Some more robson (ITM) test results with asus g2s-a1

With Robson:
PCmark-5676
CPU-5235
Ram-4395
Graphics-5511
HDD-5642

XP startup-14.131mb/s
application loading-8.018mb/s
general Usage-8.953mb/s
Virus scan-56.096mb/s
File Write-41.356mb/s

Without Robson:
PCmark-5475
CPU-5235
Ram-4411
Graphics-5526
HDD-4308

XP startup-8.782mb/s
application loading-5.841mb/s
general Usage-5.117mb/s
Virus scan-55.906mb/s
File Write-41.632mb/s

 

Huh, it is all over the place. Up and down.

Anywayz, thanks Geared. Nice info.

 

Thank you for the test results.
the numbers looks good for robson, I for one is looking forward to use it.

Am I right in thinking you can only have one readyboost/readydrive device under
vista?

JC

 

The numbers are exactly where they should be. They make perfect sense to me. where are you lost exactly?
I had to enable ready drive and readyboost from the itm interface for robson to work. i dont know why that is. robson is part of ready drive not readyboost. needless to say it does work as promised.

 

They are exactly where they should be, I was just surprised that it took the graphics down and the RAM down.

EDIT:
P.S. The "Huh" was more of a "oh that is interesting" huh not an "Oh man I have no idea what that means" huh

 

Hey Geared, can you take the robson's out and then run the test with a 4GB Corsair Voyager GT and see if it makes any difference? Obviously the boot times will be slower without readydrive, but I wonder if using an outside USB stick would be just as good for ReadyBoost.

Then, can you do the same thing but substitute a hybrid drive in (also without the robson's) and see if ReadyDrive is better with the hybrid instead of robson's?

Basically I'm looking for a comparison of outside USB only vs Robson's, Hybrid Drive vs Robson's, a system without any of the 3, and then a combination of all 3.

 

If you are confused about the scores. all they mean is that nothing changes besides the hdd scores. the rest of the scores have atleast a 3% margin of error, cpu, ram, and graphics flucuate with or without robson by as much as 100 points even more. hdd is the only thing that remained more or less steady through out all the test.
sorry i have no compatible flash drives here.

 

Ahh, your right, I always forget about the error margin. THANKS!!

 

Its great to actually see some benchmarks from Robson.

Where are the mb/s scores measured? I thought SATA drives were rated at 1.5Gb/s to 3.0Gb/s. How does a 60% greater throughput on XP starting translate to real world boot times?

 

But it should be +-3% but with the Turbo Memory so far all the scores you posted for CPU, RAM and GPU all have been constantly minus a few points and never higher.

But you are right only the HDD score is a big enough change to maybe have a noticable differance.

3.0gbit/s is the maximum the port can handle. Hard disks are mush slower. I think laptop harddisks have a maximum of about 60MB/s for now.

 

It is silly to get into an argument about this technology, because both sides tend to be stubborn. Instead of restating all of the facts concerning the increased HDD scores and why people still say Robson is worthless, I am going to give all potential buyers some advice. First, as a summary, read the wikipedia article on Robson, then look up any terms you don't understand. Then read the sources on the page. After that you will have more than enough background knowledge to read the reviews from Anandtech, Tom's Hardware and other reputable critics, as well as read the complaints from Sony and Toshiba (who have come out publicly against the use of the technology). If you still think that these benchmarks are valid then go ahead and invest.
That is all I have to say about Robson any more until something new develops in Windows, or until Geared wants to supply multiple test scores along with a video of a Robson-enhanced system booting more quickly than one without it by more than like 5 seconds.

 

"because both sides tend to be stubborn"

Do you really think so?

 

Hey, can u tell me how can i turn on or update the drivers so the Robson(ITM)
can work like Gear's G2S works?
so it really worth 40 bucks huh
thx =)

 

I'm not about to change my position until I see evidence to the contrary =P. You can't prove a negative, that is why the burden of proof is on Eddie, who is arguing for the positive.

