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    New Asus Fall 09 Notebooks

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by nicksti, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. brutus37

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    Guy with little computer knowledge here.

    Would the UL80v with 1.3 to 1.4 Ghz CULV and 4 gigs of ram be fast enough for standard computer usage? I would pretty much be using it for school (MS office), web surfing, and media (DVDs and music), not gaming. I was all set to get the U80V until that got pulled which had an Intel T6500 Processor 2.1GHz and 4 GB of DDR2-800 RAM.

    And how necessary is it to get integrated graphics vs dedicated? Any difference in DVD viewing, or streaming video?

    I just have no idea how much speed someone like me actually needs, but if this fits the bill the UL80v looks top notch.
     
    brutus37, Sep 9, 2009
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    kuri Notebook Consultant

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  3. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    For word processing, power pointing, and movie watching, that processor should be fine. It's not going to win any kind of speed award, but you're not going to be waiting hours for MS Word to open up. Jut make sure to keep your processes as trim as possible.

    Not overly important, since IGPs can handle simple DVDs just fine. You'll notice more crispness with a dedicated card, though.

    As for streaming, that's really more dependent on the CPU than it is the GPU. Uh, I don't know how an ultra light handles youtube, but I would say, just like with ordinary tasks, it won't be the fastest but it won't be cripplingly slow either.

    Personally, I would just go with a small notebook, not a netbook, but it should be fine for your tasks.
     
    SoundOf1HandClapping, Sep 9, 2009
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  4. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    It has 33% overclock in it's power profile, that makes it 1.862Ghz when u need it.
     
    Logarith, Sep 9, 2009
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  5. MarcTonk

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    Can any of these do some light gaming?
     
    MarcTonk, Sep 10, 2009
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  6. mifa101

    mifa101 Notebook Guru

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    Can s/one tell me where to buy the 1.4ghz version of the UL30?
     
    mifa101, Sep 10, 2009
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  7. mifa101

    mifa101 Notebook Guru

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    Really? even the UL30- 1.3ghz? that is the dream!
     
    mifa101, Sep 10, 2009
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  8. mifa101

    mifa101 Notebook Guru

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    I mean 33% on overclock is just sweet!
     
    mifa101, Sep 10, 2009
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  9. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    People need to keep in mind that doing that will, when used, defeat some of the purpose of the CULV cpu in achieving low heat generation and longer battery life from a small battery; using the OC profile will do just the opposite in both.

    Starting the countdown until someone comes back and posts complaining about these effects -- it always happens :).
     
    ClearSkies, Sep 10, 2009
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  10. embrion

    embrion Notebook Consultant

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    Where did You get this 33% in case of UL30 and also SU7300 information? That would be really sweet in case You need more processing power.
     
    embrion, Sep 10, 2009
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  11. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    Logarith, Sep 10, 2009
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  12. embrion

    embrion Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I hope it's not error. I've already spotted one. "GraphiX Boost" key photo is just ExpressGate button and google say nothing about this "GraphiX Boost"
     
    embrion, Sep 10, 2009
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  13. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    Dude what are u smoking? you're looking at the UL80v, it not out yet.
     
    Logarith, Sep 10, 2009
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  14. d motorman

    d motorman Notebook Evangelist

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    future proofing, and I do a lot of photoshop work and things of that nature.
     
    d motorman, Sep 10, 2009
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  15. embrion

    embrion Notebook Consultant

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    Probably You're smoking too much.
    I'm poiting probable errors in those docs as there were many before.

    About "GraphiX Boost" - manufacturers always scream about all new features so this one should also be mentioned ANYWHERE in press releases.
    About button at not being yet released UL80V - ExpressGate button is always located on the same side, see UL30 which IS released: http://attachpic.sogi.com.tw/upload/200908/20090812144123531.jpg
    I'm sure that in case of same family UL80 they just placed this button under the laptop and used existing one on the left side as mystic GraphiX Boost ;]

    Oh, and how much I smoke is not your business.
     
    embrion, Sep 11, 2009
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  16. mifa101

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  17. Logarith

    Logarith Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm aware of that picture, but my point was your excitement made u miss what was said totally and also linked. Re-quoting the obvious:

    That was your reply to a UL80v discussion. ;)


    Then came this:

    And ofcourse there'd be errors or picture substitutes in a magazine, like the UL30 had a full keypad in its pic. You gonna be anal about that too? :rolleyes:

    I'd just ignore all picture booboos and focus on the specs. And as far as what asus chooses as their name for nvidia hybridpower I don't really care..
    Now toss a bro some pot, I needa chill too :cool:
     
    Logarith, Sep 12, 2009
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  18. mifa101

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    Where did you see the UL30-A2 for sale? This is the one I cannot find anywhere. it has a core 2 duo su9400 at 1.4GHZ....3.5LB -The dream..

