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    To Battery Or Not To Battery?

    Discussion in 'Asus' started by stubbornswiss, May 11, 2010.

  1. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    Greetings!

    Running my G73JH 99% of the time plugged in, what is recommended, regarding the battery? Should I leave it in, and just unplug the unit every so often and run on battery till it discharges, and then plug it back in (and deal with the associated throttling demons), or should I just remove the battery altogether, and just put it back in for those times when I will be needing it?

    If I am going to remove the battery, should it be removed in a charged state or discharged state.

    Thanks, and apologies if this has been dealt with previously - I did a search, but didn't find what I was looking for.
     
  2. eugenes

    eugenes Notebook Evangelist

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    Charge or discharge the battery to 40% and store it in the fridge. Keeping the battery charged at 100% and high temperature will shorten its life.
     
  3. paperbag846

    paperbag846 Notebook Consultant

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    just a thought from my own experiences, although eugens is correct as far as the proper way to store a battery for maximum life...

    These LiIon batteries do not degrade so poorly when you leave them plugged in. More importantly, if you never unplug the laptop, why do you care about the battery life?

    Heres where I find the battery handy: power outages. You don't lose any work, and even with awful 20 minute battery life, you have enough time to save and properly shut down.

    And how frustrating would it be if you unplugged your laptop forgetting you've frozen your battery?
     
  4. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    Nowhere in my post did I say I "never" unplug my notebook.

    I'm actually asking for recommendations as to how best to care for the battery, so I really don't understand your question "why do you care about the battery life?".

    Thanks eugenes, and I'd appreciate anymore suggestions that are relevant to the topic, please.

    Thanks!
     
  5. paperbag846

    paperbag846 Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry, I did not mean to downplay your question, rather, I was pointing out that the benefit of doing this with your battery may not be worth the trouble. I think the fact that the battery acts as a backup far outweighs the fact that you will preserve what may work out to about 10 minutes of battery life a year by putting it in the fridge.

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    from battery university: Is lithium-ion the ideal battery?

    Lithium-ion is a low maintenance battery, an advantage that most other chemistries cannot claim. There is no memory and no scheduled cycling is required to prolong the battery's life.

    and

    Aging is a concern with most lithium-ion batteries and many manufacturers remain silent about this issue. Some capacity deterioration is noticeable after one year, whether the battery is in use or not.

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    Putting the battery in the fridge might have a minor effect, but if your battery life is only 2 ish hours, and you save 5% a year, that would be 10 minutes. Now think of all the work discharging to the proper amount, and storing the battery in the fridge, and having to plug the battery back in when it's time to go portable.

    Just food for thought.
     
  6. nfshp253

    nfshp253 Notebook Evangelist

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    What should the temperatures be in the fridge? My normal compartment is set to 1 degrees Celsius. Is that too cold?
     
  7. stubbornswiss

    stubbornswiss Notebook Consultant

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    Aha.........now that is some food I can chew on!

    Thank you..... much appreciated.
     
  8. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Also, if you do not leave the battery to warm up to room temperature before you use it, the battery discharge capacity will be significantly lower due to low internal resistance. Once it warms up, the discharge capability will return to normal. So if all you need the battery is for frequent random short trips, then putting the battery in a fridge will when not use will overall significantly lower the immediate battery run time.