Problem on Z70V... Ideas?

well updated audio... nothing... >_< still have 2 try it with my friends and see the result... but !@# drakon u luky bastard if this doesnt work... or maybe ill have to fresh install... but i like my baby the way it is now...

 

scott, I don't suggest you reinstall windows, because from the looks of it you just have a model that is not capable of working with that controller.

Just try to find out which revision it is and get one that is the same as drak0n.

I would.

Cheers,
Mike

 

Well Mike I only suggested a reinstall as a last resort. Just trying to rule out things (sw related). If after a reinstall, the card still doesn't work, then scott can firmly conclude that his card isn't working with the controller. I'm guessing most of the current cards out there now are the new revisions (ie. longer models). And going off the s/n doesn't seem to be a full proof solution, because every card has a different s/n.

Here are some threads I found relating to the ricoh controller:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=pcmciasb&message.id=1883
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=pcmciasb&message.id=1297
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=pcmciasb&message.id=1494

This one seems to be pretty interesting. It talks about the different versions. I got the blister pack.
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=pcmciasb&message.id=1327

 

Whoa wicked post drak0n~! Thanks~!

Hrmm, so the blister pack is the updated one eh?

How do you know if it's a blister pack version?

 

I'll take a picture of what it looks like

 

some guy on the forums listed also fresh installed and it cleared up and he had a "black listed" driver 2... maybe ill try that if all else fails... seems like hit and miss with the "black listed" drivers and creative seems in no rush to begin to care about issuing a driver to address the issue... >_<.... maybe ill just try to return it and get the "blister pack" thing .... where did u buy ur card from neway? best buy?

 

Here is what the blister pack looks like. And Scott, I bought mine from Zipzoomfly.com. They were the cheapest. A word of caution though, their customer service isn't the best. I bought stuff many times from them in the past, but this is the 1st time I've got to return anything and I wasn't very pleased with the service. The rep was giving me the run-around when I was asking about having the card replaced with a new one. Will call back on Mon to see if I get another rep and get this resolved.

Edit: Amazon has it also, in case you're interested: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...r_1_3/102-8921212-4425763?_encoding=UTF8&s=pc

 

I thought it came in a box, weird.

So again, how do we tell if it's a blister pack?

 

thats not really a box though... mine i think actually came in like a box not covered by plastic... so i think that would be a blister pack.... i guess? dunno... i didnt even see my full packaging my bro had taken it appart but it was inside what i think was inside the shell of the box... (smaller box... )

 

Mike, unless the online retailer specifically says which version it is, then the only way to know which version they're selling is to call and ask. If you're buying it at a local store, then you can see which one is available yourself

Btw, the pics I posted is the blister pack. Everything comes in that little package.

 

So the blister pack is the version packed in that plastic casing right?

Okay I will look for one.

 

Okay I found two pictures, can't always trust pictures, but what the hey, of this sound card. Tell us which one you have.

This one http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=006289&cid=SC

Or this one
http://www.thesourcecc.com/estore/P...g=Online&category=Audio+Cards&product=2513040

I don't know which one is newer, but the Canada Computers site says PCMCIA TYPE II only, so I'm guessing this is the newer one?

 

I just compared the picture in the Amazon.com site to the picture of the one at Canada Computers and it's the same one, with the audigy sticker facing horizontally, so I guess that's the one.

Hope it works, but before I buy I'm asking if I can return it if it doesn't work. I hope they say yes.

Wish me luck guys~!

 

So scott which one do you have?

The one with the sticker lettering running lengthwise or widthwise?

 

The 2nd one, Mike

 

mines the 1st one... ****... well i guess i shall try to return it / exchange it for that one...

 

drak0n you serious? Hrmm, that totally throws that theory out the window.

So maybe the stickers don't really tell us which one is newer? The picture on the Amazon site is the same as the canadacomputers.com link, dang.

So the Blister Pack version is with the sticker width wise like in the www.thesourcecc.com picture eh?

Hrmm.

 

>_< well this is fun...

 

No it ain't. I got an email from Canada Computers about the soundcard and they said if I return it because it just doesn't work with my laptop I have to pay the 15% restocking fee.

Dang it I've bought so much stuff from them and they can't give me a break? Dayam. I emailed them back and asked if I could return it without the restocking fee because I've bought so much stuff from them and that I'd show them receipts if needed.

I wish drak0n would let me borrow his soundcard to see if it works on my system and then return it to him. This way I could be sure.

Hrmm, how about it drak0n?

 

Haha, don't think that's possible, bud. I'm trying to get this thing replaced Besides, like I said earlier from what I've read the cards that come in the blister pack (plastic) are the revised versions. Just call them and ask if they have those, Mike.

 

Well folks, I got tired of waiting for your results, so I went ahead and bought it from Best Buy today (What can I say? I'm impatient ). Anyway, it came in the plastic thingy and works perfectly fine on my Z70Va. If you have any more questions, just ask.

 

Well congrats

 

Woo hoo~!!!! Go Lefty~!!!!

