http://www.thelaptopfund.com
for those who don't remember:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=34202
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Geared2play.com Company Representative
I vote we leave this post a stick and vote how many people contributed??
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I gave 20 bucks. Sorry for the loss people are dicks.
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Geared2play.com Company Representative
What? Dude why am i a dic? Just because i dont donate to every cause doesnt make me a dic? Pardon me for not considering a donate thread on a notebook forum right subject matter. There are better ways of going about getting a donation then asking for one in the forum. Never seen this before. Satch nothing personal but i dont know you from my not so next door neighbor.....Nothing personal. I wouldnt allow this as a mod. I am sorry, call me cheap or what have you but I am not a dic becuase of that. I may be one for many other reasons but the above doesn't.
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I think that was not aimed towards you Eddie, it was towards the theif?
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Geared2play.com Company Representative
OOhh...Ok...R u sure? I must have misinterptrrt... ooopsy. Hopefully everyone skips that.
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The website state that your laptop was stolen on Dec. 15th. Was it really the 15th? You first post was on the 14th that your laptop was stolen @ 10.18PM. I'm not 100% convince. XD
How about telling us which University and the name of the building. I'm pretty sure they every university named all their buildings. Maybe that's just in the US. Partial S/N would be great. I will click the donate button once i'm fully convinced ^_^ -
Donald@Paladin44 Retired
I agree with aphirat and eddie.
We get these kind of scam requests all the time. Sad, sad story, but absolutely no truth to it.
Unless satch can produce some real hard evidence, like a police report, and explain the inconsistency in the story, I have to conclude this is a scam and has no place on this forum. -
I'll post a photograph of the receipt and the police report.
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I'm sorry about your misfortune, but keep in mind that there are other people who had your experience with more expensive notebooks. And yes, at least one of them is a student.
Posting on the internet asking people to donate is not really the solution. We don't even know you personally yet you are asking us to donate. What have you done for us besides telling your story?
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Satch hasnt done anything wrong. I donated money i believed his story do i concider myself gullable no. If people want to donate they will hes not forcing anyone. Just to make everyone happy just put the police report and the receipt up. Hell i remember some years back some girl put a web page up saying she was dumb and racked up a 20,000 credit card bill and please donate to help. And people ended up giving over 20 grand to help her. No big deal if you dont want to give but dont bust the kids balls for asking if anyone wants to help. No need to be rude.
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Geared2play.com Company Representative
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Donald@Paladin44 Retired
I don't think anyone is being rude.
The fact is some of you don't have the perspective we do. As I said originally, we get these kind of sob story requests to help all the time, and 99.9% of them are scams. So to suggest that documentation be offered to prove the real loss is not being rude, it is being realistic.
In addition, I totally agree with Eddie. This is an inappropriate thing to do on a public forum. This is a personal loss due to carelessness. It is not a loss due to a natural disaster, or a loss caused by someone else's carelessness (like being hit by a drunk driver) for which I would have considerable sympathy. The loss is not necessarily inappropriate to post, but the request for donations most certainly is...and to elevate it to a sticky is absurd.
However having said that it is up to the origianl poster whether they want to beg on a public Forum, and the Moderator to determine whether the thread is appropriate as a sticky. However the Moderator making it a sticky does so at the risk of losing credibilty for the entire Forum, and it will encourage anyone else whose laptop is stolen to do the same thing, which is truly unfortunate. A little forethought should have prevented this.
Do you have any idea how many laptops are stolen every day? Get ready for a flood of threads similar to this, and Moderators, how are you going to answer those who post their sad story and ask you to make it a sticky? -
It might have been carelessness on satchs part. But thats like saying she dressed like a slut so she deserved to get raped. its still a loss no matter how you look at it. And if a PUBLIC forum is not the place to post something like this where would be a better place? I can understand some of your dissagree but this is a public forum why do you even care if he posts this here. Hes not bothering you.
Hey satch you might want to make a post in http://www.notebookforums.com/ as well.people lighten up alittle.
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Donald@Paladin44 Retired
SRD, I notice you didn't think about or respond to: "Do you have any idea how many laptops are stolen every day? Get ready for a flood of threads similar to this, and Moderators, how are you going to answer those who post their sad story and ask you to make it a sticky?"
