Official Waiting for the ASUS K-Series Thread

Oh i see, thanks for clearing that up for me Sephoroth but i still cant get over the 4860 >.<

 

AMD Turion stock runs at 2.3Ghz which is not bad, so if it's possible to OC this lets say 20% or 30% it would turn out to be a pretty capable CPU.
Don't fret people.All is not lost!

 

never been a fan of overclock... 20% on a laptop is alot of extra heat.

 

You don't have to be but others are!
If any of us is to believe this a "gaming" laptop.
Other than putting in a better stock mobile AMD CPU( The only one AMD Turion CPU I know that is faster is the ZM-86 2.4Mhz TDP 35W, not sure if there is one that is faster).
I don't think heat will be a issue when OCing it, but I could be wrong.
I guess we will have to wait and see it's final performance numbers to actually evaluate it.

 

The L2 Cache is 33% of that of the higher end T/P9xxx series of Intel though and 66% of the T/P8xxx series.

 

how important is l2 cache in contrast to the clock speed of the actual processor?

 

Varies with different CPU series. I am not too familiar with AMD's line and hence can't say much other than they typically carry lower L2 caches. I am guessing undervolters probably wouldn't even consider the overclocking option XD.

 

Most of us laptop owners are natural tweekers and try to squeeze every ounce of performance out of there systems.
I am anyway, so taking the chance of frying it is for me a risk worth taking.

 

Where can I find this model for sale? None of the resellers seem to have it yet.

 

If you're referring to the K series notebooks, it's currently not available yet.

 

The pictures from Cebit says: 2.45 kg (don't know how much lbs that is...), also I don't know if it is with/without power brick.

 

2.45kg = 5.39lbs.
Power brick ~90W (HD 4830/60 consumpted around ~40/50W) .

 

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What is the chance that Asus could release this with higher resolution options? Such a waste...

 

Maybe without power brick . . .

HeRe is full spec.of all K Series models. Intel + ATI ?,ohh forget this (for now) . . .

That's right .

 

It looks like the K70AB will have the 4860 too. The K70AB has a 17.3" screen, which means it will most likely have a higher resolution.

 

5.39 pounds ain't bad..

To 1337Haxors, i only hope that the resolution comes in 1680x1050 or 1920x1200. But then again, 17.3 is WAY too big to be lugging around school

 

I'm willing to bet that even the 17.3" model will have the 1366x768 display.

The only other 16:9 screen might be the 1920x1080 option available as an upgrade to the Studio XPS 16 for example.

Personally, I'd be happy with the 15.6" 1366x768 K51AB

 

AMD is more efficient in the respect that it doesn't need as much L2 cache compared to Intel's Core 2 line since it's memory controller is built into the CPU.

 

wait but i thought that was the big difference between amd zm-84 and a p8400. Whys the p8400 have about 500 more points on cpu mark compared to the zm-84 then?

 

The N81Vg is available at Newegg.

 

so when are these K models going to be released?

 

Not soon enough as far as I'm concerned! If the 15in w/ 4860 is priced appropriately, as people expect it to be, I'll probably get it. More portable + better at gaming = all around win.

That said, most people expect it to be out the beginning or middle of May, most likely, although nothing is concrete.

 

i need benchmarks, :cry:
if it can get a descent framerate on the pcsx2 0.9.6 emulator at the screen resolution, i want this. the main thing im watching out for is:

build quality, durability.
battery life.
heating issues.
and can it play crysis at very high on the screen ress.

 

I'm not a CPU wiz, but it just has to do with how the chip is designed. Intel happened to design an architecture that can do more per clock than AMD (i.e. 2 GHz Core2 > 2 GHz Turion Ultra)

 

tons of ATI HD4770 Reviews (the desktop equivalent GPU of the Mobility4860 GPU going in the K-Series) are coming out, and boy do they look promising.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/28/ati-radeon-hd-4770-gpu-review-roundup/

 

Thanks for that najim. If the 4860 performs commensurately well in the K Series, I reckon vendors are going to favour this chip over the GT 130M and GT 120M in their mid-range multimedia/gaming notebooks.

Who knows, maybe Dell will actually put something decent in the Studio XPS.

Oh look. A flying pig!

 

hm, then again they would overprice the 4860 almost immediately... i can see that happening especially in a Studio XPS. All that aside, i might be a future buyer too.. Lets hope it comes out on May 2-3 like many are hypothesizing.

well asus's build quality is usually quite good. The battery life however is whats always almost mediocre in most of asus's laptops. However with this 40 nm video card, it should have a longer battery life than say a g50vt. That's my very least of hope. As for the ability for it to play crysis at very high, i'd say it'd be possible considering the native resolution is 1366x768

 

Still hoping that I can swap out my 9800GS from my G50VT for a 4860...

