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    Remember V6V heat complaints?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by The_R, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. The_R

    The_R Notebook Guru

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    Well if you remember, about a year ago there were quite alot of posts regarding the subject of heat and BIOS updates to the V6V. Well now the heat issue can be solved (if anybody thinks they have one). It can be done with the help of Notebook Hardware Control, which finally can allow you to control fan speeds and "kick-in" temperatures.

    In fact a lot of Asus models can be controlled by the software. Check it out if you haven't already done it. All you need to do is get hold of the ACPI file and your set. The www.pbus-167.com site will tell you how...
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    NHC has been around for quite a while, its nothing new. Most users have that or RMClock as their default power management undervolting program client.
     
  3. Jumper

    Jumper Notebook Deity

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    coriolis, that is true, but the ACPI controls are new in NHC 2.0. It can control at what temperature the fans kick on and how fast in software, something that wasn't possible in previous versions and that as far as I know RMClock can't do.

    One of the big ACPI developers has an Asus so the ACPI modules are particularly well developed for us.

    My 'active cooling' temperature on my Z33 is 45C by default, and sitting on a table my laptop rarely breaks 42C just doing word processing and web browsing, so my fan doesn't run at all 80% of the time anyway... 'tis completely silent.
     
  4. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    Any clue as to whether NHC works with the W3V/Z63A fan? If it can change the threshold temperature properly with the Z63A, I'll install it :)
     
  5. The_R

    The_R Notebook Guru

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    The ACPI file i'm using only include classes for: M2N, A6T, Z9201T, A7D, W1J, W2V, M6V, M7V and V6V.

    However, if you have some knowledge with programming, you can actually make your own class. Manni (the guy who develops NHC) gives a few pointers at the website.

    I find the program great as my V6V use to run 1200 rpm (=1001 BIOS) all the time which led to temps of about 58-70 degrees (pretty hot, especially as the metal chasis conducts the heat). Now i'm sitting at a pleasent 48 degrees, and have three different fan speeds depending on the temp.
     
  6. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    Aurora:
    I did get this to work with my Z63A for fan control (didn't play around with the rest), simply changing all the id's in the W3V file to read W3A as suggested by somebody in one of RogueMonk's early threads on this. I was able to control the fan speed and the threshold temps for turning it on, but I wasn't able to override the regular 42C start @ 2500 rpm and get it to go away. In the end, I had a low zone that ran @ 1700 and I also set up a mid-zone for a while that ran @ 2000 under 42, but this couldn't keep the temps under control for more than 20min on moderate use; the cpu temp pretty much always ends up @ 42 eventually and then the BIOS takes over and kicked the fan speed up to 2500.... grrr, teeny little air intakes by the HD. But, if the cpu temp managed to get back down under 42 then the fan speed would slow down in the mid profile (unlike the 801 BIOS I'm currently running; once the fan's on, it stays on forever), but it would tend to sometimes hover there and then I'd have the hi-lo-hi-lo fan cycling which drove me crazy. The ACPI rpm #s are also screwy with 2500 rpm being "130" in the ACPI controls.

    In the end, since the lower rpm with lower start temp didn't really keep the cpu from hitting 42, I didn't want to have the overhead of a ACPI control running in the background and potentially messing things up since the file wasn't technically written for the W3A if there didn't seem to me a real benefit in fan speed or temp control, and the 2500 rpm isn't really audible if there is even the slightest ambient noise, I decided it really wasn't worth it and I turned the ACPI all off.

    It was a fair bit of trial & error, and you have to do it when the machine is cool and the stock BIOS doesn't have the fan running, else you get a run error. The last settings I had used just had a single low zone, but I can get you the temps/speeds I used if you like.
     
  7. AuroraS

    AuroraS Notebook Virtuoso

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    Wow ClearSkies... sounds like you've been playing with this stuff quite a lot. Sounds like NHC doesn't fully support it... so I won't install it. Hopefully in the future it'll be fully supported.
     
  8. 4ndr3

    4ndr3 Notebook Geek

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    hummm this is very very interesting... But how can I download/use the class for my v6v? Do i have to compile the class? The_R can u share your class supporting M2N, A6T, Z9201T, A7D, W1J, W2V, M6V, M7V and V6V?


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    lol sorry I found it. This is great! I can control almost all of stuff of my v6, cool!!
    thx
     
  9. kavron

    kavron Newbie

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    The_R:

    What do you mean with: "All you need to do is get hold of the ACPI file and your set."?
     
  10. ez2remember

    ez2remember Notebook Evangelist

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    Link & compatibility: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=83295
    The ACPI file needs to be placed in ...Program Files\Notebook Hardware Control\acpi

    My fan rpm looks strange though, it shows 123*rpm, 168*rpm, 217*rpm for low, medium and high respectively. I think the * suppose to represent a number e.g. such as 0 = 1230rpm. This is more in line with what asus probe is reporting...
     

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