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I dont care how many laptops are stolen everyday its irrelevent. And satch didnt ask for the sticky eddie brought it up. I understand what you are saying theres gonna be a flood of people doing the same thing but you guys are the ones that brought all the attention to this thread. Satch didnt start the debate. But this is a public notebook forum if you dont like the thread just ignore it. its just letters on a screen they wont hurt you i promise. I do understand your views i just dont see the big deal though. Whats wrong with helping a fellow forum member out. IF you start banning this whats next banning anytime someone says something bad about a brand or doesnt like service from one of the venders. I Dont even mind when the flame wars get out of hand and people get pissed and insult everyone makes for an interesting read
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PROPortable Company Representative
I agree that this would set a precedent we're not ready to handle. Too many laptops get stolen everyday and far too many more people call, email, etc with the same poor college kid senario. 80% of them could be true, but when it comes down to it, most of those kids have parents and their parents have homeowners insurance and this sort of theft from a dorm room should be covered........ any parent who lets their kid go away to college with expensive stuff would be dumb not to set up a rider on their insurance for this exact reason.
I've heard plenty of good stories in my time and plenty that are so pathetic they couldn't be made up....... but we've also helped out in situations like this in the past and as many times as we have a thankful person on the other end..... we've also gotten the "sucker, thanks for sending us a computer".... As Satch knows I contacted him about helping, but before we consider anything, we have to consider what this does to other trolls on the forum....... We offer a member discount to people who are legit memebers and help out on the forum..... most people understad we do that to help the people who are out there helping others and not just some random person who stumbles along the website....... If we help out or just period, he gets a lot of donations based on the little information he gave..... it'll start a trend by others who see how easy it was. We can't have that and especially not on this forum because it'll turn it into a circus. I mean, in the end.. if it's that easy... maybe instead of selling notebooks, I should say they were stolen and see if people will pay me for the story.
I do feel for Satch as I have taken his story as legit.......... there's just a lot to consider in this whole situation but I don't think it should be handled in the forum. We all know about it and I think from this point on it should just be removed and we can all still go ahead and help him out it we want....... but I think it may need to come off the forum entirely... but certainly it has to get "unstuck" ....asap. -
actually, i've never seen anyone do this before. maybe that's why it's gotten so much attention?
i payed for the laptop with my own money, justin. if you want to know why i didn't have insurance, i could post pictures of my parents income tax statements too, but... -
I think if it gets out of control them something should be done then you can ban it. But this is the first time on this forum so why not let it stay. I think all this talk is what would make it more common.
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Donald@Paladin44 Retired
SRD, when you allow it once, it makes it very difficult to cut the next guy off. How would YOU explain it to the next guy?
Please take a moment and think about this intelligently.
I too feel for satch, and I too believe it is legit now that he has posted valid documentation. However this is not the point. The point is that the request for contributions is totally inappropriate on the forum at all, much less elevating it to a sticky thread! -
and fyi, i was planning on becoming an active member, and joining in on the daily :noisyfan: threads.
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PROPortable Company Representative
Let me ask one question....... were you using a laptop lock at the time?
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his laptop was in the bag what would he lock it to?
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no lock.
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PROPortable Company Representative
My question was only asked because it goes to responsibility. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad when I hear about these things happening, but I to went to college and the first thing you learn is you lock up your computer even when it's in your room. To be out in a public lobby and to leave it unattended is downright stupid and I know that certainly doesn't make anyone feel better about this situation, but in the past I have been more more sympathetic towards those people who were understanding of the situation and did everything in their power to prevent something like this and had their laptop ripped off its lock, rather than it just being picked up and carried out so easily.
.... Basically, if it happened once and he is given a new laptop.... is there a real reason to learn from this accident? I'd be the first person to help out in this situation and probably the first to feel like an idiot when it gets stolen again.
... There are people who simply couldn't afford a laptop to begin with who are probably more deserving of the help... but again that's a individual thing and although we donate a system every year to someone who honestly couldn't afford one, they are probably the most grateful. -
Wanna donate me a system justin i dont mind. Deserving hmm not so sure i meet that one though
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PROPortable Company Representative
.... see, I didn't even do anything yet and even though you are joking, people who are paying outright for their system really should feel kinda bad. I mean, Sean had a call the other day from a member of the forum who just didn't want to waste his time making some posts and asked about an educational discounts for teachers..... he said we have a "student" discount but if you're a member of the forum you should try to make some posts and qualify for those discounts ... and the guy hung up on him...
