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    RM Clock Issues

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Theros123, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Hey all..

    I've undervolted my Asus G1s its running a bit cooler now. However, when I leave the power settings on the RM Clock one, I cannot change any of the "power settings." IE, like the brightness on battery or plugged in, nor any of the when to sleep, when to turn off hard drive options. Every time I adjust them and press apply, the next time after a hibernation or a shutdown the settings are reset.... This issue isn't critical to me, but can be annoying at times. I know RM Clock is supposed to be Beta as well, but does anyone have a fix?

    Thanks,
    Eric Huang
     
  2. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    RMClock may be conflicting with Asus's Power4Gear. I'm sure I figured this out a couple of years ago when I had a W3A.

    Try using Performance on Demand CPU settings using your new voltages but don't touch the operating system settings. This should let Power4Gear manage the CPU speed (and other power settings) while RMClock controls the voltages.

    John
     
  3. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Oh, forgot to say I uninstalled P4G since it would mess with my RMClock settings...
     
  4. Alias

    Alias Notebook Deity

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    Well, Support for the Santa Rosa platform from RMClock is still in beta stage so there are a lot of quirks in the software. Saw a couple of them on their forum.

    Sorry to go offtopic, but can you post some screenies of ur RMClock settings? Iv been playin around with the settings too but have yet to see any temperature changes.

    Like John mentioned, do u really need to remove Power4Gear when using RMClock?
     
  5. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Yes... if you don't P4G will continue to change the settings as per its coding... It got really annoying so I just deleted... There was no need for it. I was able to undervolt to 1.050V using the very helpful thread posted in the G1S resource thread. Read that first.
     
  6. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    you shoulnt use rmclock PROFILES on a santa rosa cpu because you are actually making it use more battery/hot when on idle. You see, santa rosa cpu clocks down to 8x / 100fsb = 800mhz @ 0.85V . When you use rmclock it will use 8x Voltage. Also like i said rmclock does not support santa rosa cpu and for that you cannot define 0.85V anyware for know.

    If you have a G1s you should only use rmclock to disable tm1 and 2 to get your performance back.
     
  7. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Well, I've managed to somehow get it to idle around 55-60 instead of 60-65 now... That's with settings some of the profiles including x11, and x6 to 1.050V. It also runs pretty stable, should I not be doing this?
     
  8. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I do not understand. Yes, it clocks down to 8X / .85V and RMClock will not be able to change that voltage because it is locked in the hardware; but for higher multipliers it WILL be able to undervolt; and that's where it helps with heat and battery life.

    Unfortunately the min multiplier voltage has been locked starting with the Intel Core Duos (Yonah).
     
  9. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    of course but for that you need to use a profile and doing that the min you will get is 6x / 200fsb = 1200mhz cpu !! that's my point.

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  10. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Er... I still don't quite understand it? Your saying that because were using the profiles that the CPU is downclocking? RMClock still says 2.2 on mine.... Although, I have relatively no idea what I'm talking about here.
     
  11. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    see my edited post, understand now ?
     
  12. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    So those profiles downclock the CPU? What if I only have the x6, x8, and x11 profiles selected? And even more odd is when I'm gaming I don't even notice the difference haha.... And why is it cooler then?
     
  13. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    because of the voltage / speed !! 800mhz @ 0.85V , not 1200 @ 0.937

    It's a compromisse here. Have a hotter cpu when idle , a louder fan and save 4 ou 5º when on full load, or have a quiet fan , a cool cpu when browsing around and have a hotter cpu when using it's power ;) Shure, when rmclock has santa rosa full support then we will talk again :)
     
  14. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Right, now I see. Too bad Santa Rosa support is bad.

    It is certainly not worth to have a hotter/more power hungry CPU on idle for the temperatures and power savings on high clocks. This is because the CPU will be almost all of the time idle.

    So if you have this incompatibility issue, then do NOT use RMClock, like adolfo says.
     
  15. Theros123

    Theros123 Web Designer & Developer

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    Hmmm... okay, well is there a way to do the cooler idle.... I don't mind the normal full load.
     
  16. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    The way to do that is to let Vista (or the OS assuming proper drivers are installed) speedstep on its own. Do not install RMClock NHC or something similar.

    The drawback is higher voltages on full load.
     
  17. adolfotregosa

    adolfotregosa Notebook Evangelist

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    WAIT !! If you have a G1S do install rmclock to disable tm1 and tm2 , just do not use profiles and you'll be allright
     
  18. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Oh, sorry, forgot about that :D

    God these ASUS bugs make our lives really complicated!!! :)