I'm satisfied now. Gonna order one up but wanna be 1000000% sure of everything so if you could post pictures of your packaging for me Lefty.

The place I wanna buy it from has a restocking fee of 15% like most places, but they also have the cheapest prices so I wanna be sure.

$99.99 at Canada Computers. Canadian dollars of course.

 

MY package is the same one that drak0n posted a little while ago.

 

What about the sticker on the unit itself? lettering goes the length of the unit or width of the unit?

 

It goes the width, so the words align with the Creative etching at the top.

 

Ooooooh, so that's the new one.

So you have it working in advanced mode huh.

Okay gonna get me one of those over at the source by circuit city and see if they can price match Canada Computers.

They have it listed at 169.99 which is WAY overpriced since Canada Computers has it at 99.99.

Sweeeeeeeet.

 

Sweeeeeeeeet, called Canada Computers and found out their version is the same as you guys~! It's the latest one, so any PCMCIA Audigy 2 ZS in the plastic packaging is the new Blister Pack.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet 99.99 canadian, ooooooooh yeah, gonna pick one up as soon as I get some cash.

YES~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Mike

 

That's what I've been saying all this time

 

Oh.

Well, umm, thanks

Rep points for you~!!!!!

Edit:: I already gave you rep points so I can't anymore.

 

Here's an update from Creative's support group. I sent them an email about their blister pack version working with our black listed controllers and this is what they had to say.

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your response. I have forwarded your information to our
suggestion department. If you have any further questions or comment,
please respond accordingly.

For faster service please reply with previous correspondence when
replying to this email.

Best Regards
,

Stacia (15594)
Technical Support
Creative Labs Americas



To provide feedback on your "Creative Experience" please click on the
following link:

http://www.creativehelp.com/support/contact/welcome.asp?r=CLI&d=TS

This link is provided so that you may provide feedback on your "Creative
Experience". If you require further troubleshooting or have additional
questions simply reply to the original mail and we will be glad to
assist you.

Original Message Follows:
------------------------

Just so you guys at Creative know, your updated Blister pack version of
the Audigy 2 ZS Notebook PCMCIA soundcard does work with the RICOH
controller in the Asus Z70Va, so it must work with other notebooks with
the same PCMCIA controller.

Another user at www.notebookreview.com has got it to work with his
notebook with no problems. You should update your website's compability
chart.

The one that doesn't work is the older card in the box, the ones in the
plastic packaging do work.

Cheers,
Michael




--- On Thu 03/16, Creative Americas Customer Care <
[email protected] > wrote:
From: Creative Americas Customer Care [mailto:
[email protected]]
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:00:36 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: CLI - Customer Service Request (KMM9533306I16636L0KM)

Dear Michael,Thank you for contacting Creative Technical Support.It is
my understanding that you are interested in the Sound Blaster Audigy 2
ZS Notebook and have heard rumors that it now works with the Ricoh
PCMCIA controller.To our knowledge, none of the incompatible PCMCIA
controller vendors or Creative has released a driver update to make the
card work properly. We did release a new driver update recently, but
unfortunately it did not combat any PCMCIA compatibility issues.If the
member of notebookreview.com was able to resolve this issue, he should
be able to pass along this useful information to other customers and it
should work as well. As you indicated, you could not duplicate his
results. Unfortunately if there is a resolution, we have not gottenany
notice of it. If you have any more questions or concerns, please feel
free to respond accordingly.For faster service please reply with
previous correspondence when replying to this email.Best Regards,James
(15353)Technical SupportCreative Labs Americas- - -Experience Sound
Blaster X-Fi -- it will make all of your music, games, and movies sound
better! http://us.creative.com/redirect.asp?id=989Zen Vision:M delivers
loads of entertainment -- 15,000 songs, 120 hours of video, and tens of
thousands of photos -- without the
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Plan is now available for Sound Blaster X-Fi!Find freedom with genuine
Creative accessories for you Zen, MuVo, Sound Blaster, and
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on your "Creative Experience" please click on the following
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his
link is provided so that you may provide feedback on your
"CreativeExperience". If you require further troubleshooting or have
additional questions simply reply to the original mail and we will be
glad to assist you.Original Message
Follows:------------------------=======================Subject: CLI -
Customer Service RequestName: Michael LeeE-mail Address:
[email protected]elf Description: Advanced PC User Country:
CanadaInquiry Type: Product informationProduct Purchased: Detailed
Description of Inquiry:I've read that the PCMCIA Audigy 2 ZS Notebook
does not work with the Ricoh R5c476(II)controller, but if you go to this
link, http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen7as.jpg,you will see
that it does indeed work with it. This user is a member
ofwww.notebookreview.com forums.He got it to work, but another user
couldn't, with the same controller on the sameAsus Z70Va laptop. My
question to you guys at Creative is how many revisions did youmake of
this soundcard and which one will work with this PCMCIA controller if
any.I would really like to purchase this product, but want to know which
revision is thelatest one if any new ones or any revisions have come out
at all.Thank you for your
time,Michael=======================

 

so did u get the blister pack version and it did work?

