thx Nautis. I look forward to reading the white paper. BTW I want to thank you, Itaru, o8x8 and all the others contributing to these projects.
     
  6. itaru

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    Thanks for the link to the 1994 Intel drivers. When I have some time I'll do more experimentation with it.

    No problem, share away. :)

    If someone is willing to host the complete modified 197.16 hybrid driver somewhere, it would be appreciated. That way people won't have to do steps 1-8 to create the modified driver, and can just download the driver and install it on their VT notebook right away.
     
  7. Nautis

    Nautis Switchable Graphics Guy

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    Of course. Modders stick together. Note: I stripped these from the Dell/Alienware M11x Drivers, they are just the intel files. No cat, no inf.

    Ask and you shall receive.

    Unofficial Win 7 64bit [Nvidia: 197.16 | Intel: 1855 ] for Asus_UL3/5/80VT

    - Full Package
    - INF based on Itarus v3 with additional extras by Nautis
    - DriverVer still same as the original for compatibility sake (has anyone tried to adjust this after install?) [ DriverVer = 08/28/2009, 8.15.11.8688 ]
    Note: Due to DriverVer being the same as the original the device manager and some software may identify the drivers as 8.15.11.8688. Check Nvidia Control Panel System Information for correct driver versions.

    Will need testing and confirmation this package works as I don't have an Asus.
     
  8. o8x8

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    Status:
    Itaru's mod inf and 197.16 working fine on win7 x64
    For the missing 1680x1050 resolution on hdmi monitor, seems ok after adding to registry
    NV_Modes
    64 1680x1050x32
    Also I installed monitor's inf, then the native resolution showed up.

    The u30jc 189.64 driver behaved the same with Nautis' inf (ie, demo displayed). with original inf it's not installing even after the device id updated in the inf.
     
  9. Nautis

    Nautis Switchable Graphics Guy

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    Great stuff o8x8. Many of the newer drivers seem to have all the proper files and things for Optimus but in testing none of them seem to work with Optimus on Hybrid Graphics. I will have to let everyone know about 189.64.

    There is a setting "DisableHybridMux" but I am not 100% where it actually goes.
     
  10. Po$er

    Po$er Notebook Guru

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    I can confirm similar results (special thanks to Nautis, o8x8, and of course Itaru) for Optimus on the Ul30vt-a1 as found on the M11x and Ul80vt:

    - Both nvidia and Intel devices are *enabled* in device manager and 3d graphics will render with watermark/overlay

    - Power consumption does seem to fluctuate based on graphic intensity of application (from ~11.2 to 16.1 based on batterycare meter) indicating a switch processing the load from discrete to integrated. However, and this is the caveat I find interesting, even while battery care is displaying minimal consumption (11.2 mW) runtime seems to be significantly truncated.

    - Graphix boost, P4G and other power managment switching functions are not operational

    -Cuda, OpenCL and OpenGL are all supported and tested.

    -PhysX is supposedly supported, however, I can not confirm as I am getting errors with fluidmark (side by side app error).

    I have temporarily rolled back to hybrid pkg 197.16 because of my needs for battery stability... but will try optimus pkg again during the weekend for more data and observation
     
  11. oji-sama

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    Mmm, I just did a complete uninstall of drivers (per instructions on page 1, including cleaning the drivers), and crashed into a problem with the NVIDIA Control Panel. Now as I reboot, I get a complaint that nvcpl.dll is missing.

    I tried to install NVCPLSETUPINT.exe, but it complains that it failed to read the required Display Driver to be used with this package. System information shows that the new drivers are installed.

    Interestingly, it seemed like the new control panel wasn't installed even with previous updates (at least it looked identical to the one that came with the original drivers and didn't get physx option with any version of inf). Also the driver package by Nautis installed considerably more quickly than the one I created earlier. (which doesn't install the Control Panel either, I just tried...)

