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    Recommend me a SSD.

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by exile550, Feb 15, 2010.

  1. exile550

    exile550 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, I just bought a UL80VT-A1. Could anyone recommend me a good SSD around 60-80gb for it. I don't want to pay too much. Thanks.
     
  2. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    Either the Intel 80GB G2, or a 60GB OCZ Vertex, OCZ Agility, Supertalent Masterdrive ME or G.Skill Falcon II.
     
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    Best deal right now is the 60gb Agility for $129 after rebate. But best SSD to get is the G2 Intels.
     
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    My advice is to wait. SSDs are going down in price, but they're still way too expensive. The only reason to get an SSD is if you're a huge computer geek and you want the latest and greatest--before the market has even decided if it's going to survive or not. Why wait? Because the prices, if this technology survives, will come down and become a lot more affordable.

    You can get a 1.5TB HDD for a cheaper price than a 60GB SSD? That's criminal.
     
  6. borkey

    borkey Notebook Geek

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    SSD's are expected to drop in price ar Q4 this year when flash memory shrinks again. It's possible that it'll also drop when the new controller kicks in some competition, but don't hold your breath.
     
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    exile550 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for your replies guys. I'll probably wait a year or two...
     
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    Lol a year or two, I like ;)
     
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    The tech will be much improved by then
     
  11. exile550

    exile550 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I'm thinking that I don't necessarily need to improve performance right now. I'm guessing upgrading to a ssd in the future will help my laptop to keep up as I normally keep my laptop a long time (I had my previous laptop for 8 years). Also, does anyone know if changing the hard drive voids the warranty?
     
  12. evensen007

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    Well you can try what I did. I taped 40 8 gig mini ssd cards together and then manufactured a sata interface for it in my garage. Pretty cheap and now I have a 320gig ssd for just the price of 40 8 gig ssd cards.
     
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    WOW. Show us a pic of the thing! As well, how does it perform?
     
  14. evensen007

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    Sure. Here's a pic.


    [​IMG]

    As to how well it performs? There's a fire dragon in the background, dude. A fire dragon...
     
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    LOL :D got me there
     
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  16. exile550

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    Really, you thought he was serious? lol. It was a good one though!
     
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    that newegg deal was g1, don't bother with it.

    intel g2 is where it is at
     
  18. Mandrake

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    You guys thought taping 40 8GB SSD cards was real? lol!
     
  19. rjbarker

    rjbarker Notebook Geek

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    1. Intel G2
    2. OCZ Vertex
    3. Corsair G2

    Any of those will not be dissapointing.....I'l be throwing either the 120 Vertex or 160 Intel in my Notebook.

    Question though re: Intel G2, I have one of these in my Desktop and Flashed the FW to the latest n greatest, TRIM Function working correctly, as well as Intel SSD Tool Box. Now, in order for TRIM to work, I also had to set my SATA Mode in my BIOS to AHCI instead of IDE, seems to me I didn't see this option in my G51 BIOS, which leads me to believe the Intel G2 TRIM is not actually functioning 100%....in these Notebooks.
     
  20. borkey

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    There should be a program that intel released for the G2s. I think they call it some type of toolbox?

    The program should have a manual trim command. See if that works.
     
  21. evensen007

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    What, you don't believe me? What about my picture?
     
  22. rjbarker

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    Nope...I have both the Intel G2 with latest FW and SSD Tool Box (Desktop in my Sig), thier is no such thing as Manual Trim Command, thier is SSD Optimizer that you can run manually, but not quite the same as TRIM "Garbage Disposal" running in the background.
     
  23. evensen007

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    You have 2 choices. Leave the microsoft sata driver controller installed that passes trim commands, or install the Intel sata storage controller that has not been confirmed to pass trim. Supposedly Intel's latest iastor drivers do pass trim. I can only confirm this from the command line, but don't know if Trim is working for sure.

    The problem with sticking with the MS drivers that DO pass trim, is that they are garbage and reduce the drive's performance by a significant margin. I would go with the Intel driver and just run the Intel toolbox once a week which is just a manual trim. We should know soon whether the Intel drivers really pass trim commands.
     
  24. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Man when is SSD just going to be plug & play lol. I thought Win 7 was supposed to take care of all that for you.
     
  25. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OCZ has firmware out now that pretty much requires no user level maintenance. OCZ Agility, $129, enough said.

    BTW, there is more than capacity to debate here. Sure, a 500GB HDD might be cheaper than a 60GB SSD. But the 60GB SSD is a heck of a lot faster.
     
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    Yeah, but you can always wait 2 seconds for a program to open, if it takes longer thats not a big deal. But you cant just boot up a program/game if you do not have room to install it.

    If your into a lot of games or dual booting OS's and things like that storage becomes a big deal fast. More so if your a media collector.