    Where did u see it for sale?
     
    mifa101, Sep 12, 2009
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  19. juko

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    I don't really get the SU7300 thing with 1.3GHz (newbie). Would it be any use in archiCad renderings etc? i need a laptop mainly for my studies, so i'll need photoshop, autocad, archicad, word plus mail and internet. no gaming.

    edit :eek:h yeah,i was thinkin about the UL50VG

    other option is Sony VAIO VGN-NS21Z/S wit P8600 adn ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430.

    what do you think?
     
    juko, Sep 16, 2009
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  20. embrion

    embrion Notebook Consultant

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    Guess what. "T" (Turbo) versions do really exist and are coming to my country.
    Click
    Ignore error in descr about GM4500
     
    embrion, Sep 21, 2009
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  21. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Intel's entire line of CULV and SULV cpu's should not be used for anything but basic activities and browsing.

    No PShop, CAD etc unless you want to spend a lot of time going to get snacks while you wait for things to finish :).
     
    ClearSkies, Sep 21, 2009
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  22. embrion

    embrion Notebook Consultant

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    Really?
    [​IMG]
     
    embrion, Sep 21, 2009
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  23. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Hey thats mine :p

    kidding, This definitely makes you realize that getting an atom doesn't make that much sense :p
     
    Red_Dragon, Sep 22, 2009
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  24. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Point taken and maybe the snacks timeline was a bit exaggerated, but what I was trying to get across - perhaps a bit too strongly - was that (in relative comparison to standard voltage cpu performance) if time is a premium for you then a standard cpu is a much better option than the ULV lines :)

    With all respect to Anandtech, the graph neatly illustrates the 1000pt difference (which is the composite score and not a cpu-bound benchmark; the article doesn't post the full benchmark run) which will certainly translate into real-world performance deltas... if you overclock the cpu it rather reduces the primary benefit of having the low-voltage cpu with its extra battery life and lower heat potential, which is going to be the primary reason that this particular market segment will be purchasing the notebooks.

    You're still looking at 6+ hours of battery even on the overclock, however, which is impressive no matter what. Between the great build/materials quality and performance numbers, I firmly predict that Asus is going to have a real winner on its hands with the entire UL-series and may finally be getting back some of the mojo it lost when it moved away from the higher end V- and W- series,which we older members have lamented for some time.
     
    ClearSkies, Sep 22, 2009
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  25. embrion

    embrion Notebook Consultant

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    Sure, but most of the time, most ppl don't need doesn't need so much computing power (at least I don't, I have desktop PC for that) and they will benefit long battery life and silence from CULV.
    When they need more power, they can OC it and:
    1. such tasks, if planned to take a long time, probably will be performed with power cord
    2. even OCed still delivers great battery life. Shorter but longer than most non CULVs

    [​IMG]

    P.S. Taking into account that 33% OCed SU7300 1,73GHz and that SU9xxx CPUs have +- same performance/clocking ratio I estimate that it would get ~1150points in PassMark CPU Benchmark.
    Now we can check how does it compare to other CPUs :) http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html
    It doesn't look as close to P8400, I must agreebut still. Show me laptop with even 4,5+ battery life with decent look, 13-14" up to 2kg except Macbook Pro 13" ;)
     
    embrion, Sep 22, 2009
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  26. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    LOL, exactly :D.

    Edit 9/25: In their review of the UL30, PCMag has a chart comparing performance of the UL30A with other CULV and the entry level MB. This shows the comparative deficits of the CULV performance.
     
    ClearSkies, Sep 22, 2009
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  27. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Looks are subjective... personally not a big fan of the MBP looks. Besides, a lot of 13-14" can hit 5+ hours and weigh under 2kg...
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 22, 2009
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  28. embrion

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    Please show me some of them ;)
    Except CULV models, I know that Dell 14z and Lenovo Y450 could suite but they're unavailable at my location
     
    embrion, Sep 22, 2009
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  29. sgogeta4

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    Yes, other than those two, there are the Dell Latitude E4300, Lenovo T400s, Sony Z, Sony SR, Samsung Q320, and Toshiba Satellite U505 that do not use the ultra low voltage CPUs.
     
    sgogeta4, Sep 22, 2009
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  30. rayray27

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    Anyone know if the UL80 has a backlit keyboard? Also what do you guys think about gaming on this thing, will it be decent? Looking to run Modern Warfare 2.
     
    rayray27, Sep 22, 2009
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  31. embrion

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    Agree with E4300, I don't like 6-cell battery sticking out but that doesn't change that You're right.

    Lenovo T400s, Sonys: I've forgot to mention "up to 1200$" in EU OR in normal "offline" shop in NY with Worldwide warranty

    Samsung Q320: [​IMG]
    doesn't look like 5+

    U505: definitely more than 2kg, especially with 6-cell and still not even close to 5+
     
    embrion, Sep 23, 2009
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