 

I have no burden of proof any more then someone who posts 3dmark scores. I dont care what toms or cnet has to say, their reviews have prooven over the years unreliable at best in particular with their notebook reviews. the same company futuremark makes 3dmark as they do make pc mark. There is absolutely no difference in scores other then hdd scores. 11 points diff in graphics is less then .01% margin of error. Sony and Hp are both wrong if anyone here trusts 3dmark scores then they should trust pcmark scores. they speak for them selves. for 40$ robsin is worth every penny becuase it increases your general hdd usage by over 50% and boot times by 100% according to pcmark. I will buy that any day for 40$. no ammount of ram or cpu upgrade will not get you those results.

Alex. Dont buy it. Your boot times and general harddrive usage will be slower on a good day then anyone else with a robson. the technology does work. End of story. There is no negative. There is only a positive. if the technology was free it would even be more positive.
FYI. the reason why reviewers like cnet or whoever done it before me couldnt figure it out is becuase
1. they didnt try pcmark
2. they probably didnt even turn it on. the driver is fairly picky. it has to be restarted 3 times before it works and turned on twice.
3. they are not me. If ever an asus mod was invented in the last 4 years it was done by btotech. that includes everything from bluetooth mods, to lcd mods, battery mods, repair mods and tons of other little things that are not even worth mentioning.
The burden of proof is really on everyone else except me. I have nothing to proove. people ask me how to do it when everyone else says it cant be done. Now that you know this. Maybee you will try robson your self

 

Since it seems I have to clarify, let me make one last post, and if you don't get it then...then whatever. I don't give a flying *@#$ about futuremark scores of any kind, I don't care about Hard Drive read time scores. I want to see real life performance, not "lab data" as you call it. Give me a boot time in seconds and give me a video showing that. I won't trust anything barring those two things, produced by you. If you post it hold up some sign with Geared2Play on it or whatever, so that I know it isn't that silly Intel tech demo. Thanks.

 

You ever stop and think that boot times on a system that already boots in under 30 sec will not benefit from robson? you must have missed the obvious. robson provides a huge benefit to a system that takes 2 minutes to boot. once the post sequence is over both the test units i used thus far are booted in under 15 sec. read my reply above again. your acting like i am borg ship trying to take over the enterprise. the technology works. if you belive 3dmark scores (and i know you do) then believe pcmark

 

First you have to have the robson module in. then you have to download the itm driver. then you have to turn on the readyboost and ready drive check box. let it restart. turn the checkboxes on again. let it restart. check the boxes again if needed and let it restart. after a few times of doing the same it will work like it should. everytime you disable robson you have to repeat the 3 stage process over and over. Like i said it works but its not perfect/.

 

Resistance is futi..err nm...carry on

 

eddie,
thanks for your answers on your chat.

if anyone didn't notice... bto has a free 7200 rpm upgrade for the G1S this coming sunday....wooopiee!!!

i don't need the extra 60 gb, i'll take the speed boost.

 

Nice!!!! we only had a few to spare. Are you trying to put us out of biz? I am sure this thread will be burried in a few hours. well get yours early because once they are gone i will remove the red text

 

Just curious Eddie, why are you trying to push your results so hard? We had an entire thread on Robson earlier and now you start another thread saying the exact same thing with nothing new to offer. Major companies such as Sony and HP are going against. If you search the threads here, how many actually find Robson useful, and how many are having problems getting drivers to work or BSOD? It seems you're the only one has seen benefits from Robson yet you won't share all of your data with out. So, back to my question, why do you try to push this technology so badly?

 

uuuuuuuh
This threwad is about g2s-a1 results. Why have a review of every product why not just make one for all?
Who made hp and sony kings? last i checked neither company makes any of their own laptops. last i heard microsoft and intel were the kingst of this industry who also happen to be the same people that stand behind the technology along side little old me. Cant blame me for picking the bigger more powerfull side. Its only logical. I have nothing else to share. what you see is what io have to share. Everything i ever shared was always on this forum.
Just wondering why is that you and alex seem to think this technology is not worth a dime. Read too many faulty reviews lately?

 

123456 - This thread is almost a month old. I don't understand. If you have a problem with Geared2play's posts on this, why are you resurrecting it?

 

I didn't notice it was a month old. We had a discussion about this in another thread earlier. Then I saw this thread and thought it was started after that one.