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    New and updated ASUS Notebooks + Spec/Prices = F8SV, V2S, F3SC, F3SV, G1S, V1S, VX2S(

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by coriolis, Jul 23, 2007.

  1. Ultim4

    Ultim4 Notebook Evangelist

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    The resemblance is astounding I tell you!

    (P.S. I'm biased because I'm really not into the look for the G2 :))
     
  2. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Shame they havent updated their products page with the new models.
     
  3. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    any idea oh specs of the vx2s? and the price difference over the v2s?
     
  4. blow

    blow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Is sure that V1s have a ddr2 v-ram?
     
  5. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    No its not, Its equally likely thats its DDR3 as DDR2
     
  6. blow

    blow Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, probabily they are DDR2 because have 512MB of vram, isn't true?
     
  7. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nothing on the main site about the new models yet, sans the press release.
     
  8. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    Decisions, decisions... My XPS has shipped, and now Asus tempts me back to the fold.. I already have Three quarters of a mind to return the 1330 and go with the V1S, or F8Sv. If only there was a W3S....
     
  9. Ataranea

    Ataranea Notebook Evangelist

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    On the Asus site it says that all models below will include the Intel turbo memory...?
     
  10. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Come back to Asus! ^^.

    And no its not more likely to be DDR2, As this is such a small notebook (Contextually speaking) DDR3 makes far more sense as it produces less heat and draws less power, What does make sense is what theyve done in the MacBookPro, Using DDR3 but clocking it lower than normal. (Still faster than DDR2)
     
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    klezmer41 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just want them to release a new W1.
     
  12. wuzertheloser

    wuzertheloser Notebook Deity

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    can someone tell me the dimensions of the V1s and V2s (specifically weight). Excaliburs site says they're the same...but that doesn't make sense. I know Coriolis posted it earlier, but now I can't find it. Thanks :)
     
  13. admlam

    admlam Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Buried deep in the Which Asus model is this thread...

    That'd be $10 for typing site:forum.notebookreview.com Coriolis V2 dimensions into Google. Thank you. :D
     
  14. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Heh, I got those specs from the ASUS site and I converted it from mm to inches myself ;)

    Google for the win! (As scary as that thought is, our reliance on Google...)
     
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  15. Eiden

    Eiden Notebook Guru

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    Hmmm... I was planning to get an Inspiron 1520, but the Asus G1S has always caught my eye. Nice specs for the price and the screen is oh so sexy, I hear. (As opposed to all the talk of screen graininess on the 1520.)

    An upgraded version of it just may be enough to make me switch.

    I do hope they get those fingerprint readers though, thats something I really want.
     
  16. EXcaliberPC

    EXcaliberPC Company Representative

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    DDR2 Memory will be used for the graphic on the V1S per Asus USA, 512MB is still true tho.

    I did ask them twice, but they do not believe the V2S will support the hot swappable module feature, only the V1S / VX2S for the V series.

    Not certain, on the preliminary spec sheet Asus does not have the turbo memory listed on the V1S/V2S, but my Asus sales implied this option might be implemented on later shipments.

    True, but this issue must have been talked about. I have also reflected this issue to someone at the Asus tech support.

    This is our mistake, sorry about that!

    V1S - Dimensions: 14.3" x 10.4" x 1~1.4" , Weight 5.6 lbs
    V2S - Dimensions: 13.3" x 9.6" x 1.2~1.4" , Weight 5.0 lbs
     
  17. Zedr0n

    Zedr0n Notebook Consultant

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    Will there ever be V2s with 8600 GT?
    Seeing F8s as a successor of A8 I really would like to have a successor of my W3J...
     
  18. mujtaba

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    So far the V2S has only been made available with the 8400.
    As for the successor of the W3J, the F8S does have some similarities with the W3J.
     
  19. FlamingRug

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    Why, Why, Why, Why!?!?!?

    Why would they put an underpowered card on their flagship notebook. That makes absolutely no sense to me. Those 4 little characters loses them a ton of sales.
     
  20. Stella

    Stella Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    It doesn't make sense for them to make the V1S a better gaming computer than the G1S--otherwise why would people buy the G1S?
     
