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    Question, Feedback - ASUS Sale Rep on the floor

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by frankwu, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    Frank,

    If we get off on that tangent....... you're right, but if we want to compare - Asus' S-presso systems beat the hell out of a shuttle system - but selling them is near impossible because Asus doesn't throw the money behind them to market them - and truth be told - Asus doesn't help us out enough to do the level of marketing needed to accomplish that....... that really goes from the s-presso, down to the notebooks and then to the pocket pcs.... Asus is marketing itself, but they aren't marketing us and by "us" I mean their dealers.

    .... I noticed Asus put our name in some chinese newspaper in san francisco ..... that sort of stuff helps, but the newspaper is in chinese and only a Chinatown dedicated paper...... since we don't speak chinese here - honestly that doesn't seem like the smartest place to drop out name...... I've seriously thought about letting this company run itself and come to Asus and help out the marketing guys full-time.....
     
  2. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

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    eddie Geek squad is a joke i wouldnt even let them in my home. We dont really cater to the average person i mean i will do small home theatre and we do. But we are more upper high end setups. Right now Most our work is new contructions, multi room audio is the number one thing our customers seem to want. But first we wire the new contruction. then install the speakers audio video equipment whole house controlled by one remote. And we also furnish the rooms if they like. We use Special acoustic material and Theatre seating base shakers under the seats.

    Asus really doesnt do any advertising doesnt make sence. I mean i cant tell you how many people have come up to me and ask about the W2V i own then i say asus they are like whos asus. Most people wont buy a laptop unless they are in best buy. But i really dont think there is a better hardware company than asus when it comes to pcs.
     
  3. PROPortable

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    Asus is an ODM and their venture into retail wasn't fully thought out.......... every other ODM is going go have a company that's main goal is marketing......... I mean any brand you know in the US... that's really all they do... they don't actually make their products.

    Asus doesn't understand this and I know from experience...... five years of doing this has taught me that they are starting to understand it ---- but all of their attempts are ridiculously stupid - although good intentioned....... Asus as a whole has money to back some serious advertising, but since the US office is essentially it's own company, they really don't have access to anything more in terms of advertising than the print ads that they make in Taiwan for the world to use.....
     
  4. Geared2play.com

    Geared2play.com Company Representative

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    Heres another not so bright idea. So i get calles from customers who got referred from asus sales reps. Why are you referring locals to us? They will not buy becuase of sales tax. Refer someone from another state insteadx. If you just refer locals they call in I help them spend much valuable time on the phone helping out then times comes to buy. When they hear we charge 8.35% for NY residents they dont buy they go to the next vendor. If you guys are going to refer someone to me dont send New Yorkers my way, i dont consider it a flavor. I am glad to help but spending 30 min on a conversation that i know will not lead to a sale only becuase of local tax is just not my idea of time well spent.
     
  5. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

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    But does asus really want its retail bussiness to do that well? i mean if they are the ODM for so many others wont they be competing against them which would piss them off? All i know is if they put the w3v in stores they would sell an imcredible amount of them im sure.
     
  6. Jumper

    Jumper Notebook Deity

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    Well if Congress and the states have their way, sales tax will apply to interstate sales over the 'net soon. They are working on a way to do it now.
     
  7. markadmin

    markadmin Newbie

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    When is the Asus W2J going to be available?

    Thanks
     
  8. SRD

    SRD Notebook Virtuoso

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    IM guessing you are gonna wait about 2 months for the W2J
     
  9. Insane

    Insane Notebook Evangelist

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    back to the feedback on the notebooks.

    Well from reading this thread it seems like most of you, or 'apparentally' most of you wont touch a notebook under $1500.

    Well I'm a university student, and every cent counts, and I'm sure that quite a number of you will feel the same way. I really dont see whats wrong with buying a sub $1800 or $1500 notebook, after all not everyones needs are equal.

    I understand that for some of you its all about showing off your high range ASUS model, and thats ok, but for ppl living in the real world I cant fault the build quality of the A6 series. Ok, so its not quite a V6 or a w2 or whatever but after looking at what other notebook manufactures have to offer I'm quite proud of my z92U and my girl friends A6Vc. Both similar notebooks.

