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    NHC for Core Duo notebooks?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by tay, Apr 6, 2006.

  1. tay

    tay Notebook Consultant

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    Well, when I gave NHC a whirl i repeatedly crashed. soo guess not?
     
  2. TheRunaway

    TheRunaway Notebook Consultant

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    Which version of NHC were you using? Supposedly the newest beta is compatible, but I don't have any first-hand experience.
     
  3. CoolHotCold

    CoolHotCold Notebook Evangelist

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    heh. I could of told you that Tay. Made my Acer 8204 crash. It works as soon as you install it but when you reboot it just crashes
     
  4. Tim

    Tim Notebook Virtuoso

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    Interesting. I wonder if other users are expiriencing this. I don't have a duo so I can't verify this. It would be something to look into.
    Tim
     
  5. TheRunaway

    TheRunaway Notebook Consultant

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    Beta 03:
    @CoolHotCold - did you use beta that's available now?
    http://www.pbus-167.com/chc.htm
     
  6. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I setup the last beta but Dynamic Switching doesn't work. In fact, nothing works, the multiplier is kept to the minimum all the time regardless of the setting, hence NHC is useless at this point for Centrino Duo.

    Later edit: RMClock however works like a dream.
     
  7. threeFiftyLi

    threeFiftyLi Notebook Consultant

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    With RMClock only limited to going down to .950V (assuming that default) wouldn't that make it the same as just leaving the processor to Speedstep itself?
     
  8. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    crashes on the v6j and z62f as well. It should not be used. I am guessing the maker will eventually make a revision.
     
  9. BENDER

    BENDER EX-NBR member :'(

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    Eddie, beta 3 works ok on my V6J. Guess its a hit & miss ><;
     
  10. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    I am using RMclock on my new Core Duo Samsung X60. The voltage at minimum CPU speed is fixed at 0.95V, so no extension to battery life under light use (I suspect Intel wants us to buy the LV CPUs if we want more running time). However, I have dropped the voltage at maximum CPU speed from 1.263V to 1.05V, which significantly drops the power used and heat generated under heavy load.

    John
     
  11. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    NHC is also limited to .950, unless there are some options that I couldn't find.

    Later Edit: My experience as it stands now :)

    Saturday 8 April 2006

    Notebook type: V6J-8002P

    NHC 1.10beta3:
    Does not work. Multiplier freezes at 6x and is never changed by the software regardless of the setting.

    RMClock 2.05:
    Works fine. Decreased 11x VID from 1.263V to 1.112V.
    6x VID cannot be decreased below 0.950V.

    MobileMeter 0.310:
    CPU Temp, HD Temp, Batt readings work fine
    CPU Speed does not detect underclocked CPU.

    SpeedFan 4.28:
    Does not detect fans (even with Everest installed).
    Not a lacking BIOS feature, as Asus NBProbe detects fan speed fine.
     
  12. MysticGolem

    MysticGolem Asus MVP + NBR Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    hmmm interesting, is there a way to unlock or hack rmclock or the bios, in order to undervolt the cpu at the lowest volatage?

    I have read a little about undervolting Yonah's at lowest speed, and they all said the same thing, It is locked and you can't undervolt it, except for higher cpu speed.

    How about 1000mhz? can you undervolt there?, or any cpu speeds in between, hopefully you can, and its voltage can go lower than .950 and it will increase your batterylife while increase your CPU speed to 1000mhz or somthing.

    Or is this not possible?

    Thanks,

    MysticGolem
     
  13. tay

    tay Notebook Consultant

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    So for Core Duo - is RMclock looking superior? What is the benefit of undervolting at max CPU usage? Besides saving battery life (i guess) if you are running it on full steam while on battery?


    So in layman terms - what is this about Yonah being locked to .95v? Does it mean that no extra battery life will be gleaned from any different programs?
     
  14. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I don't think I'm going to mess with my notebook at that level.

    At 7x - 11x multiplier, you can undervolt down to .950V. Of course it doesn't make sense for the voltage to go lower than the minimum voltage.
    6x multiplier is already 1GHz.

    Not just max, but between min and max as well. I only mentioned max because RMClock recomputes the voltages in between on its own (on the setting that I use it).
    The advantage is that your CPU will generate less heat when running at higher speeds, thus hopefully resulting in a longer life and lower fan speeds and fan noise. On battery, I myself will run it at lowest speed unless I need processing power really bad :)

    And w.r.t Power4Gear, the advantage is of course that you really know what's going on and are able to control it. In Power4Gear, the CPU speed dropdown is available only on the Battery Saving setting, if I remember correctly.
     
  15. tay

    tay Notebook Consultant

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    Question about RMclock - how do you know which Profile is currently running? Just red for plugged in and green for battery? Because even when I set the profile for Max Performance and Max Battery, it doesn't seem to SAY which profile is in use at the time.
     
  16. John Ratsey

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    RMClock has its own management profiles and the one in use is revealed when you point to the RMClock icon in the system tray. You need to tick the box to override the current Windows power scheme in the RMClock profile properties window. As a side note, I don't recommend touching the advanced CPU settings. I did, and my computer would not shut down properly.

    John
     
  17. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    You see the RMClock icon in the tray? It looks like a washer/gear.

    Orange = Performance on Demand (Dynamic Switching)
    Gray = No profile selected
    Green = Max Battery
    Red = Max Performance