  21. E.B.E.

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    Quite correct. To FlamingRug: also consider heat and battery issues. The best, hottest GPU is also hottest literally; and takes a lot of battery. The V1 is a business notebook, so it should heat up less, be quieter, and have better battery life to be used more on the go.
     
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    All I can say is if Apple can put a GDDR3 8600m GT in a 1" thick chassis then ASUS should be able to fit it in the V1S chassis. Also, I have read elsewhere the GDDR3 uses less power and puts off less heat than DDR2. The increased clock speeds on the GDDR3 card obviously offset this fact, but still, just decrease the clock speed a bit if that is the worry (like on the MBP). I can kinda understand the desire to not step on the toes of the G1S. However, given the choice I would opt to put out the best performing notebook I can in the small sleek chassis of the V1S over putting out an inferior product to protect the sales of the G1S.

    Simply put if the V1S had GDDR3 on its 8600M GT its sales would be exponentially higher, simply because it would crush the competition in terms of blending size, style, and performance. Many people (including myself) don't like the G1S because of its design, and its massiveness (for a 15.4"), and a V1S with optimum specs would be better than any other 15.4" PC santa rosa notebook available.
     
  23. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It would kill the G1s, so it's obvious that they won't and didn't.

    Business class notebooks have 3 main traits, mediocre screen brightness(for more battery life and less heat), mainstream graphics(usually of the lower end, for CAD or general use) and superior build quality(for business class, ones that can afford it). ASUS has been following that, and if they put a GDDR3 8600GT into the V1s, it would kill the G1s as we know it, especially if the prices are so similar but the V1s has better sides.

    It was simply a business decision based on what they saw was right. For all we know, putting a 8600GT in the V1s in the first place is off track since the V1s is a business model.
     
  24. Q8PHANTOM

    Q8PHANTOM Notebook Evangelist

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    Does the V2S really have a 8600GS GDDR3.
    Could anyone confirm that.
    Thanks.
     
  25. odin243

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    Is there any such thing as an 8600GS with DDR2 VRAM?
     
  26. FlamingRug

    FlamingRug Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes but it would also kill every other 15.4" on the market. And it's not like we are talking about putting an enthusiast card into a business model, like throwing a go 7950GTX in it...it's a midrange card, just happens to be the most recent mid range card. If anything it was the bad business decision to come out with a big gamers machine with a mid range card before their business model, thus limiting their options.

    I know I am harping on this issue a lot, but I am just pissed because there is no pc notebook with the specs and the size I want, and I was hoping the V1S would. Nothing but the $2,499 MBP has everything, and those things are just too damn expensive. Now I have to hold out hope that the F8s will have a 8600M GT w/ GDDR3 (not likely for the same reason), or that the version w/ the ATI 2600 is a better performer. Or maybe the VX2S...although i am sure that will break the bank too.
     
  27. Redline

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    Mujy: what is this V2s with an 8400M? I have seen no mention of it; everyone is saying that its getting an 8600GS (type of VRAM notwithstanding)....
     
  28. FREN

    FREN Hi, I'm a PC. NBR Reviewer

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    I think it's a typo on Muj's part :p
     
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    EXcaliberPC Company Representative

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    Just received this today, take a look.

    July Notebook Catalog (11MB), V1S/V2S on page 11, click here.

    As seen in PC World - Sept. 2007 (1.4MB), F8SV-A1 on page 5, R1E-A1 on page 7 , click Here

    More info on Asus 360 Notebook Service Program, click here.
     
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    Omg i cant wait for the f8s.... *drool*
     
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    Does the V1s have a swivel cam or only the V2s?
     
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    Everyone Notebook Guru

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    awesome catalogue pics, but rofl @ the dimensions of the A8S. oops!
     
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    The V1S should be like V1J.
     
  34. EXcaliberPC

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    V1S picture looks the same as the V1J which does not have a swivel cam, but V2S does.
     
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    cool catalogs but runs very slow on my computer.
     
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    Anyone else find it funny that the G1S and the F8S sitting side by side in the PC world thingie. The specs the way they list them are identical except the F8S is smaller and 300 bucks less expensive...smart bit of planning there.
     
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    Will the f8sv have 1 gig or RAM or 2 gigs? Judging by the price it seems like it'll be 1 gig. And the flyer states an MSRP of $1599, was that the same as the F3sv-B1 when it came out?