    I work part-time in retail and sell notebook along with many thousand other products at work, and yes the asus are the best with a long lead over the competition, and YES there are many ppl willing to pay $100 more NOT to get a Acer or toshiba, but still keeping it under $1500, and sometimes lower.


    I totally agree that ASUS needs some help with marketing, they really do need to get OUT there into peoples homes and let the general public know what they stand for and what they have to offer as most of the customers I deal with have never heard of ASUS., but at the same time, good products sell themelves (to a extent).


    Insane
     
  10. primetime

    primetime Notebook Consultant

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    I like the affordability of the A-series line of Asus notebooks. However I find that the A-series line has thing one thing that should be changed in order for it to be more value-oriented.

    I wish the A-series line had a modular bay like the z70/z63 series line. I would find this more useful than a built-in camera. A modular bay offers alot in a notebook, an extra hard drive/battery/travellers drawer/etc that could increase the functionality of the notebook. A built-in camera that probably isn't used 80% of the time is not a value addition in my opinion. Because a notebook is usually bought for productivity and having a modular bay that could:

    1) Make the notebook lighter (Travellers Drawer)
    2) Increase Battery Life (Modular bay battery)
    3) Have more storage space (Extra HDD)

    Would offer more in terms of value.

    There you go Frank, feedback on the A-series line :)
     
  11. Cygnus311

    Cygnus311 Notebook Consultant

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    Greg, do you know me or something? Becaue you just described me and my situation spot on. :D You guys have probably seen my "Gaming Asus under $2K" thread in here. I have to say that when I began this search for a new laptop about 2 weeks ago, I hadn't ever heard of Asus. Now, I'm heavily leaning at ordering the Z70Va within the next week thanks mostly to learning about them after stumbling across notebookreview.com.

    What is so appealing to me is like everyone keeps saying...the build quality and just overall professional design and performance. It's worth noting that I'm a lifetime Apple user and current Powerbook user, and now the time has come that I need a Windows laptop for school. After countless hours of researching, nothing else besides Asus appears likely to satisfy me the way Apple's quality has and does with my Powerbook. I think that's all I really have to say right now other than thanks to anyone that has given me feedback/advice and if I do pull the trigger on that Z70Va here in the next couple days, I look forward to more interesting lappy talk in the future.

    :asus: :apple2:
     
  12. primetime

    primetime Notebook Consultant

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    The z70va is an awesome laptop. If I had more money (don't we all) I'd like to get that as my gaming laptop. Also, it's got a modular bay, the same as my w3v which I just love.

    I wonder if there are any Asus laptops that are coming out that offer the modular bay? Hmm... (value oriented I hope! A-series!!)
     
  13. EndlessMe

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    A little question...
    How come there's no W6 in North America?
     
  14. PROPortable

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    search the forum.. i've answered this many times.

    .... the US office's main reason for not bringing it in at this time or in the past has been because of a "flimsy touchpad".
     
  15. dead_red_eyes

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    HIYA Frank! Nice too see you coming here, on your own time ... I'm sure you've got to be busy, but I really do think it's cool that you do come around, WHEN OTHER ****TY COMPANIES WONT.

    I personally would like to see laptops that are more customizeable to fit the needs of the diverse consumer.

    ====FLARE====
    How about start with offering cases with different colors. like an all black, or all white option. you'd make some cash for sure. i've been trying to find all white windows based laptop for a while now. only 2 i've seen are the asusW5A/W5Ae and the MSI MS-1013.
    ====GAMING LAPTOP RESOLUTIONS====
    I'm also tired of seeling laptops that are classified as gamer friendly, when they have GPU's that can't even run IN GAME at the resolution of the screen (WSXGA+, ect ...) And I'm talking BF2, WOW, Splinter Cell CT, Far Cry. There's still not much support for Widescreen Games. Sure some of them have it, but they have to clip, or the POV gets screwed up, screen gets stretched. I'd like to see more gaming models that have a "sane" resolution, and a great gpu running them. i really wish that gpus were more customizeable.

