S96J, NHC, P4G and drivers

Im about to blow my top with this dual core and trying to control it. I couldn't get nhc to max out my cpu but p4g would. I went to a backup because of video card drivers (a whole nother long story) and now p4g wont control the cpu either.

Im looking around in the device manager and see things im not sure i should see, as far as drivers go. Why is my system using microsoft drivers from 2001 for ACPI multi processors?

Ive got a ricoh mmc host controler that i cant get drivers to work with.
Disk drives , batteries and all kinds of stuff with 2001 drivers. Should there be some updated stuff for all this?

Ive tried running thru all the drivers again on the cd, and i still cant get the cpu to stop running dynamic switching. This is just rediculas.

WHY the heck cant i get these programs to do what they are supposed to?

 

1. Dynamic Switching is officially called Intel Speed Step. To disable it you must do it in the BIOS (F2 at startup). It does no harm though, it only throttles down your CPU when it isn't being used.

2. If you install the drivers from the CD they are fine for everything, you should only consider updated drivers for the video card, sound card, and camera in addition to any hardware you might add.

 

Hi, thanks for taking the time to reply. I am on the verge of reinstalling of xp with nothing other than NHC to see if nhc can control the cpu speed that way.

I turned the speed step off in the bios and my cpu was running full speed, but then i couldnt get nhc to run the cpu in anything other than full speed. When i set nhc to run in dynamic, i expect the cpu to run in dynamic. and when i want to run max cpu for games or whatever, i expect it to run full speed.

right now, with speed step on, i can get nothing other than dynamic speeds in xp, no matter what settings i set in either nhc OR power4 gear. And with speed step off (in the bios, just to be clear) i get nothing but full speeds in xp no matter what settings i use in both nhc and power4 gear.

Something is not right. Right????

Speeds step says, in the bios, enable means the operating system controls the cpu. Something in xp is not letting nhc or power4 gear to over ride xp's control.

BTW, im confirming these cpu speeds with cpuz

 

biggest mistake ever. save yourself a headache, backup your license files (C:\windows\system32\wpa.dbl and wpa.bak) - to save yourself from having to reactivate, backup your other files you need, and reformat. Windows Restore is a POS IMHO.

Your BIOS change will disable throttling - if BIOS doesn't allow it, NHC will not be able to do it. so it makes sense that NHC couldn't let it happen, because your BIOS is saying that the processor is incapable of it.

You are right, you should be able to get full speeds. I have an S96J as well, it has a T7200 in it, running at 997.53 MHz (6x multiplier) and it throttles to 12x multi when I load an application. This is very strange behaviour - I had seen it before but I thought it was an error with CPU Z. Changing the Power scheme from "portable/laptop" to "always on" SHOULD make the CPU run at full speeds, but it only increases voltage. So it's running at higher voltage, but not higher multi? Anybody know why this is?
When running an intense application, the multi goes to 12 no matter what power scheme. So this isn't a huge deal, but it is kinda weird.

 

Welp, confirmed!!! Reinstalled fresh windows (formatted c , installed .net, wireless driver, NHC, the NHC patch and still didnt work normal (confirmed with cpuz again).

For some odd reason, my operating system (windows xp w/sp2) will not let anything other than itself control the dual core settings.

The only setting i can control is turning off intel speed step in the bios, which ONLY lets me jump the system up to running 1.66ghz. But then there is no dynamic switching.

ive only had this system for 2 months, and updated the bios a couple weeks ago, but i hadnt been fooling with the tweaking stuff until the last few days.

 

For backing up i use true image and it only takes a few minutes to create and restore the system. I dont use, and never will, system restore. Ive only had this system a couple months and have several backups i can go to.

dashboardy101, Im not sure i understand! Are you saying you have the same problem. As in, NHC will not let you set "max perfomance" and it will bump the cpu up to the max setting and stay there, until you change it to something else?

If you are having the same problem, atleast im not alone here

 

This is standard Dynamic Switch/Speedstep behavior, it automatically runs the freq/multiplier up and down depending on CPU load. Nothing is amiss here; it is normal.

Power Scheme settings have nothing to do with CPU freq speeds or multipliers.

 

Just to be clear. If anyone can clairify this for me. Running the s96j with notebook hardware control in xp, if i set NHC to max performance, my cpu reading should run 1.66ghz and stay there, until i set NHC to something else, like dynamic switching mode...............right? Once i change to something like dynamic switching, it should then run dynamicly (changes on the fly.......ALL BY ITSELF)...CORRECT?

 

Ok, now ive got another story (update) for ya, and this is the dumbest thing ive ever seen.

I CAN GET NHC AND P4G TO DO WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO, i just have to unplug the **** AC line !!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG, this is bull...

I had power4 gear running (nhc closed out-dead) and noticed in p4g i couldnt set anything power saving. So i yanked the plug and WAAAAAALLLLAAAA

It ran 1.66ghz on gaming mode and high performance mode and stayed there. I then closed p4g and restarted NHC, guess what.........Same thing.

WOW, amazing

 

Correct, and crystal. You've had quite an adventure with this thing, haven't you?

Be sure to check the AC and Battery pulldowns in CPU Speed tab again to confirm your settings. You can set the system to run differently depending on power source.

 

Uh I read thru this thread, and I'm not sure what the objective was? What's wrong with leaving speedstep on? It won't affect your performance for when you need it. P4G works fine for me in XP, throttling the CPU up and down in battery mode.

 

Um actually they can. They don't seem to with my current processor, but I had a Dell Inspiron 6000 Laptop prior to the S96J I now have. It had a Pentium M 760 @ 2.00 GHz. With CPUz and under "max battery" it ran at 800 MHz. solid - wouldn't throttle, would stay at 800 MHz. Just for reference the PM 760 does have speedstep. Then when setting it to "portable/laptop" it ran at 800 MHz, until an application was loaded. then it would throttle to 2000 MHz (multipliers would also kick in) and then finish when the app loaded - back to 800 MHz. When the setting was "always on" the voltage was always high, the multipliers were always maxed, and the cpu was always clocked 2000 MHz (well, 1995 MHz). So yes, power scheme settings can affect CPU frequency and multipliers. Just cause they don't on yours doesn't mean that past processors different power control couldn't be controlled by power schemes :yes:

 

The object has changed now. I only need NHC to perform as it should while on AC only now, as i just found out its working normaly when im on battery.

 

well here is some actualy proof if you don't believe - when i boot up in windows xp x64, it does it the way its supposed to... (task manager included to show that no processors were running)

 

Well cool, I learned something new today! I guess it's just that NHC won't ramp up the multiplier from the power scheme settings then.

 

Mine wont do that. Changing from partable to always on does nothing for me at all. I even tried turning on system restore, hybernate, and i dont know what else.

 

Yeah I'm not sure why, but on the same laptop in XP 32 bit it does not affect multi. But on my old laptop it did completely. it'd be like speedstep was off. and I found it improved performance in games, because it'd never go under full multipliers. Anyways thx for the rep btw.