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    Question about the c90s

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Billy Dee Williams, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. Billy Dee Williams

    Billy Dee Williams Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all,
    Sorry if this is a noobish question, but where would one buy a gpu and other notebook guts down the road to take advantage of the c90s' ability to upgrade? I cant wait for the day when we will be able to put together laptops like we can desktops. :D Cheers to the c90s!!
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The basic CPU/RAM/HD would be from any retailer that carries it, but the other parts would normally be from ASUS dealers, or so the idea is thought to be.
     
  3. Billy Dee Williams

    Billy Dee Williams Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry, I should have been more clear. I know of places like newegg for RAM and whatnot, but Im clueless about finding graphic cards. You're saying that I could buy a notebook gpu from an Asus dealer? Is it hard to find a dealer that sells notebook parts like a gpu?

    Thank you for the reply.
     
  4. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    They don't sell it yet, because it doesn't exist.

    When the c90s comes out, don't expect to be able to change it GPU-wise for a while.
     
  5. jbizzler

    jbizzler Notebook Consultant

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    coriolis is lying. Right now, ASUS is selling 2 GPUs, the 8600M GT 512mb and 8600M GS 256mb. I'll try and get some links for you. They also sell a TV-Tuner, HD-DVD and Blue-Ray drive specifically branded for the C90S.

    8600M GS 256mb(Most places say 8500. That's old and wrong I think)
    http://www.google.com/products?q=90-C1CJ90-HXBN00Z&show=dd
    http://www.google.com/products?q=c90s+8500&show=dd

    8600M GT 512mb:
    http://www.google.com/products?q=90-C1CIZ5-JXBN00Z&show=dd
    http://www.google.com/products?q=c90s+8600&show=dd

    TV-Tuner
    http://www.google.com/products?q=90-NQ02P1000Z&show=dd
    http://www.google.com/products?q=c90s+tv-tuner&show=dd

    HD-DVD
    http://www.google.com/products?q=90-NQ01W2000Z&show=dd
    http://www.google.com/products?q=c90s+hd-dvd&show=dd

    Blu-Ray
    http://www.google.com/products?q=90-NQ01W3000Z&show=dd
    http://www.google.com/products?q=c90s+blu+ray&btnG=Search&show=dd

    This is the first time I realized Blu Ray has no e!

    These are the parts you buy seperately and can upgrade:
    CPU
    Memory
    GPU
    Harddrive
    Wireless Card
    TV-Tuner
    Optical Drive(Comes with a DVD Burner, and be upgraded to HD-DVD or Blu-Ray)
     
  6. lunateck

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    Well, he was lying for less than 1 day only... u cant expect him to know that in 1 short day.
     
  7. jbizzler

    jbizzler Notebook Consultant

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    Please take what I said as comically, non-offensively as possible. But those links I posted haven't changed much in the past few weeks, just now say "in stock" a little bit more than before.

    Billy, this is the first time notebook graphics cards have been sold retail, and they're specifically for the C90S. Before, you had ot make special requests. The rest have been a little more findable.
     
  8. Billy Dee Williams

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    Thanks for the info jbizz , before I heard about the c90s and its upgradability, I had my sights set on a MBP...Now I have to decide. :err:
     
  9. kickace

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    well, i wouldn't call it that upgradable in my opinion

    the most it can use is the x6800, because the new cpu's coming out july 22nd are 1333mhz fsb which won't work

    and if they do work, it will downclock the fsb to 1066mhz - which because its a locked mutiplier, will decrease the speed anyway (mutiplier is 8 - 2.66ghz goes to 2.13ghz)

    the memory is capped at 3GB which sucks in my opinion but it can use 800mhz ddr2, hard drive and dvd drive are upgradable like others

    basically the only difference from other laptops is the graphics card, which is a great thing for alot of people, but thats about it thats different.

    **but still - this laptop at full power will be much more powerful over future mobile processors well into 2008 if not 09
     
  10. jbizzler

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    I agree kickace. Even though you may never be able to upgrade the CPU, that's okay because current Conroes are plenty powerful. With games becoming mroe and more GPU bound, being stick with a CPU is less and a less of a problem. Your only other option for a Conroe notebook is the Clevo D900C, which towers over this in price an non-portability.

    I also think 2GB of RAM is plenty and will be for a while.