    Asus is looking good, mainly cause of one thing, you can CUSTOMIZE it. I'm tired of seeing these companies that just have "pre-built" models on-line. I really do think you guys have something with your notebooks, cause you can trick them out. Whether it's for music, gaming, programming, you can throw it almost anything you want to get the job done. I like the barebones Idea, I wish more companies do it .. so far I know of ASUS and MSI .. mainly for their reliability. at least that's what i hear.

    One more thing, what is this INTEL-NVIDIA , AMD-ATI thing all about? Is this how ALL laptops are?
     
  16. A-Lit

    A-Lit Notebook Consultant

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    It's nice to see a living-breathing rep from any computer company take notice in a forum. Yet another moment that I'm impressed by the quality here :D Glad I stumbled upon this site!

    I've sworn by Asus parts for my desktop builds for the past five or so years, and I'll continue to stand by them. In regards to some of the talk on this thread, I personally don't see why Asus should feel any pressure to advertise or direct their sales to a retail market. I learned about Asus through word of mouth, and their product quality has spoken volumes, solidifying their position in my mind.

    In terms of laptops, this is my first time considering purchasing one, and Asus is certainly on my mind. If the quality of their notebook computers is on par with their other components, I am positive I'll be a happy customer.

    Regards,

    Adam
     
  17. ASG

    ASG Notebook Geek

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    I mentioned this in another thread but - DOCKING STATION PLEASE!!!!

    With notebooks sales surpassing desktops and many of us replacing desktops with a notebook - it is critical to have a decent docking option - WITH VIDEO that works and does not cripple onboard video please

    a universal option across models is fine - doesn't need to be a specific model for every model - but we really need the option if we're gonna use notebooks as desktop replacements
     
  18. jonruse

    jonruse Newbie

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    i have recently installed new hard drive on my asus l5df laptop(old one un-repairable).only problem is there are no drivers listed for this model on their website.I have installed drivers for the model l5d,all works except networking.anyone any ideas...i have emailed asus but nothing came back cheers jon
     
  19. TheUndertow

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    I'm in the boat of not being familiar with Asus prior to finding this site. I've been doing some exhaustive research for a notebook that I'm looking to buy any time now. I'm just having a hard time deciding whether to jump for Dell's "bang for the buck", go with an Acer Ferrari which I can find for about $1,800 now or find another vendor that will fill the void in my heart that neither Dell or Acer can seem to do right now.

    What differentiates Asus from the competition? I'll use it some for gaming, and also for writing (keyboard feel, quality...etc. is key). Thanks.
     
  20. c9tech

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    Well to begin, ASUS picks only top components when build their own brand of notebook [ASUS Ensemble] or their barebones [built on ASUS].
    They are also the only notebook manufacturer that does the whole electronic manufacturing process from ground up.
    Others just take someone's else's bum work and put their name on it. :D
    I'm sure other brands are fine, but nothing compares to the look, feel, and performance of an ASUS.
    You came to right place and should now be well on your way to making the right choice.

    :asus:

    /PSA
     
  21. TheUndertow

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    ^ You may very well be right. Any suggestions for a lappy around $1,800 or so w/ a dedicated 128MB video card? I've heard of the w3j, but have no idea what it looks like..etc.

    I can't believe a model like the W3V retails for that w/ just 64MB of vid. memory
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    My comparison point right now is a Dell 1705 that I can build w/ 256MB 7800 w/ 1GB RAM 667mhz, 2.0Ghz Duo Core and high end screen for about $1,800 after EPP and discounts. Bang for the buck is amazing from what I've seen elsewhere. I'm just not a big fan of the rig as a whole, or the size frankly.

    I'm wishing I could find a good deal on a nice Asus for some gaming and writing.
     
  22. c9tech

    c9tech Notebook Evangelist

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    What sort of gaming?
    The W3J will have all the power you'll ever need with the ATI X1600 inside.
    For a visual, just check out the photos the current W3V.
    It's the same chasis used for the W3J.

