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    The beginning of the end?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by Negz, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. Negz

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    Negz, Sep 7, 2008
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    This problem is nothing new and has been acknowledged by nVidia for a while now. Why do you seem surprised?
     
    blindpan, Sep 7, 2008
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    It's the problem with the lead soldering, not a big deal in my opinion but it's still defective anyway
     
    chen, Sep 7, 2008
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    Just need to punch the computer in the face a little. Kind of like a cramp.
     
    I♥RAM, Sep 7, 2008
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  5. Negz

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    Until now I haven't seen GPU's failing in abnormal numbers on NBR. A lot of people deny the problem/which cards are affected based on this fact.

    I was just wondering if the sudden failures are DEFINITELY due to this particular issue, and speculating on whether we can see a continuation of this trend.
     
    Negz, Sep 7, 2008
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    Perhaps you should take a gander at the Dell forums, particularly the XPS sub-forum. There's a HUGE thread of XPS M1330s experiencing GPU failure.
     
    Hybr1dz, Sep 7, 2008
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    What are you talking about? Go in almost every brands forum that comes with the nvidia cards, theres threads everyday about the problem.
     
    I♥RAM, Sep 7, 2008
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    i gotta agree with dodge ram here
     
    Red_Dragon, Sep 7, 2008
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    There is threads about the problem, but that's not what I mean. I'm after threads which have people reporting that their GPU has failed due to the problem.
     
    Negz, Sep 7, 2008
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    I was actually thinking the same thing after answering to one of those threads -- just before I opened this one.

    It may be that the nVidia fault is starting to show up. It also makes sense for it to show up first in the G1S notebooks, because they have the worst heat problems of all the ASUS notebooks (except perhaps some C90 configurations). So the heating up/cooling down cycles are more severe in the G1S.

    But yeah, we can't be sure. Since nVidia and ASUS aren't really saying anything clearly about this, all we have to go on is our paranoia... :)
     
    E.B.E., Sep 8, 2008
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    I'm glad someone else thought it too.

    That's what worries me, I'm thinking that my G1S is about to die on me as well. :(
     
    Negz, Sep 9, 2008
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    hey EBE, who do u change the title to be a custom one? i am a deity now, but i cant find the option
     
    plasma., Sep 9, 2008
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  13. E.B.E.

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    Quick links > User profile does it for me.
     
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    hey, i was over at hardforums and i came accross this. Dell is giving other 1 year warrenty for the people with nvidia gpu's

    http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archi...worldwide.aspx

    so it does seem dell is seeing high failure rate's as well. i wonder if nvidia will say "Hey, We made a mistake and we will fix it" or will they just sit and make money and not say anything about it.
     
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  15. E.B.E.

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    I was actually thinking a bit more about this situation some days ago. Let's assume that the situation really is as bad as The Inquirer and the Internet paranoia assumes... that a very large batch of nVidia GPUs are bad. A sufficiently large batch that if nVidia owns up to it, it would lead to bankruptcy.

    Now, what can nVidia do? Would they own up to the problem and die as a company, or use any legal and even borderline illegal means to avoid it, and survive? Certainly the latter. And before we get worked up about this and call them greedy liars, let's consider what the alternative would be. nVidia owns up to the problem, replaces all the faulty GPUs, and goes bankrupt. That leaves us with ATI. Monopoly. When has monopoly ever led to high-quality products and fair pricing and business strategies? (cough*Microsoft?*cough)

    Ok, so nVidia can't own up to the problem. Now, should they state this publicly? Say "Indeed, we have a huge batch of GPUs that are bad, but we can't really replace them because we'd go under; so, please, our customers, don't be upset, just bear the cost of the GPU and buy another one when it breaks down. We know you will understand and not be sour about this". Yeah, right. It would be as bad as if they'd gone under in the first place. The backlash to such a way of handling the situation would be huge...

    So, even if the problem really is bad, this obscurity and lack of clear information may actually be the best way of handling it...

    All this assuming of course that the problem really is major. Whereas it's still possible that it's a rumor blown out of proportion... we don't really know.
     
    E.B.E., Sep 9, 2008
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