To start off, let me say that I had very, very high expectations for this notebook. When I got it all set up, it exceeded my expectations. I will be using it for MBA school this fall, so mostly Office will be used, and of course, watching DVDs, so the graphics card was not necessary.
I feel that the reviews of the W3V and W3A apply to this as well so, I will just fill you in on some things that were a surprise to me.
Case: The case is better looking than in the pictures. I was not too excited about the white section on the top lid in the pictures, but in person it fits in perfectly. Surprisingly, on that white section on the left side, it is printed (in gray) W3 14 Widescreen. I understand this will only be on the first batch. It almost seems that they just imported the W3A case (minus the Asus case imprint). Also, the Built on Asus tag is on the right side of that white section. It is all very aesthetically balanced.
Heating vents: I know there have been complaints of the W3V with regards to cooling. I hoped that the Z63A would avoid this by not having a dedicated GPU. When reading the manual, the illustrations showed slots on the HD cover and CPU cover for ventilation. Mine did not have this. However, there were small slots on the front angled section of the undercarriage inline with the HD compartment. I dont know if the W3V has this. Hot air was coming out of the side vents, so the cool air was obviously getting in. I felt no unexpected warmth (and it never exceeded warm while doing any of my set-up and installations) on the palm rests. However, the bottom cover of the HD was hot, but no hotter that the multiple demo units I felt at BestBuy. I believe the stream of cool air is being directed over the HD, thus, hotter on the bottom than the top. This might actually be an improvement over the illustrated HD and CPU slots. So, to make a long story short, I don't see heating problems with this whatsoever.
Screen: Pretty much the same as described in the W3 reviews, but I just needed to add that I love it. My wife and I watched a DVD in bed last night and she kept saying wow, the picture is really good! She is used to her IBM from work.
Extras: It came with the expected case, and unexpected Logitech wireless optical mouse. I already purchased an MS mouse, so I guess Ill have 2. The case is better than any free case Ive received. It is fabric, with Asus logod clasps. It fits the Z63A perfectly, not any bigger or smaller than it should be.
As for any bads, I havent seen any yet. Like I said earlier, this was better than expected. I know that no notebook is perfect, and I was aware of most issues from the beginning, so I never considered any of those things as good or bad. There were no surprises, except for good surprises, so I am a happy camper.
If any of you have any specific Qs about the Z63A, just ask and Ill do my best to answer.
BTW: it was $1444 from ISTNC, they were great!
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Thanks for the review.
Is it possible for normal user to upgrade memory? Most of the laptop I've seen has a 'port' in the bottom ... so upgrading memory is pretty easy ... Since I've never seen any Asus, I'm just not sure how upgrading mem is gonna work ...
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There is a port on the bottom for the RAM, but I dont know if it is for both slots or for just one. Some have an access for one on the bottom and one under the keyboard.
I would open up the port to tell you, but there is a sticker covering the port stating that if I remove or rip the sticker I void the warrant. Sorry.
Ill check out the users manual when I get home and let you know if it says how to add memory if somebody hasnt answered you by then.
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Yes, it has a color shine screen.
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Does this notebook have a glossy screen?
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And might I add, it is beautiful!
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... you can add that.
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gregM, can u post some pics of this notebook? i wish someone had pics of a w3v and a z63 side by side.
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I don't know why you want to see side by side pics.... they're the same notebook, except for the color. The professional pictures of the z63a on our site would give you the best idea of how colors were used..... something I know doesn't show up well without the proper lighting.
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Yeah... you don't even have to search... here are some pictures:
http://www.proportable.com/detail.aspx?ID=124
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It's is the W3a........ that's the the Z63a is....
It doesn't have an aluminum lid, if the site said it, it was just an error..... the A model always had just a carbon fiber lid.
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I have a question, how is the notebook for casual gaming?
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The integrated i915 graphics really aren't bad. They can't certainly handle great dvd palyback and some casual gaming...... HL-2 might be pushing it, but you can play it... you'll be turning your settings down, but it can be done.
The W3 would be better.... but it depends on what you've got to spend and how you want the thing set up.
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Pro: thanks for the reply
So DVD playback isn't that great on the integrated card?
It seems that I'll try to save up for the w3 then. The cheapest one I found here in Canada will set me back around $2700 (including tax). But maybe by the time I've saved up for it, the price would've gone down. (prays)
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I think he meant to say it easily handles DVD playback. At least, mine certainly does.
BTW - Anybody know where I can get the cool W3 wallpaper?
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I'd pass on an integrated solution for that stuff.... all of the x600 models can handle them quite nicely though.... Z70v/W3v/V6v ... Obviously the Z71v would be the best graphics wise to run those the best..... but you've really got to compromise between that and what else you want the laptop for.
Some people might be able to run those on the latest i915 graphics... but I think it's going to depend on what level of play you really want. If this is something you'll do rarely, I don't think you'd mind.. if you want to do it all the time, you're going to want something dedicated.