    Bang for buck is ASUS.
    They sacrafice nothing and their prices are still fair.
    You get what you pay for. :D
     
  23. TheUndertow

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    Nothing major - prob. Age of Empires 3 - that sort of thing...I leave the heavy lifting to the 360.

    That's partially why I'm thinking Asus - lighter weight and better build (amongst other things I gather) - prob. better for writing/mobility than the jumbo Dell.

    You summed it up nicely on the last line though :cool:
     
  24. c9tech

    c9tech Notebook Evangelist

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    Well you don't need an X1600 for that...
    Don't remember what the GPU requirements are for AOE3, so you may want to consider those [and those of other games you would play] when purchasing your next notebook.
    Other than that it's a personal call.
    Choose something that fits your lifestyle and demands [portability/screen size, weight/performance, etc...]
     
  25. TheUndertow

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    ^ Thanks man...just don't want to not get enough today and be sorry tomorrow.
     
  26. ASG

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    unfortunately that isn't quite exactly true ;)

    they sacrifice docking station ability which rules out most business users and many who want to use an Asus as a desktop replacement

    more importantly - critically at this point - they chose to cripple their new products by supporting a standard that does not effectively exist as of today as there are virtually no products that support it - by replacing the PC Card slot with an ExpressCard slot

    it is not only Asus, Mac made the same stupid decision, but other manufacturers took the time to understand the real world situation and accomodate the customers needs rather than simply ignoring them

    Sony and others include both a PC Card and an ExpressCard slot - even in their SZ model - less than an inch thick and 3.7 lbs - if they can do it there is no excuse for Asus and others not to

    the ExpressCard standard was announced in 2003 - since then - over the subsequent 2 years there has been little effort by any manufacturer to support it - there are only a handful of available cards that support the slot - again after 2+ years - there are no cards in most categories that support ExpressCard - most importantly Wireless WAN (cellular) products

    and there is effectively no available alternative to use existing PC Cards WWAN products in these computers - even the bulky kludges are not shipping for months - and having to drag along an external box and cable to make a nearly $2000 thin and light notebook usable is simply silly

    Asus has a reputation for high end design - which is what attracted me in first place - but technology for tech sake - with no consideration of common sense or the real world - renders all their other great efforts largely worthless

    at present all indications are it will be likely 3rd qtr at least before there are any significant products for the ExpressCared - and that is pure guessing since there isn't even so much as a press release on "vaporware" products in any of the media - main stream manufacturers say they are "investigating" of looking into the standard and evaluating their options and positions

    this info was readily available, as was the history of adoption - both the ExpressCard, but also the prior iterations of PC Cards - and yet many of the notebook manufacturers - including Asus - chose to ignore the fact that including only the ExpressCard slot would effectively cripple their product for most of the coming year

    Dell, MacBook and others who are in similar situation are equally upset - and IMO rightfully so - WWAN is a core technology today - so impotant it is being implemented in internal formats on new systems - yet despite its importance - and that the typcial buyer of an Asus is also the same early adopter that is and has been using WWAN for some time - they ignored its importance

    the right decision was to include both slots - as with Sony and others - or for the time being stick with the PC Card, at least in the early builds

    if you can't tell I'm pretty frustarted by this ;) I did alot of research and choce the V6j - and then I waited and waited for it to be released - only by accident did I find out they did not support PC Card a day or so before shipping - and Justin graciously agreed to cancel my order

    the point is I did not want to do so - but had zero choice - I cannot live without WWAN

    I'd like a response from our Asus rep on this - and if they intend to address it - or care?
     
  27. Johnny9ball

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    Thank god I dont care about Docking stations or ExpressCard slot! Gimmie W3J now!
     
  28. TheUndertow

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    Does the W3J have a widescreen?
     
  29. BENDER

    BENDER EX-NBR member :'(

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    Yes, like the W3V
     
  30. TheUndertow

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    Got it - thx.
     
  31. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Frank will be around, but his job here isn't to be the 'Question Answering man', which I stupidly assumed so, so, thanks for all the questions and I hope they have been anwered :)
     
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