OCing X1600 in W3j

Ok, I see that many people still have problems with overclocking X1600's. This is solution that should work in 99% (I left 1% cause you know - expect the unexpected ). Ok, so here we go :

1. Download newest Omega Drivers from www.omegadrivers.net
2. Download ATI TOOL ( NOT ATI TRAY TOOL!!!) from this page http://www.softwarepatch.pl/plik/4025/sterowniki_i_biosy/ATI_Tool_025_Beta_10.html
3. Now, UNINSTALL your current GPU drivers ->reboot
4. Install new Omega's + ATI TOOL ->reboot
5. Start ATI TOOL and DO NOT click on Find Max Memory/Find Max Core!!! In my case program went up to 580/580 and that's 100% unstable values. So we have to do it manualy.
6. Add 10 Mhz to Core and Memory -> save this values -> run 3dm05&06 to check stability
7. If benchmarks passed, add another 10 Mhz to Core and Mems. If not substract 5 Mhz and run benchmarks again.

And that's it. I should work like a charm. I hope it will help, good luck!!

 

Thanks, Mastha! My problem was exactly what you outlined, that I had used "ATI Tray Tools", NOT ATI Tool, hence my difficulty. Once I changed programs everything ran fine.

What has been everyone's success with OC'ing their card? I've gotten up to 490/490 with stable 3dmark05 testing and scores of 4500+. Once I go up to 500 though I get the "blue screen of death" telling me I have a stop error due to the video driver and I get an automatic reboot. I'm thinking it may be a throttling issue where the CPU isn't ramping up to meet the demand? I initially had NHC set to max, but it still was reading at 1.0GHz so I used Dynamic setting instead...

 

My problem is that I am getting a lot of black screens. I was initially getting them just trying to raise my cores speed even 1 mhz. It happened every time I hit the "set clock" button. Since then I went into properties and made it so I don't have to hit "set clock." I can now overclock but I am still getting a lot of black screens. For example, if I hit the "find max mem/core" button I get the black screen every time. The other night I was stable at 486/486 and played CS:S for a couple hours at those settings perfectly. Now I can't even load that profile without getting a black screen. Chaz in the gaming forum told me to make 3 different profiles (a max, medium, and default oc setting) and to load them up gradually.

Is this what you do Mastha or do you not have any problems going straight to 510/510 immediately after booting?

 

I have two profiles : default and OC(510/510),I just load OC and nothing happens, I mean no black or blue or whatever screens.

 

thx, for the tutorial. wow i never oc'd b4 so i didnt know that the 3dmark files were soooooo big.

 

290 some megs for 3dmark05. It's not that bad. If you have cable or DSL it will take you an hour or so.

 

Pretty Pretty please make a similar guide for the 7600Go in the A8Jm, or could you at least offer me some advice as far as which programs to use? Currently on my desktop I use the basic overclocking tool and am trying to figure out how to use riva tuner. Thank you so much

 

Ummm hold on... let me look for a minute.....

Here you go. This thread is your new best friend:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=398013

And disregard the noob at the end of it named "kierkegaard" who professes to be a first time overclocker. Nobody knows who he is. I think he is the village idiot.

 

Just thought I'd note. My card scales down to 324/125 when I'm running off the battery.

 

I'm up to 500/500. And a note about heat in case anyone was wondering. It's not bad in terms of heating the case, which is what I was wondering about. But after a while, that vent was pumping out plenty of hot air. Not hot enough to damage anything, but you'll feel it on your mouse hand. I gamed for a good 3 hrs straight though and that was as bad as it got.

 

rookie... have you tried 510/510 you should try it. Also how does it improve 3dmark05 scores? What scores are you getting OC'ed an non Oc'ed?

 

You OCed X1600 which seats in such small case as W3 - you should expect hot air. But in compare to power that this laptop has, hot air is nothing for me.
BTW. 500/500 is nice score, I guess I have to start thinking about defense my lead position

 

mastha212 try a volt mod and then get the X1600 up to 600/600 lol

 

Hmmm yeah and also make world's-first portable barbeque set

 

Got mine to 510/510 easily, runs about 5715 in 3dMark05, anything over about 513/513 or so and I start getting artifacts. good luck guys!


edit: oops 4715! not 5715...wishful thinking

 

5715??? You mean 4715 I think.

 

Anyone have some insight as to why Kier and I are having difficulty getting past the 490/490 mark? He gets black screens and I get blue. I can try doing another reinstallation of the Omega driver files, other than that I'm not sure. What setting do you have for the CPU?