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have you guys tried playing counterstrike or starcraft broodwar on the z63? do u guys think it can handle those games...?
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hey greg, on ISTNC's site, it gives you the option for "Thermal Solution" and the options are intel or artic silver, what is that?
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It's the thermal grease that is between the CPU and heat sink. The more it conducts heat, the cooler the CPU will be - which equates to faster. ISTNC claimed that they didn't notice a significant difference between the stock Intel-supplied grease from the Artic Silver. However, Artic Silver is loved by many, and it is only $5 more, so I went with it.
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Just to give you guys a heads up..... AS is loved by many overclockers with the P4's and a64's..... but on a pentium-M.. It doesn't do jack.
Here's the reason. At it's hottest, this cpu never gets outside of it's optimal operating temps. This means regardless of thermal material, you're not going to help performance or life of the system.
If you were overclocking -- which centrino is basically the anti-overclocker, so that'd be dumb... AS can help you shed another 1-2 degrees from cpu.... As stock, you're not going to see anything. Now some people charge $50 for this, others charge $5...... a tube of AS costs $5 and you can get about 20 cpus out of it. We offer it for free to those who really want it, but it does nothing.
Here is where it helps.. if you remove your cpu often, AS can be reused, where a thermal pad must be replaced. CPU's rarely go bad, so there isn't much need to remove them. Since removing heatsink from a cpu usually would void anyone's warranty, it's not really an issue. After the first time the heatsink is removed, you can't just reuse a thermal pad, you'll need to put something else on there. The real kicker is, if you pay $50 or even $5 for AS, there is usually no way to prove you got it since removing the heatsink would usually void the warranty.... So, since you can't notice the difference and can't physically see it.... what are you going to do? Your options are to crack it open and prove it's not there and get your $5 or $50 back ... meanwhile they don't have to talk to you again because you made it clear you voided the warranty. OR, wait 1,2,3 years till the warranty is up and then go to swap your cpu and find out it's not there. All you can do then is complain about something that is now out of warranty... if they are even still in business.
It's sort of a quandary we find ourselves in when it doesn't do a darn thing in this case, but if it were free everyone would want it... but if you charge, people will want to know it's there... it just goes around and around.....
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Yeah, that was my gut feeling. Rick used to add the AS for free as well, and just recently started charging $5. I bet it was to discourage people from getting it. I understand it is more time consuming to add it (if you do it right).
$5 is less than 10 minutes at work, so Im not too bummed. Do I believe he really put it in? Yes. I dont believe he would have switched from doing it for free to charging $5 and not put it in. Integrity is still alive. (I hope)
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I'm not trying to call a $5 bluff, but some people charge $50... look around.. that's all I'm saying.
Honestly, it's a breeze unless it's your first time doing it. A thin even coat with a razor blade is all you need.... It's sort of like making a PB&J sandwidtch... I'm sure people get pretty good. The less you put on the better, and if you put to much on you're wasting it and potentially harming the cpu in both thermal conductivity and electrical if you get it on all over the cpu...
All I'm saying is that it's almost the wannabes that want AS on a centrino becasue they heard it was good.. Where as the people who use AS and know what it does... and would want to use it in certain applications, know it's no good here..... Sort of like.. it certainly shouldn't be a selling point, because anyone pushing it either doesn't know exactly what it does or doesn't do (which is bad) or is trying to tell you it's better and it will help (which is bad too) .....
That's all.
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No no.. I know....... there is a difference and I didn't want to put your name into that group either... There are wannabees.... those are the ones who are paying $50 for it at some places....
Will it make a $5 difference.... no, certainly not. But, what's $5 when your computer is 2 grand? Nothing. So it should be written up as almost the difference between seagate and hitachi drives..... hitachi's cost a couple bucks more, but seagate's have a longer warranty.... is either really going to change your life? No agian... but getting what you prefer and what you believe makes a difference is what you should get I guess..... I guess it's just sort of dumb... I just don't like it when people who then don't know anything call up and tell me they need AS and are just clueless...
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Hey Greg, can you post temperature and batterly life readings, please? I'm interested to see how much of a difference the integrated graphics actually make.
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A thousand of a degree may be possible. i did this test long ago on a m6n. Result? Nothing! Is it worth 50$ 10$ or 5$ ? Only if it makes you feel like its worth it! Stick to the original intel thermal solution. Its not the greatest. It certainly gave them a bad name with their sock 478 cpu. You know the problem when you pull of the heatsink cold it pulls out the cpu with the roots without releasing the tension lever. Its a little different with laptops.