... Not that I feel all that bad about someone who would rudely hang up as we're trying to help them......... but students need more help than teachers do and it's the adults that should help make up for those kids who are getting those student discounts....
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i think if justin saw my family's income, he'd would send more than a laptop!
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Dude. It is not about your income or your situation its about the subject and content. Many of us came here to this country without a dime to our names. I came here at age of 10 to brooklyn with a family of 4 with 180$ in our pockets of which i had stakes to 4$ becuase i earned it during our short stay in italy washing windows. Our extended family here gave us 2 weeks before they kick us out to find work and an appartment in 1990 when the economy sucked way worse then it does now. To this day I and my family are greatfull for what short stay and food they offered us and paid back every penny and more. You think anyone of us begged on the street corner? Shoot i could have made a fortune. Little blonde boy with blue eyes on a street corner in brooklyn beggin for money that knows 10 words in english (no, english, nintendo, coka cola, bubble gum, appartment and a few more)....Makes alot more then 3.50$ an hour which is what i got paid with my first job 2 months into our arrival walkin around the city putting stickers on payphones. I didnt have my hand out beggin for money. I found a job (not all by my self ofcourse) all at the same time that i was attending elementary school. At age 18 which is i am guessing your age now I did things for money that make you seem like an angel now but at no time did i have my hand out without giving something back. Even had "we work for tips" written in big black marker on my parking systems jacket. So yes i accepted hand outs but I worked for them. People feel bad for bums becuase they are socially and mentally retarded most of the time so they give them money. You are neither socially nor mentally retarded, why are you begging. I may be a foreigner in this country but this comes as a shock to me that a healthy young productive male can do this with a clear mind. You can call me anal or uptite or what have you. I am pretty loose and sometimes a loudmouth but i am sorry i just dont get this. Ask for advice here how to make your money back. Ask for people to send you old junk so you can pawn it on ebay i dunno but this is begging nothing more.....
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where did i say i don't have a job?
now you're just assuming things. i have other expenses, like tuition and food. being a full time student doesn't leave many hours per week for working. wanna know i payed for that laptop? an entire summer of work, and penny pinching.
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Geared2play.com Company Representative
I think you completely missed the gist there...
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Could a higher authority in this forum just delete this thread already? He pretty much encourage other people who got their laptop stolen to do the same. Who knows whether or not the person is a scammer or not. I rather not found out.
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Off topic but eddie just curious where are you from?
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If i might add, this is life, deal with it. Many people got their stuff stolen, it's not just you. If you keep asking for money for every big items that you have got stolen, then you won't learn anything and repeat the same mistake. I know it sucks to have your laptop stolen, but as i had same before this is life, deal with it. get yourself some computer that cost less than $1000 and don't play any games on it until you save up money or buy second hand laptop.
Where you might get the $1000. Well get a part time job or take a loan and SAVE!! Most American today don't save their money and spent it. cut back your spending like buying from a good clothing shop, and don't buying unnecessary things. Since eddie say he came to US with little money and work very hard to get to where he is now today, i repect him but people like eddie are very rare in today's young society.
eddie: you could post it on your site that let people donate money to help those people who can't pay for a laptop. To determine if they need the computer or not, well its kind of hard. I don't really know how you are going to do that without knowing them personally. -
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Just had to chime in and say that I agree with many here who don't want this post up... I too had my 1 week old Fujitsu stolen 2 months ago and while it sucks, I consider a lesson learned, a crappy dice roll, but an opportunity to rethink my purchase and save up for an Asus!
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I'm closing this thread. Many laptops are stolen and it's the owners responsibility to have home owners/renters insurance or take care of it in the proper manner with the various anti-theft devices out there or just being highly aware of your surroundings. This is a bad precedent to set asking for money this way in the forums, we've had problems with scammers in the past and if we allow this then we don't have grounds for disallowing the next similar type of thing -- while this claim may or may not be truthful we can't allow this and then disallow the next one that comes around that may be a scam. Thread closed, please no more of this again.
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