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    Seagate 120gb / 5400rpm SATA drives finally instock for Z71v...

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by PROPortable, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. PROPortable

    PROPortable Company Representative

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    The time has finally come... Seagate is starting to roll out their SATA drives. On Friday we recieved a nice shipment of their 120gb/5400rpm SATA drives...... 60/80/100gb 7200rpm SATA and PATA should be following some time in the next month.

    For now, we are offering our first quality SATA drive in the Z71v. The Z71v is the only Asus model that an SATA drive will work in.... issues with PATA and SATA in the Z71v aside.... most people have requested them and a drive company that we trust has finally put them out.

    Here's a link to the Z71v page if anyone is interested:

    http://www.proportable.com/detail.aspx?ID=101
     
  2. RobotMule

    RobotMule Notebook Guru

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    I'd love to have this for my W3V.

    Any idea if Asus is ever going to make the SATA connector?

    Also, do you kow if this will generate more or less heat than the Hitachi 60gb?

    Thanks
     
  3. PROPortable

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    Still haven't seen this connector yet....... the one from the z71v doesn't work, already tried it today..........

    The Seagates create less heat tham the hitachi's.... i don't have a good number on the 120gb sata drive yet, but it should be around the same.
     
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    Dude!!!! Save Me One!
     
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    The SATA adapter from Z71V doesn't work? :*
     
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    No no.. the Z71v connector doesn't work in the W3v..... it's just a different form factor... this didn't relate to the Z71v at all really.....

    The SATA connector does work in the Z71v.. don't worry.
     
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    Dude!!! I'm so ready to get it.
     
  8. flaxx

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    had me worried there.

    And smilepak you seem awefully excited over just a hard drive. If you're so eager to have insane hard drive speed why don't you get yourself a hard drive bay for your z71v and then run your hard drives as RAID 0? It would be a software RAID (built into WindowsXP... another cool fairly unknown feature from microsoft... hell, there ought to be a ton of features for a 2gb program!) but they perform very close to the performance of a hardware RAID. Now imagine two 100gb 7200rpm SATA harddrives in RAID 0 :eek:
     
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    Good news! I think a lot of people have craved these drives for a long time. ;) Since the only ASUS system sporting a PATA -> SATA connector is the Z71v, I would like to know if there are any 120GB 5400rpm PATA drives on the horizon?

    Thanks!
     
  10. PROPortable

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    Yes, we'll have all the new pata drives within the next couple weeks as well...... The list includes:

    60 / 80 / 100 gb -7200rpm -- both sata and pata

    120gb - 5400rpm -- have the sata, waiting on the pata

    Hitachi is putting out a 120gb - 7200rpm sata and pata.... I'm sick of waiting for this one.

    Seagate is also supposed to put out a 160gb - 5400rpm sata and pata drive some time in the next few months... we'll see about that though.


    That's a list of all of the new drives... it's still going to be a while for them though.
     
  11. smilepak

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    I am waiting for the new one to come out so I could take this 7200RPM Hitachi and stick that into a USB2.0 case to make it my portable backup.

    I will wait for the Hitachi 120GB 7200 SATA. I think that would be a better deal for me. I like speed. Also, 120GB will do nicely for a laptop, since i've rarely using my desktop since i got the z71v. ehhe THe speed between the two is about the same according to SandraSoft.

    AMD XP3200 overclocked is my desktop now. I got a 200GB 7200RPM drive in there now. I was going to do SATA on the desktop, but all of the one available are fairly small in size last time I had check.
     
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    Unfortunately the Modular Bay on the Z71V only accepts a PATA hard drive, so RAID 0 is not really an option.
     
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    it's a software raid. doesn't matter.
     
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    This is your comment to which I was responding. You cannot have two SATA hard drives in the Z71V.
     
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    Oh, i see. My appologies. Too bad the second bay isn't SATA as well.
     
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    No problem flaxx.

    The other problem with the SATA drive in the Z71V is that it is not true SATA operation. It will only allow "compatibility" mode in the BIOS. "Enhanced" mode is not available.

    What they have done is developed a connector that will allow a SATA drive to be installed, but it only connects to the ATA channel, so you will find absolutely no difference in speed between a SATA drive of the same density and rotational speed as an ATA drive in this model. This is another of the "dirty little secrets" of the Z71V.
     
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    Hmm this is not good. *sigh* Z71V and their dirty little secret. BLAH!
    :asus:
     
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    Would it be the same on the W3V (and others) if Asus ever decides to make a SATA connector available? So it just allows an SATA drive to work as a PATA, with none of the benefits of SATA?
     
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    Until they are released and tested, we really won't know.
     
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    Isnt there a fujitsu SATA drive right now in the market?
     
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    This issue isn't the hard drive, it is that any SATA hard drive in the Z71V connects through an adapter to the ATA Channel. You can't activate the BIOS for true SATA operation. So, all you get is ATA speed.

    This has been confirmed by the head engineer at AsusUSA in Fremont "...therefore there will be no difference in speed between a SATA or ATA hard drive."
     
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    ... That connection that we all initially were to understand was an SATA channel.... is really ATA..... The notebook can use both ATA and SATA drives, but you've got a 100mb/s bandwidth instead of 150. The notebook was never really sold as an SATA notebook itself, but that it was compatible with them..... I guess when you look at it that way, it was there all a long I guess......
     
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    Hmm now that blows. It make me wonder if by putting in the SATA drive will it resolve that issue with having the optical drive and HD on the same channel.

    All I really care about is that issue, not the speed cause SATA speed for me really isn't as important eheheh


    *sigh*
     
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    They both work on the same ATA channel. Using a SATA drive will not resolve that issue.
     
  27. flaxx

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    why is this an issue? you shouldn't be creating coasters when burning. and if speed is what you're after (for a transfers) and you need it all the time, you can always go for an external (usb2 or better yet, firewire) enclosure with an optical drive (that's what i have).
     
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    ouch. that is a dirty lil secret. I feel better now not springing for the Z71V....