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Not here to make anyone paranoyd. Amd will not honor retail cpu's with arctic silver on them especially if you missing the original fan. I ran into this issue a few times. I was only able to get over it becuase i am a dealer and i had to persuade their manager not to void the warranty becuase i would stop selling them. I am almost positive intel has the same clause about excess arctic silver on their retail chip. If you use arctic silver there almost always excess left over on the sides which can smeer all over the chip if you try to clean it off. We dont sell arctic silver becuase as Justin said it does nothing for the heat with pentium M and becuase it may void the warranty. I ve had customers who requested it and we never charge but i do always warn them of the risk. Go with the stock intel solution that comes with the heatsink.
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hey GregM, have u found any bads with the z63 yet?
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Yes, after playing with it for a while I have. The speakers are not very loud. I expected this from W3 reviews, but man, they really arent loud! Even with headphones on, if it is turned up all the way it is still just kind-of loud. There might be a fix for this, but I havent found it yet. I bought some external USB powered speakers, so that might be somewhat of a solution. However, if it is a warranty issue, I don't think I would get it fixed - it's not that big of a deal for me. For some, it might be.
Also, does anybody know how to get the scroll function of the touch pad to work on Firefox? It works fine on IE, but not on the other. Im sure this is a non-Asus prob.
Other than that, it is one screaming-cool notebook.
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The scroll problem is Firefox related -- search for "Synaptics" and "Firefox".
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ooo thanks a lot greg, u've really helped a lot!
jus wondering, can the optical drive be removed for a 2nd battery? if so, how many hours can u get outta it?
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I believe so. According to the thread:
http://www.notebookreview.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15782
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Extra 6 and optional 9 cell batteries for the W5a have come in.
Optional 2nd batteries for the optical bay for the Z63a also came in.
From that, I would have to say yes. Kind of cool - that would be a great option.
I don't know how many hours that would add on. I bet ProPortable.com would have that listed, but at this time, their site is down.
Hope that helps.
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we'll never list life for these batteries... the best way to figure it out though is to figure out what you're getting on the 8 cell that comes with your system...
Say you get 4 hours on an 8 cell...... that's 30 minutes for each cell.... so you'd get 3 hours on the 6 cell for the optical bay....
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Hey, that's math - that's not fair.
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I know ... trust me...... I give someone the simple formulas and they still email me and ask me to figure it out..
What's worse is they want me to guarentee them how much time they'll get...... that's not my game.
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Was wondering,
does the z63a support dual channel memory?
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Yes, but I believe it doesn't give any measurable increase in performance. Still cool, though - and if you ever sell your notebook it would be a selling point that you are running dual channel.
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If buying the notebook, I wouldn't suggest getting 2 x 512 instead of 1 x 1gb just to get it to run in dual channel mode...... with 1gb, you're going to get plenty of performance and down the road when you want to upgrade, you just add another 1gb stick and you'll have 2gb and those will be running in dual channel mode...... just some extra benefit you'll see later, but it's not something that's going to knock you back in your seat.
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You can easily be under $1500 for this notebook. If you aren't gaming, and know you won't in the future, the Z63A would more than do it for you. If you have any suspicions that you might game, the W3V would be the way to go. The machines are fairly identical, minus the dedicated GPU, bluetooth, and aluminum lid. The Z63A is all carbon fiber, so it will outlast any Dell, HP, etc. As for tech support, you would contact your dealer (for Z63A), which could be good or bad. You can read reviews on different dealer if you do a search here or notbookforums.com. The most popular seem to be ISTNC, ProPortable, RJTech, Startech, Geared2Play, and AGearNotebooks.
I was in the same boat as you - Mine will be used for grad school for the next 2 years.
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I'm not sure if this is the right forum for asking this, but here goes anyway. Aside from the graphics card, what is the difference between the z63a and the w3? I am looking for a good quality laptop that will last four years for school. I just stumbled across ASUS when reading the review for the w3v. I understand the components are top quality, but I also need good tech support as I am not so computer savvy. I'm not a gamer; I'll be using my computer to run office apps, download music, and watch dvds. I need portability for school and decent battery life. If the z63a is durable enough to be taken to class regularly, I'm thinking it might be a good choice for me, provided I can get decent tech support. Any advice on this computer or something comparable that would fit my needs? My price range is around 1500, up to 1700 max.
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I'm falling for the Z63a since I can't afford the W3. My budget is around 1500$.
I believe the intergrated graphic card of Z63a is quite enough for basic gaming. If you play games like : Counter strike, half life, age of empire, of even Total War: Rome, or online games like MU, Gundbound ... you won't have any problem. My brother has a desktop w/ 256 Mb + intergrated graphic card and he has no problem playing those games. So with the system of Z63a which has Pen M, 533MHZ buss which has higher bandwidth for ram (4200), I don't see anyproblem w/ playing those types of games ....
I have a question. Do you know what the difference in quality b/w diffrend brands of ram ? for ex: samsung, corsair??, kingston, infenon ... Most of them provide life time warranty, but the prices are very different. So anyone know what makes them different in pices ? Will heat be one of the reason ?
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Z63a - for your needs, I can't see it not being enough for you.
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My Z63A has arrived!!! It is beautiful!!!
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