 

No money yet, soon, very soon, couple weeks or so.



That last guy who got it working sold it for me so I'm going to get one for sure scott.

I suggest you do the same and get a replacement for yours to the blister pack.

 

i will im having some issues getting onto the account with which it was purchased... hopefully they will take the return... otherwise its on Ebay... but yeah it seems the blister pack = the solution... !@# creative though... customer support = abysmal...

 

hahaha, yes their customer support is kinda *cough*. yeah.

I don't see why you won't be able to return it though. Goodluck.

Give us an update on your situation when you get it resolved.

cheers,
mike

 

FINALLY TOOK THE PLUNGE~!

I went out as soon as I had the cash and spent it on one of these bad boys, instead of using the money to drink.

Can't believe I did that, but I did.

Now I just have to wait for my laptop to come in after it gets serviced.

My reseller says Asus has my baby right now and should be in early next week.

I can't wait. I hope it works for me like it did you drak0n and the other guy.

Edit:: Oh yeah, did you guys get a hardcase with it or a ****py plastic sleeve thingy?

 

Hard case? Plastic sleeve? Wha???

 

Do you mean the carrying case, Mike? Mine was flismy plastic sleeve.

 

Hahaha, yes Lefty Supremacist. If you looked carefully in the contents of the packaging you would have seen something that resembled saran wrap.

Yes, that is the carrying case. How sad. I thought the carrying case was a hard plastic shell. What a jip on that part~!

So you guys are still having no problems running your cards in ADVANCED MODE eh?

I have a couple questions for you guys. Aren't you scared you're going to break the thing? It feels so delicate and weak. Looks like aluminum to me so it might bend eh?

My S/N is M1SB0530521000910J and model is 580530, made in Malaysia.

 

Hrm... I don't remember any seran wrap. *Shrug* Oh well, doesn't bother me much. Anyway, I'm gentle with the thing, so I'm not too worried. I also run it in advanced mode just fine, so err... don't know where you got that from.

 

Don't know where I got what from???

 

The notion that we were having problems in advanced mode. Of course, I can only speak for myself, so I apologize in advanced if you were speaking about someone else.

 

Ooooooh, okay, that's positive reinforcement for mine working on my baby I guess.

Niiiiiiice.

 

To be honest, I think the build quality could be much better. The thing feels really flimsy. I sent mine back because it had some cracks in it, and I have no idea how that happened. I didn't do, that's for sure. A rep as ZZF said that they can't replace it, because they don't accept "damaged" returns. Voids the return policy. He also said that he'll try to send it to Creative to see if they'll replace it. Such BS with ZZF! Anyways, check out the cracks below:
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=n23095411jg.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3988/n23095420im.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1583/n23095438yg.jpg

Btw, no offense Mike, but I think you're a little too paranoid. I've told you before that I didn't have any problems with it; even showed you a pics of it installed, and working in Advanced mode. The only way you'll know if yours is working is if you try it out when your laptop returns. So relax!

 

Oh man those cracks are horrible~!

That's such bs when resellers do stuff like that. I guess I can kind of understand because they don't know if you did it or not, but still sucks how they say, no we can't accept damaged goods, but you didn't do it.

Goodluck with that drak0n and yeah I'm a freak...

 

Hey you guys know how I got my soundcard a couple weeks ago right?

Well I got my notebook back today~!!!

I already posted my joy with this thing in the ACCESSORIES section of this site, so go check it out, but yeah, this thing is great.

IT'S FULLY FUNCTIONAL, NO WEIRDNESS~! I think, since I have nothing to compare it to, but it's working in advanced mode, and I set everything up, so it's working.

Music sounds freakin' terrific on this thing, WOW, THE BASS.

 

Congratulations, glad its working for you.

 

Thanks lefty~! It was you that got me going because you just couldn't wait and got one, but it worked~!

I know Drak0n had his working, but I was still skeptical since only he had it working.

Hey did your installation of the software and drivers get rid of the default windows sound icon/software? I don't like this Creative Sound Control as a replacement, but no big deal. Also when you have headphones plugged in can you control your volume level with your notebook's FN+ function to change the volume? I can't.

Sound is great, bass is just ridiculous~! hahaahha

I have to turn down the bass when using my notebook's speakers because the frequency is out of range for the tiny speakers so it distorts.

Oh yeah guys, since you have the M6 series notebooks I suggest removing the dummy card in the media reader before inserting your soundcard because it seems to get in the way and comes in contact with the card itself when installed. This might be how drak0n cracked his casing. Slight annoyance, but no big deal.

Feedback guys that have it working, I wanna see how it's working out for you.

Cheers,
Mike

 

Really Mike? Hmmm, I'll have to try that once I get my card back from ZZF.
Btw, glad it's working for you

 

Hmm, it doesn't do that for me. Mines has both the realtek controls and creative controls running at the same time. Also, I cancontrol the volume from the Fn keys just fine. Have you tried the updated drivers from creative ?