Screen of w3v? help required

before i ask my question i must say that i'm thankful to this forum which has helped me to decide to buy my first laptop. I can confidently say that within the last 1 week since i have started my research and the first day i hit this website i have transformed from zero to 100 in laptop knowledge. keep up the good work guys.

Now I'm almost in the verge of buying an ASUS w3v. I'm completely satisfied with its specs over any other laptop for my need. The only thing i am unable to decide on is the screen display quality. Can anybody tell me how good is its display. Any possible comments will help bcoz the only other laptop which i will buy if i can't buy w3v wud be fujitsu N3510. I know that the display of fujitsu n3510 is given a rating of 10/10 by all. On that scale what wud be the rating of w3v's display? Please help.

ilovemymachine
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The US model of the W3v seems to be a lot better than what a few Europeans thought of the W3n/a..... so I'm not sure if it's a different screen afterall, but the model we got has a beautiful screen.

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Screen quality of the W3. The screen is bright, sharp, glossy and has a really great, dark black. The downside is that the technology used to give the dark black has the side-effect of introducing pretty narrow viewing angles (both horizontal and vertical).

Overall, I find it to be a good screen - and one of the nicest I've seen on a notebook computer. In overall appeal, I'd say it compares favourably with screens on Sony Vaios, for example.

 

What is the range of the vertical viewing angle before it starts to diminish? I'm concerned because I will primarily be using a laptop on a commuter train and the seat spacing is similar to that of an airplane. I may not be able to have it at the proper angle given the seat in front of me and the position of it on my lap.

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thanks guys.
I have seen screens of sony viao. it is very good. that makes me very happy about w3v. So now i have made my decision to buy a w3v confirmed.

 

<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Gooter

 

Great, thanks georgem! Sounds like it would work and still be usuable in cramped quarters.

Off topic question, does the touchpad have a texture feel to it or is it glossy smooth, almost like a glass surface (similar to Compaq v2000)?

 

.... well you always want to be looking square into the screen.... so pushing the screen back is probably something you'll do if you're a normal height.. it's one of the beauties of having a screen that's hinged and can go past 90 degrees.

Although I'm aware of some people who refuse to open their notebook past 90 degrees for some odd reason....

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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Gooter

 

I'ts not unthinkable that Asus may use two (or even three) differnent panels in the W3(N/V) depending on price and availability. Lots (if not all manufacturers) will do this from time to time. Could anyone with an W3 check to see if the screen is reporting DDC or EIDI information (Powerstrip or similar software can tell you this) that can identify the panel in their particular unit? It may give better insights into it's capabilities other than subjective judgement.

 

you have a copy of powerstrip?

Usually what happens is screens are bid out and everyone will produce the same spec'd panel.... but it doesn't mean they will all be identical.... Usuaully, the best screens are going to be what you find on the first couple production runs..... As demand grows, if the one company can't keep up with the production they need, then some panels will be pulled from another vendor. For the most part though, this only happens with Asus' units when something becomes super popular..... it happened with the M6, I know for a fact. But usually we see mostly the same screens on one model in the US, where in another country, they might be using another model screen in the same system.

This goes for all companies, not just Asus.... it's as common practice as it gets.

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Powerstrip can be found at http://www.entechtaiwan.net/util/ The monitor settings can be found on the tray menu 'Options' -> 'Monitor Settings'. Then check both EDID and DCC (Read Directly from Monitor) on the menu in the lower left.

Don't know if 'bid out' is the right term to use, though. AFAIK most LCDs are built on of-the-shelf panels from a very limited set of manufaturers. It's more like: "Hey, we're looking to buy *n* amount of product with approx *x* spec. What have you got for us?" That's how one will often be able to find the complete spec (conrtast ratio, response time, viewing angles and more) for the panels directly from the manufaturer if the notebook ODM haven't masked the information that can identify it. (As of now Asus isn't as approachable about spare parts manuals and such where this information would be spelled out explicitly as, say, Acer or Dell, but this might change if (when) their ensamble notebook customer base expands to the point where they have to deal with with local repair centres.) I've seen notebooks of the same make and model, produced only weeks apart from eachoter, side by side with noticably different monitors.

 

Edit: Nevermind. You edited in the correct name. You can delete this one.

BTW (another edit): Philips and LG are now one and the same (LG.Philps LCD) when it comes to LCD-panels.

 

Thanks....... I'll check it out.

Actually if you were to take your bezel off your screen Asus has two letter codes for their different panel makers........ like samsung, lg, phillips, hannstar (thanks [ ])

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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by ilovemymachine

 

that explains why lg and phillips are the two panels asus used for the M6bne and any other system with a 15.4" WXGA panel.

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Ok.. ran powerstrip and I honestly don't thin this helps at all.

W3v lcd panel:

This was read from the stored EDID... it wouldn't pull information directly from the monitor.

manufacturer: MS_
model id: MS_0000
serial number: 0(0000000)
date of manufacture: 1990, ISO week 9

Now... that 1990 date is obviously hitting me in the face... basically, is this information above worth anything at all? I can't think of a company who would use the letters "MS".

Anyone internationally want to run this on a W3a/n/v and see if you get something different?

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> Ok.. ran powerstrip and I honestly don't think this helps at all.

It helps a bit. It tells us that Asus is masking the DCC information. Either to intentionally hide the panel manufacturer or because they just haven't bothered implementing it. (This really isn't a problem for the functionality of a notebook, but non-DCC compliance can cause serious issues for a standalone monitor.) Short of disasembly and sticker-searching I guess that just leaves asking an Asus service engineer as the only option to find the complete specifications. As I said: I don't think Asus has spare parts manuals floating around in public (as they, unlike Acer and Dell for example, doesn't offer any on-site service options).

 

I can find out, and the spare parts book isn't something I can give out, but it is something I could check out.

If I'm not mistaken, fujitsu is making all of the glaretype displays. Back when Asus developed the ACE view (at the time there was nothing else like it)..... from my understanding Asus developed that with Fujitsu and they hold the rights to those type of screens...... asus, fujitsu, sony, hp's glaretype screens, although different models, may very well all be made by fujitsu.

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<blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by georgem

 

That translates so much better when it's not coming from me.... Thanks for the "logical" post....

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I don't see them on my W3V, at least I suppose so from your description.

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I've a question on the screen that I don't know how to quite put it..

on glossy screens from models such as HP Compaq, Averatec, etc one can see "diagonal textures" on the screen when looking at certain angles..
the Sony S series doesn't seem to have them. I was wondering what the case is on the gloss coating of the Asus and if it also has those diagonal textures or not.. often the lines are slanted like this ///

 

if you're looking at the pictures taken of the W3v by meigern, those textures you're seeing at extreme angles are just how a camera captures it....... not what you're eye is seeing.

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