 

4860 + good pricing + 2yr global + 1yr accidental + notebook bag/mouse means Asus is a far better buy than anything else.

Hopefully they go WSXGA+ or WUXGA as well.

that doesn't sound very smart, waste of cash if you end up paying more...

 

And the more detailed explanation is all about FLOPS - FLoating point Operations Per Second

As orcymorky pointed out, the current Intel offerings outperform the current AMD offerings in the amount of work they can perform at the same clock speed.

Interestingly enough, the Radeon HD4800 series is the first GPU to achieve a one teraFLOP scale(10^12 Operations per second).

 

i have a feeling that just when asus release the k series, AMD will announce the "tigris" platform with 45nm "caspian" CPU.

 

when is caspian supposed to come out anyways?

 

2009 says the timelines

 

Well I mean I would have to first try to get a 4860 part instead of ripping it out of a K-series first.

And if it works, I would be selling my 9800GS to people with G50V.

In the end, I shouldn't be wasting too much money.

The problem is I don't know if it works, considering the 4860 is put on AMD platforms only on the K-series.

 

very very vague timeline XD

 

well now we know it can't be more then 246 days or 354628 mins!

 

So Asus have added the following to the 'Versatile Performance' range on their global website:

• K50IJ
• K50IN
• K40IJ
• K40IN

The specs (besides the CPU/GPU options here) are sadly, pretty much what we feared: no Blu-Ray option, no Bluetooth (!?), no e-Sata, no fingerprint reader and no HDMI, and I don't imagine they'll be much different in the K51AB. Perhaps we'll see a little more in the K70, but still, I doubt it.
If these specs are final, Asus really aren't kidding when they say 'No Frills'.

Of course, I'm still hopeful that the K51AB will make up for all this economy by justifying our faith in the 4860.

 

^ that really does look hot though

 

very cool looking except the strange patterns on the palm rest and cover. looks like it has computer acne

 

Will the K series be available in Canada?
an if so will it be available the same time that it is released in the US?

(ill be very disappointed if it doesn't have bluetooth though-i love my bluetooth mouse)

 

I do like the touchpad, but the over all aesthetics kinda reminds me of the Dell Vostro 1000 series - in other words, kinda bland.

 

wow!
no hdmi and no e-sata seems like deal breakers for me
i helpd off on a sager 8662 for this but now i dont know

 

the only deal breaker i see is the exclusion of bluetooth and the hdmi. Then again, this is the budget laptop.

 

This laptop is getting stranger by the minute. No Bluetooth AND no HDMI? Why would Asus put such a strong GPU in there without putting anything in there to back it up? I mean the lack of a strong CPU is one thing...maybe even the lack of basic luxuries such as BlueTooth...but HDMI? Do they expect the GPU to just sit in there and produce heat? I mean seriously, even many netbooks have HDMI these days.

 

maybe someone should try and convince them to change an already finalized product XD

you're best off waiting for newegg.ca to come out with it. I know by experience that ncix.com is also quite updated when it comes to laptops, expect to see it within 1 month usually.

 

+1 . I am wondering how this laptop will fair against the N81Vp in terms of benchmarking.

 

We should certainly wait for the K51 and K70 specs to apear on the resellers' sites before giving up entirely on Bluetooth, e-Sata and HDMI. It could be that these features have only been omitted from the low-end models.

I'm still hopeful, but I'm also wondering if we'll see a 4860 option in the N51's in the months to come.

 

The models seen on cebit video & news had a clean chassis in silver/grey - black (that was o.k.) and now it is all black with acne. Damn, what the hell is that ... I DON'T LIKE THAT

If Asus keeps doing this crap (e.g. missing features) I will buy an MSI or other book instead. And why aren't any others selling notebooks with 4860 ??? And not with the fu**ed-off Puma Platform!

 

the K IN series should have HDMI because of the Nvidia card. Asus must have made a mistake.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g102m_us.html

read the page bottom of the K IJ and IN series it quotes.
"All specifications are subject to change without notice"

 

as per all their specs XD
But that would only be in nvidia offerings wouldn't it? I think most of us are excited for the 4860 rather than the nvidia 1XXm gpu's

Its quite interesting that you bring this topic up. The t9550 in the n81vp will no doubt trample over the turion zm-84 breaking no sweat. Since 3dmark06 takes into account of cpu too, i'm hoping the advantage of the 4860 over the 4650 will be enough to overlook the poor processor choices in the k51ab. After all it is 320 vs 640 stream processors and the 4860 has a higher clock than the 4650.

Edit: Now that i look at it again.. cpu benchmark states the the t9550 scores a striking 1809 points compared to the wimpy 1105 points of the zm-84, a difference of about 64% in terms of processor performance. I'm still all for the k series though XD