    Any ideas on how to get the control panel installed? :)


    UPDATE: Managed to get this working by manually specifying the path to the one I created with the ver3 inf. First I tried to manually specify the version Nautis gave, but interestingly this failed with 'file missing' complaint. (There are 110 files in Display folder in Nautis' version and 124 files in the 'hybrid' version)

    UPDATE2: Actually 123 files ( as one of them was my inf-backup)

    The files that exist in the hybrid version, but are not found in the Nautis one are:
    nvcompiler.dll nvcompiler32.dll nvcuvenc64.dll nvencodemft.dll nviewsetup.exe nvinfo.pb nvinit.dll nvinitx.dll nvumdshim.dll nvumdshimx.dll opencl.dll opencl64.dll physx_9.10.0129_SystemSoftware.msi

    UPDATE3: copied files that couldn't be found from NVIDIA's driver package and after that copied also files from the hybrid version. Managed to install, but GPU-Z doesn't show OpenCL enabled. (And the colours in nvidia-mode were initially messed up, as color vibrance was some bizarre reason at +79% after installation)
     
  12. o8x8

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    I tried a clean 64-bit win7 with asus u30jc drivers (2102 and 189.64), just mod inf to recognize ul30vt's g210m. It would work with the watermark/overlay displayed, plus sleep/hibernate ok, minus the cuda, opencl, physx, sound since it's asus driver. Probably one of the dll or sys file knows that certain configuration is not valid optimus setup, so put up this demo string. Also the battery life estimation done by windows is not as good as the nvidia off mode, so it's probably using more power.
     
  13. Nautis

    Nautis Switchable Graphics Guy

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    My god I suck. I will fix this and reupload. Thanks for trying it out. I will triple check the redo before I reupload it.

    I am going to post up a modified inf for 189.64 but I suspect it will be much the same as my previous one.

    I have uploaded an Optimus modified version of 197.16 which I have been told pretty much works the same.

     
  14. o8x8

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    I found 3dmark vantage doesn't work even though 3dmark06 runs. It just showed blank screen with the optimus mode. And I was wrong about the power consumption. With GPU turned off, UL30VT consumes < 6W. Optimus mode is about 10W.
     
  15. oji-sama

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    Nah, it happens. ;) A working single file version of hybrid driver would be great. By the way, please note that in my comparison I counted file.dl_ and file.dll as a match. (and ex_ == exe and so on). So if they aren't a match there are 33 files that aren't matching.
     
  16. Nautis

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    Yeah I upped the new package (*filename the same) looks like I may have forgotten to copy over the 197 files. :eek:

    Will need testing again to confirm the package works.

    Unofficial Win 7 64bit [Nvidia: 197.16 | Intel: 1855 ] for Asus_UL3/5/80VT
    - Full Package
    - INF based on Itarus v3 with additional extras by Nautis
    - DriverVer still same as the original for compatibility sake
    Note: Due to DriverVer being the same as the original the device manager and some software may identify the drivers as 8.15.11.8688. Check Nvidia Control Panel System Information for correct driver versions.
     
  17. King of Rapture

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    Thanks for everyone's hard work!
     
  18. xm1

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    > Will need testing again to confirm the package works.
    >
    > Unofficial Win 7 64bit [Nvidia: 197.16 | Intel: 1855 ] for Asus_UL3/5/80VT
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    tried on my Asus UL50Vt - not working (after restart the graphics card switching stopped working, it was stuck on the IntelVGA one only...)

    reverting back to the 195.62 (the only problem I have with these is the F5/F6 backlight keys not working when booting up on a battery/IntelVGA 1st, if then switch to NvidiaVGA and back to IntelVGA it starts working)
     
  19. Darmach

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    UL50VG - driver up and running..... stock Asus driver 3332 3DMark06 - this one 3509..

    :D

    Everything works - gpu switching, nvidia graphics disabling on powersave mode.... :D

    Power Consumption:
    CPU@1,4GHz

    Energy mode | ASUS | Nautis
    ------------------------------------------
    High Performance | 11050 mW | 10120 mW
    Entertainment | 9500 mW | 8900 mW
    Battery Saving | 8100 mW | 7500 mW
     
  20. belzebutt

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    I tried it on a UL30VT, with PowerGear 1.24 everything seems to work great. HDMI audio also works.

    I did some before and after performance comparison with the stock ASUS 1.86 driver in some games with FRAPS.

    MW2: ~40 fps (all features on except AA), 1 fps drop after upgrade
    TF2: ~40 fps (highest detail, no AA), same after upgrade
    Spore: ~15 fps (highest detail), 16 fps after upgrade

    So basically it's a wash.


    Off topic question: when you overclock the 210M with the nVidia Control Panel, is there a way to get the clock settings to stick? Mine go back to default after reboot, and saving a profile doesn't work. When I select any profile it just shows me whatever clock rates are currently active.
     
  21. Nautis

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    Just wanted to give a heads up to the modders here. Dell/Alienware has posted a new Hybrid Graphics driver for the M11x . It is 197.12 with the Intel side being 1892.