    Down the road, the upgrades I see myself doing from my initial build are the GPU if they make any signifigantly better ones, getting a TV-Tuner later, maybe an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray drive, depending on how that market goes, and a better harddrive deping on how that goes as well. The CPU and RAM will already be pretty maxed out when you buy it.

    If you get an MBP anywhere around the price-point of the C90S, it'll be far less powerful, but far more portable too.
     
  11. narsnail

    narsnail Notebook Prophet

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    exactly, we have had a P4 1.7(which blows whale chunks) for 6 years and only in the last 1 or 2 years has it gone completly obsolete, more the last 6 months, and i have a gig of ram and an x700, i can play most games at decent settings, and the only reason they would be choppy is the **** a** processor we have, i actually hate the thing, thats not the point though, im sure a e6700 will last any notebook user 4 another 4 to 5 years easily
     
  12. kickace

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    i think the x6800/e6700 oc'd in this will be faster then the top speed mobile processor for atleast another year, if not 2, even with penryn coming out for mobiles. so not only will it last 4-5 years, but it should stay faster then the best mobile processor for quite a while also
     
  13. AlexOnFyre

    AlexOnFyre Needs to get back to work NBR Reviewer

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    You should be able to overclock the FSB to 1333 and use them. So it should be upgradible to those.
     
  14. kickace

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    you mean u think that if you put in the e6850, it gets downclocked to 1066mhz, but overclock it back up to 1333mhz or higher and get the speed back?

    i was thinking that woudl work too and really, u could overclock it past a 1333mhz fsb since it was 1333mhz cpu anyway and the tdp is the same as the e6*00 series.


    please correct me if wrong :)
     
  15. jbizzler

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    Well, here's what worries me. This is a pretty old chipset. Even top-of-the-line 975Xs had to be soddered or rebought to get Conroe support. It's quite possible that the C90S may not support Peneryn just for some tiny hardware reason. But if the C90P exists, and does use a Bearlake it will certainly support Peneryn.

    Edit: Oh, we're talking about 1333MHz Conroes. I wouldn't confidently tell someone it'd work, but I guess it's possible. P965s and 680is only need BIOS updates if I'm not mistaken. But those are much newer chipsets, so who knows.
     
  16. AlexOnFyre

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    haha, the C90S will never support Penryn, which is a mobile proc. :p
     
  17. kickace

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    lol everyone thinks that penryn is the desktop future proc.

    wolfdale and yorkfield is the desktop 45nm processors with the bearlake chipset

    wolfdale being the dual core, yorkfield being the quad core
     
  18. The Forerunner

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    Why pay premium prices for penryn?

    Say that 10 times fast. Penryn is not that revolutionary if your going to get penryn might as well wait 1-1.5 years for nehalem which is going to be a big leap like the jump to core architecture.
     
  19. kickace

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    well hell, if you wait for nehalem, you might as well wait 10 -11 years for bazooga - 32 cores!!!!
     
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145048
    ( grab it fast $20 for 1GB Crucial )

    I just ordered my C90s as I contacted Gentech, and they said they would hopefully start shipping new orders by mid next week.

    I wanted your opinions. Should I get an E6600 now, or wait for July 22 to possibly receive a price drop. Also, do the benefits from getting a E6600 for $40 more outweigh the E6420 for $40 less?

    I purchased only 1 stick of RAM for now ( to get two receipts for rebates, heh ), but I was wondering if I should go ahead and grab the other stick of RAM and the CPU. Also since it is unconfirmed if the C90s can handle the new 45nm procs on July 22, I was wondering if I should wait. Thanks
     
  21. kickace

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    the only current cpu that is set to get a price drop is the quad core, the E6X00 is simply bein replaced by the E6X50 series

    the c90s will NOT be able to handle the 45nm processors - and the processors coming out july 22nd are NOT 45nm - they are simply raised fsb (1066 -> 1333), still 65nm.

    the 45nm processors won't come out till later in the year
     
  22. The Forerunner

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    No my point was stick with conroes for now since they are still very powerful and will continue to be powerful maybe until the high end geforce 9 series when the conroe will become the bottleneck. So stick with the conroe then upgrade to nehalem, no reason to rush over to penryn its only a die shrink and some more sse4 instructions. I rather take an entirely new microarchitecture over a die shrink.

    If you have an old system then go ahead with penryn, my point was no point upgrading from conroes to penryn.
     
  23. kickace

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    oh i know, i just wanted to add that, i thought people would laugh....sadly im not funny