    Since its in the flyer, does anyone have a more concrete idea of when its coming out, or are we still thinking late august/september?

    Also, I'm new to this whole laptop buying thing. But there seems to be quite a tussle between the f8sv and the v2s based on build quality. How does the f8sv fare against other its competitors in terms of build quality (ie Dell, HP, Toshiba, IBM, etc.) If its comparable or above its competition then thats good enough for me, but if its below then I might have to consider the V2S (and how would that stack up against the same lot)?
     
  38. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Pretty sure it will be 2gb.
     
  39. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Updated first post with specs + prices :)

    The F8 looks awesome, the F9, 12.1" with 8400GS for $1300?!??!?! Jeez!!!
     
  40. Stella

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    Do we know for SURE about the video card on the V1S yet? I'd hate for the G1S-A1 I have on the way to be outdated before it gets here. I'm not worried about the G1S-A2/3 because it does seem like that is just a 7200 RPM HD/Blu Ray drive, and I've ordered an upgraded HD in my A1.

    Thanks everyone for posting all the info!
     
  41. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm pretty sure it will be the 8600GT, but it most likely will not be GDDR3. No word from ASUS yet, but it's an expected move.
     
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    I think every thing will appear after less than a week.
     
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    Yeah, I guess I'll just feel so much better after someone confirms GDDR2. I expect it from a business standpoint, but you never know . . .
     
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    Sounds like wishful thinking... Let's do it! :D

    The F9 sounds very interesting especially for the price. But I'm somewhat disappointed that the 14" F8 is a bit larger than it's A8 predecessor, with the more prominent webcam.
     
  45. coriolis

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    CURVEBALL! :D

    Well, this info hasn't been released publicly, they've announced the models itself, just not the specs. Since it's ASUS, I'd give it around early August :p

    The F8j was the same, 12" with 7400, I'm surprised it never got much attention. The F8 however, does seem a tad larger:

    [​IMG]

    A8: 13.2 x 9.6 x 1.3~1.45, 5.2lbs
     
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    Personally I think Lower Clocked DDR3 would have made more sense, But at the same time I understand not wanting to undercut their gaming powerhouse. It dosent really bother me honestly, Even with DDR2 the 8600GT is still a very good card.
     
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    The F8 is way heavy.... :eek: a full half pound heavier than the A8Js.

    The F9J didn't get much attention because it was released just as the thunder and buildup for Santa Rosa and DX10 was starting. I think though, as a whole, the F9 platform will never sell that well, since it isn't that much cheaper than a nearly identically sized (slightly smaller screen, dimensions, and weight) and specced W7, which is more stylish and offers far better build quality. On page 6 in the July Notebook Catalogue, just compare the specs side by side. Essentially identical, with the W7s commanding a (completely worth it) $50 price premium. The F9 really has no reason to exist, but if it wants to make even a small dent in the market, they need to lower the price by a long ways.
     
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    It looks discouraging with the way things are shaping up (literally) for the F8. At that rate, might as well get a 15.4" notebook. Asus really needs to put their newer notebooks on a diet when pretty much most of them are larger than an HP of the same LCD size and even the previous generation of Asus notebooks.

    Maybe Asus really wants its V2 to succeed? But still, the footprint and thickness is a wee bit larger than the W3 or A8 at 13.4" (length) x 9.6" (width) x 1.1"-1.4" (height), ~5.0lb.

    I think the F9 might have a better chance this time around with the Dell M1210 out of the picture for the people who'd seriously want a 12" notebook. Price is still reasonable considering that was the starting price of the M1210 and even the M1330. Although the price difference won't be a deal breaker between the W7 and F9 anyways.
     
  49. Redline

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    The V2 footprint is slightly larger (chalk it up in part to the rotating webcam - the W3 didn't have one at all, and the A8 webcam was fixed and much lower res), but its over half a pound lighter than the W3 and a quarter pound lighter than the A8, so its better for portability than both.

    The F8 is way heavy. I'm not sure why they needed to make it so....Combined with the sticker price of $1600 (1500 would have been a lot more attractive), this one is quickly going down the tubes. Then again, the V2 faces the same problem as the W3 in that it is immensely desirable, but a bit too expensive...
     
  50. matt_h1

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    Weird that a 14" model is heavier than the V1S.
     
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