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    My G50VT-X5 is getting hot

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by DarkxBlazer, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. DarkxBlazer

    DarkxBlazer Notebook Guru

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    A couple days ago I opened ma g50 to clean it and i unscrewed the copper part. I kinda notice that there was a paste type thing when I was lifting it up. After I put it back together the GPU temp started to rise more than usual. When I play cod4 it only max at 89 but now its going up to 100. I am thinking that it is because of the paste which I am assuming is thermal paste.

    Now I am asking how do I go about applying thermal paste in the G50VT-X5?
    Is it the paste is wearing out that is causing the GPU to increase in temp?
    Where do I apply the paste?
    and what thermal paste should I use if it is the thermal paste?

    If you could include pics that would be great

    Thanks XD. Please help me
     
  2. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    It's very likely that you dislodged the gpu's Thermal Pad when you did your removal trick. This broke the heat transfer properties, and thus caused your temperature control problem.

    You're going to have to remove the heatsink and clean it, since the thermal pad can't be reapplied, and then put new thermal paste/gel on. Unfortunately, this is going to void your warranty, but the alternative is a runaway heat transfer problem that is going to cook your gpu.

    If you've never done that procedure before, it may be wiser to seek out a notebook repair shop in your area and have them do it, because if done incorrectly you won't fix the problem.
     
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    SeanDude05 Notebook Consultant

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  4. DarkxBlazer

    DarkxBlazer Notebook Guru

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    I understand what u mean and I think I just made it worst. =/ I opened it again and I followed a disassembly guide to take out the fan part of the laptop so I could clean it, but I think I messed up the thermal part for the CPU. The temps are now sky rocketing everytime I boot it up. When It reaches the desktop it gives blue screen and shuts off. I managed to check the temps before it shuts off and the CPU goes up to 100 degrees now >.<..... I really messed things up. I am wondering if I could send it back to asus/bestbuy to replace/fix it because I am unable to use the laptop now

    btw i was following this http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=318551

    and I did the CPU module
     
  5. DarkxBlazer

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    btw I rather not try to reapply the thermal compound because if I mess things up it will void my warranty and I will end up with nothing =/. Do you think it is possible to send it back now since I havnt really done anything to it?
     
  6. ClearSkies

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    Well yes, you did :(. Nothing left to do but send it for repair, since you're now hitting the thermal safety shutdown.

    As GSquad has a lousy reputation around these parts, I would suggest just calling Asus North America for RMA.

    I would also expect that you will have to pay for the repairs (which should be fairly inexpensive as they're just replacing the thermals), since the techs are quite likely to figure out what you have accomplished -- in fact, better to just own up to your mistake when you call rather than try to sneak it past them. This isn't going to garner you a replacement, and you shouldn't expect such since it was your own fault :).

    Voiding the warranty just means that Asus won't fix these problems for you at no charge. If you put AS5 etc on but it doesn't work and then you send it to Asus, or just send it right now for repairs you likely will have to pay Asus for their work. Depending on your comfort level, you could always try to DIY first since either way Asus is probably going to charge you for it.
     
  7. DarkxBlazer

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    thanks for your reply. I have been trying to contact asus but it keeps giving me busy tone. I also tried online support and nothing, so I had to send them a email about my problem. Darn I knew I shouldn't have troubled laptop >.<...

    I guess the only thing I can do now is wait =/
     
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    Oh and by taking the copper off and unscrewing it to clean the fan, did i break the warranty?
     
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    goggles Notebook Geek

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    well ya i saw that sticker but i didnt remove it i didnt exactly take it off completely . I just put it back so its like it was always there
     
  12. ChinNoobonic

    ChinNoobonic Notebook Evangelist

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    just buy new thermal paste and reapply it. as long as you didnt touch the thermal pads you are ok. apply the paste to the the cpu core and gpu core. they are the shiny parts in the center of the chips. make sure you clean them off thoroughly before you apply the new paste. also, use only a pea sized amount and spread it with a credit card or some sort. it should be almost transparent when done. after just reseat your heatsink and tighten the screws in the order you see on the holes.
     
  13. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    If the G50's heatsink is like the one on the G51's GPU, a transparent amount might by too thin. Speaking from experience here. I'm probably going to slap some copper in to fill in the cap.
     
  14. Soviet Sunrise

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    The strange thing about MX-3 is that it performs better with more paste applied. I'm sure there is an upper limit, but from my experience, it is giving me lower temps with a thicker layer.
     
  15. DarkxBlazer

    DarkxBlazer Notebook Guru

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    ya thx chin. btw dude which one do u think i should buy?

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=artic+silver+5&x=0&y=0
     
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    Hmm. So you think it's better to just leave my thicker paste on the GPU--and the thermal pad on the northbridge--than to try inserting a copper plate on them both?
     
  17. Soviet Sunrise

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    If your GPU heatplate isn't making contact with the GPU die, then you should use a very thin copper shim of ~1mm or less, then sandwich it with thermal paste.

    The northbridge doesn't need a copper shim, but it never hurts to slip one in.
     
  18. ChinNoobonic

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    Okay. When I first replaced my stock paste with AS5, I did the paper-thin method that I had done on my CPU. After noticing I was idling at 85, I took a look at the paste imprint and saw that only the two corners of the thin layer were actually touching.
     
  20. ChinNoobonic

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    @DarkxBlazer

    if you can, get Arctic Cool MX-3 with the arcti clean 1 & 2.

    let me know how it goes when you reapply the paste.
     
  21. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Me? I'm using MX-3 right now. I was just saying about my first time doing the GPU.
     
  22. ChinNoobonic

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    No not you Forge. I know you are using MX-3. I was talking to DarkxBlazer.
     
  23. DarkxBlazer

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    ok I will. But I dunno where to get the MX-3. I dont see it on amazon
     
  24. Soviet Sunrise

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    eBay or Petra's Tech Shop.
     
  25. DarkxBlazer

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    k kewl thanks

    oh btw ma temps went back to normal for some reason . Its not blazing hot anymore its prob just 2-3 degrees hotter than usual, but everything seems fine again. I just played Cod4 on max settings for a good hr or so and the cpu didnt go past 80 and the GPU was around 95 max
     
  26. ChinNoobonic

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    those temps are still pretty high though.
     
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    Especially for a 9800m. Do you get those kind of temperatures in any other game or test?
     
  28. lidowxx

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    There is definitely something wrong with your CPU, my UVed P8400 in G50VT-X1 normally don't even go over 45C while gaming, even with it being massively OCed to 2.75Ghz (note i don't UV the CPU while OCing), it hovers around 55-56 C under heavy stress in CPU intensive programs. 95C for your 9800M gs is a bit high, however it is not something totally unacceptable if your ambient temp is high and OC the card quite a bit.
     
  29. DarkxBlazer

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    alright I guess I need to apply the thermal paste thing then