[EDIT: And incase anyone is wondering it seems that every 10 OC points = 100 3dMark05 points... roughly ]

 

Well I actually made up to 500/500 today and haven't tried to push it any further (don't know if I will). As I noted my comp was crashing a lot when I was loading my OC profiles. This seems to have gone away ever since I started closing the 3d view of the fuzzy dice before I hit load.

If you haven't been doing it, try that.

My black screens have been a result of VPU recovery. I'm not about to turn it off but if I did I could probably by pass the probem.
As for the clocks. Not every comp is going to OC as well as the next. I never expected to get up to Mastha's 510/510 but I'm pretty darn close already .

 

Do you think that voids the warranty? IE...if you overclock it and have some heat related damage (and then can't restart to down clock the card before sending it in)?

To everyone upping the clock speed, are you noticing much more heat being generated?

 

I guess my W3 is Limited OC Edition In future I should get good bid on ebay And about voiding warranty : if your GPU is burned how they figured it out what clock it actually have??

EDIT.
Today I play some NFS MW and I must admit that W3 is just gettin more and more great. 1024x768 with all efects on (including aa+af) and it is smoooooooth

 

Thanks Kier, I'll check that out tonight when I get home.

Also, regarding warranty issues, I left the original clock/mem settings as the default, so when I reboot it starts at 445/445. So I don't think it'd be a problem.

 

i max out at 500/500 score of 4636 anything over 503 gets me a blue screen. dont u have 2 gigs of ram mastha, maybe that helps u get to 520/520. ill try to push it further with a vantec cooler.

 

No, I have 1x1gb 667. In one topic I said I got 519/519 couple of time, but I don't want go to far, so 510/510 is max.

 

ooooh, sorry musta been some1 else. thats crazy then, u lucky guy. i just went thru 3dmark06 and my 500/500 settings didnt work. i just wanted to know if i still should use 500/500 if it worked on 3dmark05 or should i use my max 3dmark06 settings which i havent determined yet?

 

I think max in 05 will be also max in 06 so there is no diffrence. But if not - use lower setting just to be sure.

 

Thanks for the great guide.

Should I use 0.25b10 only? The last beta is number 14, is there any reason to stick with b10?

 

So, has anyone broken 4800 in 3dmark05 yet on their W3j? mastha212 has a score of 4700 something and so does Dangsy.

 

I will use this to some extent! thx!

 

I will try with new Omegas when they come out, but I think 4800 is in range.

 

Hi everybody,

I tried to overclock the ati card on my MBP 2 Ghz yesterday.
I increased the clock and memory speed by 10 MHZ, but the 3d window was activated, maybe that was the problem. The computer crashed.
Since then, when I boot into windows, just at the beginning of the boot-process after the screen turns black, it flashes white before moving on in the boot process.
The same thing happens once more after the XP logo goes away and before the boot process is completed.
The same happens when I start Doom3, it seems to be connected to switching display modes.
When booted to OSX, no funny behavior. I even re-installed windows, but the scren still flashes.
Anyone has a clue what this could be? Is there a way to reset a graphic card to "factory default", or is the graphic card actually damaged? Everything works fine, doom3 runs nicely, I even can overclock when I de-activate the 3d view.


best,

Myno

 

And thats why you dont OC the X1600 in a MBP, massive overheating.

 

Don´t think it was actually overheating, I only went up a few MHZ and it crashed directly. I think it was more the fact that the 3dview was running while switching clock rate.
Without the 3dview running, I can overclock without problems, but the flashing screen stays.

 

has anyone with a intel 2500 tried overclocking their GPU? I'd imagine the increased heat from the 2.0ghz chip will reduce the amount you can overclock the x1600. Any one? Cuz i'm gonna try it when my w3j comes next week.
I bet with a merom you could hit 5000 on 3dmark05.

 

Hey all. Just wanted to point something out. You guys need to disable ATI's powerplay when overclocking so it doesn't get in the way. Also, you should be able to OC with the 3D view open. All that does it give you graphics card a bit of stress to warm it up for stability testing. If you can't raise your clocks with this open, then chances are your computer is not very stable. I suppose if you guys can still run 3D mark and you can play games for a few hours, it won't be much of a problem, but there is a good chance that your computer will just lock up or crash for no reason whatsoever every once in a while. That is, while it is OC'ed.