    Are you sure the old drivers were uninstalled properly? I will look at it.
     
  22. xm1

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    OK, 2nd attempt -> success!

    Maybe I did not clear all the stuff properly before. So the UL50Vt works too.

    God bless all the modders :)
     
  23. Nautis

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    No worries. Glad that fixed it for ya. I have made plenty of mistakes recently so I wouldn't be surprised if it was on my end.

    I am currently uploading a 197.45 package to test. Both Intel and Nvidia drivers will need to be signed before they work correctly.

    EDIT: Finished uploading my 197.45 test package. Message me if you would like to test.
     
  24. thanesvorn

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    Excellent. I got through the installation process. I will try and will let you know if there is any errors coming up.

    Thanks for great sharing.
     
  25. lotsabs

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    Just an update. Re-installed the Hybrid Drivers 197.16 on my UL80Vt last weekend using Itaru's method with the v3 inf. Installation went flawlessly and all addl features are available and working (Cuda, Direct Compute, OpenGL, PhysX). So far all is working perfectly. Graphics switching works as it should with both the hardware button or Power4Gear (v1.25). All prior problems have disappeared-drivers seem to work perfectly so far. Will continue to test, but these look very good after a few days of testing. Thanks for all of your hard work!

    How is development coming on the Optimus drivers?
     
  26. belzebutt

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    Has anyone tried installing the latest Intel drivers yet? Or is that guaranteed to break things?
     
  27. itaru

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    Thanks for creating the driver package and hosting it on your website, Nautis! I've updated my guide in the first post to link to your driver package for people who just want to install it directly and not have to create the drivers themselves.

    I use EVGA Precision for graphics card overclocking, and it has an option to apply the overclock settings at startup automatically. You can get it from http://downloads.guru3d.com/EVGA-Precision-1.9.1-download-2454.html

    The latest Intel drivers doesn't want to get along with the Nvidia drivers in hybrid mode for some reason. With the latest Intel drivers, you will just get a black screen when switching to Intel graphics, so no luck yet with updating the Intel drivers to the latest in the hybrid driver package. Of course if you just install the Intel drivers by itself, it will work but that means no Nvidia graphics.
     
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    I noticed a problem and I'm not sure what's causing it. Every time I run 3DMark 06 it switches to the basic Windows 7 UI and then switches to the Intel graphics. Then when it runs a test it tries to switch back to nVidia but usually stops the test giving an error. The last time it worked fine was before I upgraded the drivers to 197.16, but I also tried a few versions of P4GHybrid since... I can never complete a 3DMark test now.
     
  29. itaru

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    Ah yes, the dreaded 3DMark06 stupid auto-power-plan-switch-to-high-performance feature. This same problem happened to me a while back when I was using Power4Gear Hybrid higher than version 1.25, since any version higher than 1.25 messes up the gpu settings in the power plans. What happens is that when you run 3DMark06, it automatically switches power plan from whatever is set in P4GH to the Windows high performance power plan. Problem is that P4GH higher than 1.25 resets the gpu settings to all Intel or all Nvidia for all power plans when you do a reboot. So, when 3DMark06 switched power plan to the Windows high performance one, it also switched the gpu setting to whatever's set there which is the Intel one. You need to go to Advanced settings in P4GH, choose the Windows high performance power plan from the combo box, then set its gpu settings from Intel to Nvidia. Oh, and don't use P4GH higher than 1.25. Problem solved. :)
     
  30. belzebutt

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    But I'm using 1.25 right now...

    Thanks for the tip, I switched to the Maximum Performance plan and it runs now.
     
  31. Darkzeroz4

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    Can you explain to me step by step how this is done? I tried adding the resolution into one of the inf files myself, but got a bluescreen. Thanks!


    NEVERMIND FIGURED IT OUT! THANKS!
     
  32. belzebutt

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    Itaru, have you tried installing the UL30JT drivers on the UL30VT? If the UL50VT has a 210M and supports Optimus, isn't there a chance the UL30VT's 210M can also support it?
     
  33. itaru

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    Unfortunately I don't have a UL30VT to test it. Mine is a UL80VT. AFAIK, the UL50VT doesn't officially support Optimus. None of the VT models officially support Optimus. I believe Nautis is still working on modded unofficial drivers which adds Optimus support to the VT models, and it seems to actually work according to people who have tested it on their VT notebooks but I believe there are still some kinks to work out. I haven't done any testing personally since I'm currently busy and need my UL80VT fully functioning for work at the moment, and the above information is all from previous postings in this thread. When I have free time from work I'll go back to doing some more testing.
     