    Im using 250GB right now just for games :D and I do not even have them all installed yet. Granted some of them are there just for benchmarking for my review, but I do easily have 100GB of games I want to have installed so I can play even under normal use.

    I'll be good with a 160GB G2 Intel and my 500gb 2nd HDD but the price is still out of this world. Just not worth it for a speed boost in loading times.
     
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    borkey Notebook Geek

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    I think the OCZ also relies on the same AHCI setting for TRIM to work. The SSD Optimizer is what I was talking about. If that still manages to work on IDE mode, then what you do is just schedule it to run every week or so. Not as good as TRIM, but it does the job.

    Otherwise, you'll have to make do with Tony-Trimming.
     
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    Thanks folks.....let you guys know what a "Rocket" this little Notebok really can be in a few weeks... ;) I know my I7 Desktop in my Sig Boots up to Desktop in about 15 Sec.....
     
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    If you want the intel I found a pretty good deal for the 80gb G2.

    $220.00 no tax free ship

    Have to use that coupon code sunshine30 or what ever at the top of the page.
     
  30. Mandrake

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    Yes that was more convincing than taping 40 8GB SSD cards together. lol

    With an actual retail part number, nice. They should change the pic, it will scare some off.
     
  31. evensen007

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    The problem is that you still have to have a storage driver for Windows7 that passes trim commands TO that firmware. Microsoft's built in Windows 7 storage driver does, and possibly the new Intel storage driver. Not sure about any others yet.

    You sound like a man who hasn't experienced the instant gratification of an SSD yet. I said the same things, and am now scraping along with an Intel 80gb SSD because it is just that good. There is no going back once you go SSD.

    You're gonna love it!

    That is an awesome deal. Supposedly by the end of this year, the 160gb Intel will be around the price that the 80gb is, but we will see. they are talking about 1tb ssd drives next year.

    All new Intel chipset laptops run in AHCI mode. It is set that way by default. Some HP and Dell laptops let you manually set it to IDE or "legacy sata" mode, but not very often.
     
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    I am too logical to be swayed by instant gratification, I worry about real life numbers, specs, and prices.

    paying over 3x more for less than 1/5 of my hdd space is not logical to make a program boot 2 seconds faster. Even the largest boost of all is boot time and that does not matter because I am smart enough to turn on my laptop while I am still setting up the desk area like plugging in the power cable and my wireless mouse. By the time my but is in the chair and I am ready to use the machine its fully booted to desktop with the normal HDD.
     
  33. evensen007

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    I'm not ragging on you by any means, and to each their own. I was just giving my opinion on SSD. The boot and shutdown times are nice, but are the least of why I enjoy the ssd. The random seek times are out of control good and makes it feel like everything is running in resident memory.
     
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    That is the common mentality when it comes to SSDs. The warning is don't go to SSD because you will get used to it. Simple things like opening control panel will seem like it's taking forever when not on SSD.
     
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    Is that THE SSD drive to go for?

    I haven't yet got my laptop but might as well go for it as I am going to use the SSD anyway.
     
  36. evensen007

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    There are a few really good brands for SSD. Intel is one of them. If you have the dough, 160gb is the way to go. I saw a couple go for 400ish on ebay recently.
     
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    Things I like most about my SSD:

    1. Boot to Desktop in about 15 Sec, from power "on" to opening Apps
    2. Shut-down in about 7 Sec
    3. Opeing Apps, such as Outlook, Excel etc in a "Micro /sec"

    And the biggest convenience, when I'm monkeying around trying different GPU Drivers and have to "Re-Boot" several times throughout the process, this is "painful" Booting off of a standard HD (slow as hell), but lightening fast off my SSD!

    Originally Posted by ViciousXUSMC
    I am too logical to be swayed by instant gratification, I worry about real life numbers, specs, and prices.

    I can guarentee your not Booting up 2 Sec slower than an SSD......the Cost per Storage is high and its not for everyone, IF you can afford the cost, it is by far the most effective upgrade you can do to any Desktop or Notebook.
    As was said, once you do make the jump, you won't want to go back.....don't miss my Raptor and the sound of a "herd of elephants" in my Rig at all :)
     
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    Can anyone answer my question I posted earlier?
     
  40. evensen007

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    No, it absolutely does not.
     
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    That's a G2. The pic and the 34nm flash give it away.

    G2's are slightly faster and also support TRIM.
     
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    Thanks man.
     
  44. rjbarker

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    Just check the Part #
    Part #: SSDSA2MH080 G2C1

    Yes, thats the G2 OEM version that supports TRIM and Intel SSD Toolbox, same one that is in my Desktop.
     
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    Good to know, that's what I was thinking when I checked the part # too :D