 

hmmm im overclocking the s96j but the mem doesnt seem to oc very well.

im getting 520/423

anything over 423 will cause the fuzzy dice to produce artifacts. also i cant oc with the fuzzy dice open.

i thought the x1600 is supposed to be 450/450 by default :S
any help is appreciated.

 

Yeah, but the memory might be getting too warm. I'm not sure, but I think that the cooling system uses thermal pads rather than paste on the graphics memory.

 

erm

my s96j seems to get to like mid 60's on oc sometimes. quite worrying.

 

Wouldn't it have more to do w/ being able to tell that the software drivers were messed with?

 

And how, my friend, do they tell that?

Would that be your cpu? My cpu goes up to 73C, without overclocking, when it is under FULL load. This means that BOTH CORES are under 100% useage. Oh, and this was with an ambient temp of 75F. Your ambient temperature has a big effect on system temps. Also, these Intel cpu's are designed to withstant temps will over 80 and 90C. I think the auto-shutdown to prevent damage is around 105C. It depends on which model you have.

 

Any beginners tips here? Is it really worth overclocking my W3J? I see the instructions on how to overclock the gpu and test but how about overclocking the memory?

 

Memory overclocking works same as for the core.

Well, how much did you pay for your W3J, and how much money do you have to buy a new one? Are you ready to void your warranty? Do you really need 55fps in Quake 4 instead of 50? I say, no, for the most part, it is not worth overclocking.

Notebooks really aren't worth overclocking... risks are so much higher, prices are higher, and results are lower. Desktop overclocking on the other hand... look at the desktop in my sig. 3D mark 05 I got 5115 stock. I get 6805 Oc'ed. BIG performance jump. Granted, I had to spend a little extra money on some aftermarket cooling, but I cut the cost of my system by more than half because I bought cheap parts that I knew to be good for overclocking. I built the system for $1000. At the time, the hardware to be getting the kind of score I got with OC'ing would have been around $2500-3500. You can see the benefits here. But in a laptop... you really don't save any money, you don't really get much out of it, and you void your warranty on the whole laptop. Atleast when you build a desktop and you overclock one part, you only void the warranty on that one part. On a laptop, you spend 10 minutes having a little fun OC'ing your graphics card, and you've got a $2000+ piece of hardware that is no longer under warranty.

 

Good advice JPZ.

 

Thanks. I highly advise people who have no OC'ed their laptop to read what I posted above first. +Rep anyone? Haha. Just kidding.

 

Hi, i got my w3j... awesome.

i overclocked using the catalyst 6.7 drivers: 500/503
I hit 4765 in 3dmark05. Could probably go higher (i think someone hit 5000) but i think i'm fine with a solid state notebook.

Incredible since i was running 3105 in 3dmark05 with stock drivers, and 4200 with catalyst 6.7 stock speed.

Just to make sure - when i hit default speed in ati tool - it clocks me back to 450/450. is that right? Will the GPU still underclock on battery saving settings and so on? I don't want ati tools to override the power saving features.

 

BE VERY CAREFUL!!!

You should not have PowerPlay enabled if you are overclocking. If it is enabled, and your laptop tries to switch modes, it will most likely crash. It will end up setting improper clocks if it does not crash. This could result in some serious hardware damage. I would also suggest not overclocking when you are running from your battery. It will drain your battery incredibly quickly.

 

you can either enable powerplay and let it decide for you or you can manually set it yourself in ati tools

 

Not quite. You will save more power if you let powerplay handle it. Reason being, power play does more than mess with clock speeds. It shuts down parts of the gpu to save additional power.

As I said before, make sure not to do any OC'ing with powerplay enabled. It can(and I've experience it with my Uniwill in my sig) and probably will lead to disastrous results. Thankfully all I experience were crashes and lockups.

 

as far as i could tell from ati tools..powerplay only underclocked the core and memory to 325/125..how do you know that it shuts down parts of the gpu to save power

 

while we're discussing powerplay..why is it that when i apply the settings for optimal battery life..the active setting remains optimal performance

 

Huh. its probably lucky that it didnt crash then. thanks for the tip. But just to clarify...
Lets say i turn off power play. i then open ati tool and overlock to 490/490. i save and close ati tool and then run 3dmark05. i get an imprved score. fine.
then i close 3dmark and go back to ati tool and set it back at 450/450. If i then open powerplay and put it on quiet office will it then still underclock the gpu despite ati tool having it set to its default speed 450/450. i.e. will powerplay override ati tool. I am just keen on my gpu going back to normal. right now i am getting a lot of battery life and it isnt hot, so i assume it is okay.