  34. ridzyroo

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    Thanks itaru for figuring a workaround for this and to nautis who compiled it into one .exe file. I just uninstalled my drivers, installed the nautis .exe file, enabled physX and tadaa. my drivers are updated!

    edit: also, what are your stable overclock settings? so far I haven't been able to find an absolute stable one while running BOINC. it'll just crash. hmmm
     
  35. golddk

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    I wish to test your newest driver 197.45, Where can I find them ?
     
  36. belzebutt

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    I'm on 197.16 and I use the following settings without any problem whatsoever while playing MW2 and TF2:
    Core clock: 750
    Memory clock: 935
    Shader clock: 1655 (that one I also tried on "linked" without any issues).

    I've also had the memory clock somewhat higher without issues but this is the setting I know to be rock solid so far. It gives maybe a 10% framerate boost.
     
  37. ridzyroo

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    haha. I know where you got those settings from. I used those settings with the older firmware and it kept crashing. I'll try it out using the current firmware then. =)
     
  38. bobotiger

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    Why not download attachments
     
  39. oji-sama

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    By the way, has anyone done any testing with Media Player Classic (MPC) on these laptop drivers, as I've understood that Nvidia introduced some problems that cause choppy playback (with especially/only MPC?)... dot 45 drivers apparently have some fixes, but I've read that it's still buggy...
     
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    media player classic? who uses them anymore?! just use vlc man
     
  41. oji-sama

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    I do. And probably a lot of others too. The interface is nicer, plus I get to choose the codecs (for example CoreAVC) and filters. I do have VLC as well though. I believe the quality of VLC output has been improving, so it's not a bad choise (anymore).

    (And to be precise, I'm using Media Player Classic Home Cinema, not to be mixed up with Windows Media Player)
     
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    I would like to know if anyone has as well...

    Also, has anyone (Itaru, Nautis...) made any progress on the 194.45 drivers? Or updating the Intel drivers to a newer version since the last posts?

    I will be receiving my notebook soon...would love to have up to date drivers...and absolutely willing to assist with testing, whatever, to make it happen. :)
     
  44. ridzyroo

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    The most up to date driver for the Nvidia G210M is the 197.16 as listed on the nvidia website
     
  45. WarnerYoung

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    Okay, I've read through most of this thread, but either I'm too tired, or there's too much info here now. What I'd like to find out is, is there a (fairly easy) way to upgrade the Intel drivers on my UL30VT? Upgrading the Nvidia drivers would be nice, too, but at the moment, I'm not running any games that really stress the G210M. I'm more interested in enabling Flash acceleration on the Intel side, so that I can get better Flash performance during normal, power-saving web surfing.

    I'm sorry if this has been answered already, but like I said, I'm having some trouble wading through the entire thread to find the correct info.
     
  46. jordanpatrick

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    Sadly, unless I am mistaken, no one has been able to install a newer working version of the Intel drivers.

    That said, you should be able to enable Flash hardware acceleration on the Intel card as is by downloading the newest (10.1) version of the Flash software.

    (EDIT: Here is the link to the Adobe Labs page with the RC of Flash 10.1

    Adobe Labs - Downloads: Flash Player 10 Prereleases

    Keep in mind that this is a beta, not a full release version, and as
    such it is likely to have bugs or other problems.)
     
  47. WarnerYoung

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    jordanpatrick, I checked the versions of Intel driver that supposedly have Flash HW acceleration, and it doesn't look like what's in the UL30VT will work. I did, in fact, install Flash 10.1 beta, and it doesn't seem to be any better than before. I'll double-check tonight when I'm home, to be sure. Could be a case of too tired or just plain user idiocy :)
     
  48. jordanpatrick

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    Ah, I see...it could very well be my mistake then. I didn't actually check to see that the Intel drivers support the hardware acceleration for Flash, I just assumed the compatibility for it would be all on Adobe's end.
     
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    can anyone try l4d with the modified driver? apparently there is something like a 30% increase which would be significant for me.
     
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    I tried and it plays fine. (but no comparison available - I did not tried that on an earlier driver...)


    To others - have someone already tried the new Nvidia WHQL 257.21 for notebooks?
     
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